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Hey @Shaun wording of the save draft prompt is confusing on @YakiHonne article mode: 

“Save your draft

Do you wish to publish your draft?

Save draft Cancel”

When I saw the word publish I had to re-read a few times to make sure I am not publishing an incomplete article. 
 Okay, am I wrong here about Bluesky? It  doesn't appear to solve shit. The woke scolds descended ... 
 Correct 
 Correct.

This didn’t stop sillycon valley pumping $23M of capital in. 
 This looks like the UK gulag @BenGWeeks 
 Interesting. Does UK run immigration ads on Bluesky? Seems like a great fit.

😅 
 Hello! I’m new here and haven’t a clue what I am doing and barely know what I am looking at. ... 
 Hello, I too am sorting out the same quandary.

Welcome 🤝 
 🤝 
 Why do you have to make my cry over my salad D?! lol seriously though this is awesome and a testa... 
 Have him search for the keyword

“Is broken” 

Any of those is a great start 

🥲 
 For anyone out there thinking I'm exercising tribal thinking when I criticize bluesky, stay tuned... 
 Freedom of association on display! 

Really enjoying the nip-05 timeline view put together by @Alex Gleason 🐍🚬 and team in Ditto.pub. 

It's a fresh timeline, and great to see a self-assembling/self-curating list of folk. Does not seem too difficult to implement from dev side either (i.e. only populate timeline with certain nip-05 domain). 


https://image.nostr.build/9a4db9e125f11334dbbb2186f02d428dbb7a1ac7da8a94af98da3fcda5b5a764.png

https://image.nostr.build/8f91bb79228ed980f3d327a24fd810d1a0c5e34759e0b0f2a1e24d1056710d2a.png

https://image.nostr.build/289d4ed7207e43610affcbad078748a55225abbe21f2a9981a1b2a53e225f2d8.png

https://image.nostr.build/67c2ed64d4559aed7c7400a3344312052baf27f6c83aef2a7476ecadc5266d80.png 
 Maybe.

I’d argue choice is good for the customer 
 I like it. Flock view 
 Someone should write a dunkpiece on bluesky and post it to hackernews 
 Its poor form, despite all the shortcomings of bluesky.

Would rather have real world examples of how nostr is awesome, and how the experience cannot and does not exist anywhere else. 
 A decentralized in name only protocol 🤣 
nostr:nevent1qqs2gcteft44n8eaxhg2c2yauasxvemczg36dyf8... 
 BS marketing is on fire. 

Why are they jumping from corporate lap onto another? 

BS marketers have earned their keep. 
 I dont see how it is not practically the same, under different owners 🤷‍♂️ 
 I just built what I wanted on #Nostr. 

I might not change the world, but I didn’t have to ask ... 
 🔥🔥 
 ‘Nostr is a better internet.’

‘Nostr builds a better society.’

‘Nostr leads to a bett... 
 This sounds like the farcaster - bluesky marketing department 😂 
 Share feedback for nostr landing page njump dot me with @dtonon nostr:note12c8dtnxzd3cllja9h0x8jns048nlpr04cufrqqd9ny6rmz6z78vqfhd0ec 
 I agree with this assessment 
 I like this direction. If its possible to keep it succinct, and explicitly say how nostr benefits solve this problem 💪 
 test 
 👀 
 I ask in the context of improving nostr landing pages. Some non-nostr apps sometimes do things well. Nostr devs should learn from things that work well. 
 > The existence of “sign up” and “log in” buttons

Is this good? Bad? Ugly?

Why, or why not? 
 What benefit do you receive from the Gab landing page? 
 > It’s bad because you won’t own anything on a site with signup/login.

> At sign up, you are just requesting to be recorded in some company's database.

Sure, you and I and many on nostr understand this. 

For the new to nostr normie login/signup is a standard pattern. 
 I agree the ownership of identity part is key. 

Scary: “crytographic public private keypairs”
Bit more normie friendly: “own your identity” 
 To truly #grownostr and onboard the next wave of users, we not only need the tools, but we need p... 
 @Derek Ross point of exercise is to identify what works well, and what doesnt.

For instance, per @Linda discovery “decentralized” keyword has been converted to snake oil by the VC fundsd crypto scammers. 

Perhaps nostr should avoid this marketing at the very least on landing pages to stay as far as possible away from the scammers, and the scam funding VCs. 
 HMW explain what a protocol is @elidy 
 @Linda from your customer discovery work what was the biggest turn off for people joining nostr? What should be the main selling point? 
 Tell me more about your view on the github link 
 1) Remove all instances of keyword “decentralization”. This is used by the VC funded crypto scammers at farcaster

2) “what is njump” - people feel that njump dot me is a virus website. There should be a clear explanation as one of first things seen if folk have the courage to open a njump link. E.g. “njump previews notes published on nostr” as a sub header

3) for the love of my eyes, please improve the contrast - light grey on white; grey on grey is difficult to see for me and others (I am not a boomer, and I struggle with low contrast designs across nostr and beyond). Ideally black font - white background

4) in discussion with @franzap I’ve come to appreciate the term own. “Own your identity”. “Take your friends with you” (your implies ownership of this relationship)

5) per convo with @Alex Gleason @Alex Gleason 🐍🚬 current optics are there is free speech on twitter. Yes nostr has this, unlike twitter. That said nostr positioning should focus on nostr strength on taking your identity, friends, content with you in *hundreds/thousands* of nostr apps. This is a unique experience. 




