Interestingly, we started doing this in the US in a time when medical ethics weren't nearly as developed as they are now. I'd say we hardly had any at all by today's standards.

We should look at these issues ethically without making the issues political or even scientific. Even if a thing is scientifically proven to do more good than harm, that doesn't give one the right to disregard ethics and force that thing onto others. People must be able to choose in a free society.

Ethics is an issue that we should be considering first. I've failed at this too on this issue and others. 
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 Is there a specific reason you recommend considering this approach? I tend to prefer this approach as well, but there's a lot to keep up with. 

 It's also completely unnecessary. The benefits of fluoride for teeth come from its topical application to the teeth. We don't need every sip of water to have it. It's complete fucking junk science that people still defend as though it's scientific. Probably causes bone density issues too.  

 It has an impact when applied topically to the teeth. Like what happens when one brushes their damn teeth. It does not need to be in drinking water and we should not take the "it may not be unsafe but who really knows" approach when dumping shit into water. Of course the same can be said of other chemicals too, but there's no reason to just pile unnecessary things in when people can just brush their fucking teeth. 

 Then make rinses that they use and spit out. There is still no need to put it into everyone's water that goes into the rest of their bodies.  

 There is no set standard for fluoride dosing in water, so it isn't possible for you to even know whether it causes harm or not. This is one of the reasons many of the studies have been inconclusive. We should first explore alternatives before just dumping shit into water.  

 I'll just say this because a lot of the studies and things I've read on the topic are wildly conflicting and/or inconclusive: I will give you every one of your points and finish on one I think is conclusive: lack of informed consent. It is absolutely immoral and unethical to medicate people who have not been informed and consented to being medicated. The levels typically vary, and there are risks to consuming fluoride. There are risks to having it added, even if you think they are outweighed by benefits. That is not for you to decide for anyone else. It's wrong. End of story for me all else aside.  

 Medicating people without informed consent is unethical. Fluoride is not required to make water safe for human consumption and should not be added without informed consent. There are some risks associated with fluoride consumption for different people at different levels. That is a fact. The degree to which one accepts those risks vs benefits is up to the individual.

That said, there are worse things in most drinking water, which is why I remove almost everything and add minerals back. I floss, brush with fluoride, and use good mouth wash. I've done this for years and have had one cavity between two teeth that grew in such a way that they weren't getting flossed well in between. I have all 32 teeth and all are perfectly healthy. That's anecdotal, but the causal relationship between fluoridated water and dental health seems overblown to me. I also don't eat a lot of candy, soft drinks, etc.

I don't buy that there's no other way than to medicate people without informed consent. It's bullshit.

This is just one example of an issue that can apply to many areas. It's important to apply ethics universally. 

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 Four STRAIGHT sides of equal length. Otherwise, it wouldn't be distinguished from other quadrilaterals that have irregular sides.  

 Hahaha I never was great at geometry. I shouldn't be assuming  

 She is lost in that sauce! Not a noodle in sight.  

 I'm sure we wouldn't find ideals that have killed tens of millions of people in her bag of morals.  

 Fenix Ammunition, but I can't say they are strictly libertarian since it's a rather meaningless term.  

 Poor man's gorilla glass.  

 Nah, it wouldn't be Gorilla Glass without the screen cover though. It's the combo that makes it gorilla glass!  

 Or they just get value from his posts. Could be that.  

 A job would be a good start.  

 We are back at Proton being a no go.

No Proton Drive sync application for GNU/Linux makes Drive useless for me.

No notifications on Android without Google Play Services. Lame. Tuta works without it.

I gave it a go. It has gotten better since I started using it when it was new, but they still seem to be focused on creating new products without addressing some seemingly basic issues that you'd think would align with their alleged dedication to privacy and security (applications for GNU/Linux, Independent notifications on Android).

Overall, Tuta for email and calendar with Filen for cloud storage still seems to be a better fit for me.

I appreciate everyone's suggestions. Hopefully they make the services more complete before starting the next thing. 

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 Well, that's just a consequence of having a thing that anyone can use. It's something we have to get over until we can reign governments in. It will take time. 
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 Interesting. That's my setup so there must be something else at play then.  

 It's the 2FA. My account is setup with a hardware 2FA so it defaults to that. It didn't tell me that was the problem, but it works if I use a backup code or OTP. Lame, but it works. Thanks for the input!  

 It turns out that you have to know that 2FA is the need for GPS. Use anything other than hardware 2FA and it will login. Haven't tested notifications yet. 
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 I don't see any official F-droid release. I'm using the APK from their repo. Notifications don't work.  

 So am I. Screenshot is there. Notifications don't work either.  

