And if you can't fully remove them, severely limit the access they have to you, your time, and your energy.


You need better people in your life then. That's one of the few things we get to choose as humans.


Or at least if I do spend I'm considering how that affects my future and how I can figure out ways to fund that spending without tapping my future. Cash flow now rather than steal from my future.


I seem to spend less as my net worth increases. Of course, spending less also increases net worth, but I think there's more to it.

It seems as though gaining wealth has made me a better steward of wealth as I grow. It's a sort of feedback loop.

I don't know what I'm trying to describe, but if you know, you know.

#Bitcoin changes everything.


Is it possible to clear messages from the inbox on #Primal? Is the issue that Nostr messages can't be deleted? If so, I'd still be okay with the client hiding them at least.


This is fucking bullshit, from start to finish.

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The United State Government is a disgusting criminal organization.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-12/crypto-mixer-convicted-of-money-laundering-on-bitcoin-fog


We need a SCOTUS ruling that protects financial privacy and those who provide it. This shit is out of control. I'm not even convinced that he ran the shit anyway. I would have said no as a juror, even without my Bitcoin bias. It's a joke.


Yep.


The federal 'justice' system in the U.S. is totally fucking corrupt and out of control.


What the fuck... The average person must be completely retarded if this was a jury of his actual peers.


About 15 years in the FOSS space has taught me that good UX/UI designers are sorely lacking compared to developers. We certainly need more devs, but my god when need far more designers to help them.


Computer Science. Boringly predictable lol


Maybe I'll work on this when I'm out of school next year. Sounds interesting.


It would be cool if we could make a micro Linux distro that just runs a node GUI and nothing else. I'm okay with my node being only a node.


It's pretty simple when I install it on Fedora. But you can't really have a GUI without a lot of overhead. Maybe they do it to avoid more expensive hardware requirements? But honestly, there are some pretty low spec desktops these days. So maybe that isn't the reason.


You could also just pay people.... There's no reason to jump straight to slavery being the only option. Such a bizarre statement.


Hire people.


Node sync? lol


Nostr isn't anywhere close to being as good for messaging in my experience. It isn't even a contest yet. I hope it gets to that level though.


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Why?

because I want the Richest Man in the World to have a Bottle of Peony Lane 🍷

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After months of work, I've discovered a way to build Chaumian Ecash mints on Lightning that don't hold the users' funds.

It's not clear to me yet whether this can actually be made useful or it's only theoretically possible but the sheer possibility makes me incredibly excited.


Interesting.


Cool. Can't wait.


Lame.


Actually, I am saying I'm right.


I'm not even saying I'm right...

But how the fuck can you look at your strategy that's been losing for over a century, look at mine that's been winning since inception (half my life), and proceed to tell me I'm wrong?

Hey, you do you. Enjoy that 401k honeypot. Enjoy that fiat lifestyle that keeps you in debt and broke.

I'll stick with my bad #Bitcoin strategy that protects my wealth and keeps making me wealthier.

Midwits are the fucking worst. HFSP, bro.


Karnage Karnage... You disappoint me. A UX/designer type too.


Of course, you could also have separate accounts, but my wife and I settled on just using the lists and cart properly.


You're the problem. lol Amazon has lists for this. I had this same issue with my wife. Carts are for shit you plan to buy. It makes no sense for me to have to remove all of the bookmarked crap so I can checkout, especially since that defeats the original intent of bookmarking the items.

So I just created a list called Wife Shit and she throws it on there instead of the cart. Funny that we had this exact same issue. 😂

In summary, your wife is using the cart correctly. You're the one with the terrible habit here.


Maybe, but to me it looks like cry babies plugging their ears and screaming. Besides, fees are dog shit cheap compared to what they'll be once people are actually using the network. The 'spam' they're complaining about (however one defines that on something like #Bitcoin) will be so miniscule in comparison.

Alas, node how you wish. I prefer to defend the open network for what it is. I don't want to go down the road of picking and choosing which transactions I think are spam. Plus, you're only screwing yourself on fee estimates as far as I can tell.


This is fucked. Ayn Rand was right.


lol

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CLOWNS.


For sure. This is the approach I take in life and it has served me very well.


NO FUCKS.

WE DON'T NEED THEIR RESPECT.


HAHAHAHAHA I knew what you meant but still laughed.


I don't give a fuck, but this note is still interesting to me from a psychology perspective.


I think the problem right now is that noncustodial lightning is simply a fucking pain. A lot of people are in denial about that. Honestly... Getting the custodial service at the expense of providing a fake DOB and email is the best middle ground solution I've seen thusfar. But I would love for noncustodial solutions to be easier to use.


I'm not saying you couldn't. Just giving what I think is the answer to the question. I don't think that's how a wallet app works. Primal is the wallet. I don't know why you'd use it if you wanted to use a different wallet.

If you mean making it possible to be zapped to a noncustodial wallet address then I agree. But you'd be using two apps rather than one unless they make the Primal one noncustodial, but we all (people who use them) know that's more complex.

I would also like to see the option though. Or at least a UI option to remove the tab for those who don't want to use the custodial wallet in Primal.


I think this is the price of using Strike. Probably some compliance requirement for custodians.


Replies on #Primal are weird and irritating. They're also slower lately. Would be cool to just copy X on this point.


Biden can tax deez nuts.


I suspect AI will eventually have more specialized processing like ASICs. Especially as we push it to be more brain-like and less computer-like. Just a side thought.


The actual answer is the same people who do now. The difference being that it's probably done better and cheaper without government involvement.


Degenerates.

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Just kidding. Staying proud and stacking sats.


Staying humble and stacking sats.