See @Linda findings nostr:note1mrdgqx93vc8nv465e853nvex5qvkzassrysq4effd68kaxdc8wys64f57c 
 Love this. @Ben Arc is nostr dot com yours? See suggestion from @Tim Bouma above 
 Really? If I see spam/low quality/ poorly executed or designed landing page I close a mobile page right away. 

@fiatjaf is the last desktop user remaining anyway, and he knows mobile rules over desktop 
 2) I perpetually receive the njump dot me looks like a virus link from non-nostr friends I have shared the njump link with. They are afraid to open the link

5) I dont see it explained as one of the first things in the screenshot you shared. If anything, the two visible paragraphs are a somewhat vague sounding problem statement. 

I am looking for the answer to “What is the benefit/benefits? “ in the first few lines. 
 Fair. I dont think I’ve ever shared stand-alone njump dot me link to non-nostr folk. Usually it is njump / neventID123etc. 
 ? 

My comment is not about light mode or dark mode (I use both). 

It’s about the poor contrast of light font text on a light background. 
 @dtonon is light/dark mode automatic for njump? That is, mode is selected per reader system time? 
 > he need for nostr can be viewed from different perspectives 

At this stage it may be more appealing when it looks like it’s made by a smaller number of people, what it actually is, with the wish to be supported to fight for decentralization. It’s a call to create & to build together, an invitation for a new way to communicate with the wide world

Hmm. An idea popped from @franny perspective



@dtonon @fiatjaf @Linda 

What if there were a website “nostr is for ______ “ where the home page cycles between apps, profile pictures of the developers, and a few users + quotes + PFPs (similar to the njump.me landing page intro animation) https://image.nostr.build/b4bc7800d48df515e04538bde0ef3aedcaa2713030d38ec344dabb535e72e3b5.png

View 1/n “Nostr is for freedom maximalists” 
Jb55 PFP creator of Damus app
Enthusiastic damus supporter #1 PFP + quote “I love zaps”



View 2/n “Nostr is for anarchists” Rabble PFP + Nos app Enthusiastic Nos supporter #1 PFP + quote “I love my moderated community”


View 3/n “Nostr is for musician” Mike PFP + Tunestr app + enthusiastic mysician “value for value on nostr lets me escape from the app” etc

As opposed to a vague and broad protocol description, there are now concrete examples of real apps from real devs solving problems for real customers. There is one nostr. There are many apps, devs, and customers. 

cc @elidy 
 ** lets me escape from the spotify musician hamster wheel/gulag 
 Yeah @dtonon def needs help with words 😂😘 
 Why 
 Just having a go at you 

🫂 
 Who knows a good libtertarian/bitcoiner ammo store to order from?
#asknostr 
 Any ammo store is libertarian 😃

I’ve heard of fenix ammo. Havent used them. 
 When was the last time a political party in opposition was banned in Germany? 
 If you don’t put water in your empty shampoo bottle and shake it to create another week’s wor... 
 Shampoo? 
 Appreciate your continuous non-ragequitting 
 What are the odds of a @Snowden pardon in the four year period starting 2025? 
 weekly notedeck check-in. i don't see a lot of visual changes, so i assume there's a lot of work ... 
 📝 
 The Guardian is excited to announce our arrival on the decentralized social media platform Nostr.... 
 Verify yourself 
 What is a simpler, and less scary “what is nostr” landing page?

A) nostr.com
B) nostr.org
C) other 👇

#asknostr 
 📝

Which page is less scary from the first thing you see when you load in your browser? 
 It’s a well designed landing page!

No where is “nostr” mentioned.

The “Bitcoin wallet” bit may scare off normies. 

https://image.nostr.build/789fd32640a8931b48c4cad8e22afcbe0c92c9fb6c357dd487e6b2033547a8da.png

To add context, I am seeking a neutral, protocol-like landing page not necessarily associated with a single company or project. 
 Appreciate the suggestion. Wikipedia is a psy-op on any important topic, and its layout is not aesthetic. 
 Do your best not to tell anyone how well you're doing off Bitcoin, even family 

Your cousin migh... 
 @frphank imagine you are measuring your nephew’s height. He is a healthy young lad visibly progressing well.

Your ruler uses cm or inches - whatever your preference is.

All of a sudden the international society of ruler central planners decree that today’s cm/inches are 40% smaller than yesterday’s cm/inches. 

Did your nephew grow 40% in height overnight? 

This is fiat central planning in a nutshell. All economic calculation is persistently and periodically rugged. 
 Good point. 

Can you buy things with Nvidia shares, real estate, or silver bars? 

All investments are converted to currency accepted locally prior to consumption. 
 Btw on @BTCMap.org you can see density of merchants who accept 
 Sure. Happy to talk about that. 

Before we do that do you agree all your investments must be converted to your local fiat currency (I presume you are not in @BitcoinJungle, Btc Ekasi, or a similar village/town)? 
 Has been last for two decades, at least.

Revealing this is what @Snowden traded his comfortable life in Hawaii for. 

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-urges-supreme-court-take-unconstitutional-nsa-surveillance-reverse-dangerous


@Whitney Webb discusses the border crisis being used as manufactured consent to institute the Palantir surveillance complex not only at the border, but across the country.