 Notifications not working for me is a no go. I put them on silent but still want them. Lame as fuck for the price since Tuta does it. Thanks for sharing your experience though. Helps me figure out what is there for others 

 No. Tuta implemented their own notification service for privacy and Proton should too, or at least copy someone else's. They're being fucking lazy and it annoys me. It's their company though and I'm paying a different one that meets my needs. Everyone wins. I tried Proton again because I see it frequently recommended and it looks wonderful from a high level view. Unfortunately, almost of the services are half baked and useless for me as they are.  

 I actually love it when my wife is feminine and she doesn't hide that she likes my masculine energy. I think the thing a lot of people don't understand is that both start from within. It's energy, not always some external thing, although those can be expressions of the energy. And of course neither is strictly limited to a sex. I have some traditionally feminine traits in my work in healthcare. And sometimes I have to turn that off if someone is getting rowdy. People are way too serious now. Just be yourself when you feel like it is my attitude.  

 I fucking hate open mouth thumbnails. I won't click them.  

 He STILL doesn't fucking get it. Lol He will keep doing this Groundhog Day routine for years. 
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 The same thing is happening for me and my wife. Thankfully, we are much younger and as a result will be able to retire with dignity at a much younger age. Of course, at our age that really just means we can do the work we want to do without considering money. 

 Lol that would probably be worse for most people. Unless you're tying it to a basket of things that contains Bitcoin. I think anything more than 5% would probably kill a lot of people due to volatility. However, this could work decades from now, but I hope at that point we don't really need the concept of a dollar since we aren't using gold anymore.  

 They won't get a response other than my  premade text file with all the links to get a base understanding of Bitcoin. I don't waste my time on people who don't know the basics anymore. I don't need them to do anything. Take it or leave it. Swim or die.  

 I don't see it that way. I value my time and view that text file as the undergrad of Bitcoin. If they can't do that basic work, I'm not wasting my time on PhD level instruction. I'm certainly not wasting my time rehashing what has already been covered by many other people at great production expense. 

I'm in school right now, so forgive the academic analogy 😂 

 I've also accepted that many people simply will not make it. There will always be a 1%, even in a Bitcoin world.  

 Because 99% people will not do the work. Ever.  

 Good point, but price (even though some people pretend otherwise) does matter for the success of Bitcoin. We live in a fiat dominated world right now. One Bitcoin is not just one Bitcoin, and it will fail if it can't outpace inflation at the very least, and adoption will only accelerate with greater gains, which is what I want. I want to be alive when things get better. Going up and right is required for that to be true for everyone coming and staying. So you're both right.  

 Good point.  

 Nah, I won't regret it. I have a pile for having fun with. Just have to be a little less reckless with the fun pile so I can spread the love around 😂 

 Ha. I blew my load on the low. Super great problem to have.  

 What would your diet look like if you simply couldn't eat meat for some reason? Eggs and dairy are still options.  

 I don't think humans have directly consumed large amounts of grains for eons. Where are you getting that from?  

 I mean any meat at all. I've never been able to stomach it (taste, smell, texture, it disgusts me and always has). The best I've come up with is eggs, cheese, whey isolate, butter, and several green vegetables I like. So a majority fat/protein approach. Admittedly, I feel better when I eat mostly this diet, even without meats. I mix in krill oil and a few other supplements as well (Magnesium, potassium, salt, and a range of B Vitamins)

I'm basically just trying to make the best of my own shitty meatless situation and wondered how you'd approach it. Thanks!  

 In recent history, yes. Not really that long in our evolutionary history. 

 He basically did. There's not a whole lot you can do for someone like me. 😂 

 I use butter almost exclusively for cooking. May try tallow though. I've heard it's good 

 It isn't Obtainium's fault, but it can help to select "Verify Latest tag." This doesn't help with the repos that put multiple completely different apps in the releases though. But it works for something like Brave stable, Nightly, etc. 
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 I live in a super liberal city in one of the swing states. I grew up in the deep south and have found that I actually love the diverse culture in my purple state.

But I can confidently say that these are the people no one good (if anyone at all) actually wants to be with anyway. Cleaning the pool as far as I'm concerned.  

 I just send people a text file with links now. I don't have time to waste failing to convince people who don't understand fundamental economics, philosophy, technology, etc.

In the text file I tell them right off that the links are basically their under grad studies. Do it or don't, but I have no time for them until they do the self-study to get to a basic level of knowledge. And I can always tell who actually does the work by the questions they ask.  

 Fuck, I have had people help me test similar things but only so I could test my potential blindspots. I zapped them back though 😂 Now I feel like a grifter 

 Can Trump end the income tax? 

 Yeah, but the roads are smooth and dry lol And the tires don't last very long.  

 Hopefully you'll end up with a nice casket and plot.  

 Good for you, but some people don't have the same level of stability.  

 There is also value in more people being able to turn old mobile devices into nodes easily.  

 Eggs and cigars, to name a couple.  

 A castle with eggs and coffee.  

 It's fine if you don't try to flip back and forth on your off days. I'd be fine with it if I wasn't married.