No texts from normies asking to buy #Bitcoin.

BUT, new type has emerged. The copeies.

Two copeies have already brought up Bitcoin and how it's a scam/shitty investment.

We're winning.


People do kill themselves, believe it or not. Not every bad thing that happens is due to a corporation. I'd actually expect it from government more than anything.


A man my wife works with told her Bitcoin was a shitty investment and that he was focusing on his 401k.

He just sold $500 worth he bought a couple of years ago.

The cope is going to get so much worse.

For the record, my wife has never mentioned Bitcoin. This was an organic interaction.

Not everyone is going to make it.


I think that's a reasonable risk considering one can have an offline backup AND it's still better than handing the key out like candy, assuming the service is trustworthy.


I like this idea. GrapheneOS does something similar with security practices. Really love it.


Or in this case you'd just be locked out if you mean a web service is down. I'm willing to sign with hardware, but a hottish wallet would probably be best for most. With, of course, an offline backup.


The same thing that always happens if you don't backup your key I suppose. But this is why I'd prefer a model similar to how hardware  wallets work. I just think one point of failure is safer in this context than having one key in a bunch of rando apps that may be malicious or incompetent.


It certainly isn't a good idea to just go around slapping your private key into anything asking for it. We will definitely be needing more protection and better security as time goes on.

This isn't what I want necessarily, but if it's trustworthy software, I'd consider this to be better than the current model most people are using (paste into whatever tool asks for it.)


Is Craig Wright Satoshi?

😂


Noted.


Seriously gorgeous cat. They always steal the show


Did you know that monopolies can only exist with government force?

A free market free from government coercion doesn't have monopolies, since anyone is free to compete.

Having no competitors would mean that one is providing a service or product that no one else is willing or able to provide.

This is yet another example of business people and those with wealth taking the heat for things government causes.

Government started lobbying by using force against businesses. Government protection and force is the only possible monopoly.

Rent seeking isn't bad if it's a service that others are demanding.

Monopoly capitalism isn't a real thing. Capitalism can't exist where government force is used economically. All economies currently are mixed.

Stop blaming capitalism and the wealthy people creating shit for you. Fraud is a crime. Being rich isn't and shouldn't be.

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No one died at work last night and #Bitcoin is up.

Life is good.


Probably just keep it simple and copy Google Docs lol Or LibreOffice Write, etc. Just simple and not Google.


MORNING, CAP'N.

STAY PROUD AND STACK SATS.


Personally, I see this as a correction. I'm guessing we will see ATH with inflation soon after the halving. Bitcoin is hard to predict, so I don't put anything into my own predictions. lol


Life is so much better since I got on a Bitcoin standard. I used to spend so much time trying to figure out how to recover from the theft, now Bitcoin takes care of it for me.


I want to destroy the current system AND be rich. That is why I am Bitcoin only. I won't apologize, nor will I be shamed by pseudointellectuals. I hope more Bitcoiners start standing up to this nonsense.


Who are you to say what everyone's mindset is? There's absolutely no reason one can't have both of these. It's nonsense.


Hahaha


Deducting theft from theft still leaves you with theft.


Why can't you do both?


Gm ☕ You have the power to make any tweet your last one before going #nostr only 💜🤙


I actually don't hate this lol


Not really. You can't make people stack sats unless you plan to put a gun to their head. All you can do is give them education. They have to choose to act on it.


But why did he have fuck you money? That's the root lesson.


You don't. They have to get themselves to do it.


#NostrOnly


I've already noticed this shift in myself. I'm already rich, the world just doesn't know it yet.


The media will put it on blast once the right people fill their bags with cheap sats.


Lol I'm not convinced any of them are even aware of the price increase.


You should make it your last one ever.


I haven't had anyone reach out.


I've wondered how privacy works with stuff like this. Are the documents just wide open for anyone to read?


Just shitcoiner.


Good man. It's good to have you back on board. We don't need you running around thinking you own money.


I'd live on the edge and have no railing though.


Not gonna lie, I'd fucking rock that so hard.


They can ask about deez nuts.


It is their money if you read the terms.


We need a neutral payment processor...

Some sort of digital asset that is fair, reliable, secure, and fast.

Someone should invent that.


They could understand it. I think it's more an issue of incentives not to.


What's more amazing is when people make unsubstantiated claims and then gaslight others for calling it out.


Proud of my wife.

Somehow overpaid about $3000 in taxes throughout the year.

Her response: "Well, I know where that's going."

Yes. lol


I love that #GrapheneOS gives me gentle reminders to check the security of certain configurations and apps. Super helpful.


I like the idea of paid relays. May help with some spam in the future.


I'm sure it'll evolve out somehow as time goes on.


Lol Are we just creating the next generation spam network without even realizing it? Probably


Yeah, that's a bit confusing. Maybe one has something baked in that works a little differently in Android than the other. Not sure. It could be that one is more of a desktop bookmark while the other is integrated into the system more deeply.


I once accidentally zapped one of my own notes and realized that people could easily zap the hell out of their own stuff at virtually no cost. That's definitely going to be abused if feeds are using that as a metric.


Yes it does.

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Lol I used to be a Christian with a lot of faith and my life was absolutely worse than it is now. Thanks for playing. Really enjoyed the high IQ points.


Just because I haven't read your one proposed book doesn't mean I don't understand what faith is. This particular discussion is fruitless at this point, but thanks for it anyway.


I don't think we are understanding each other, so take care.


I think you are to a point. Starting the app up and all that probably is quicker, but I find a negative return with too many on the screen. It's quicker for me to just click the link in my alphabetical bookmarked app folder. But whatever, your point is valid either way. It wasn't my intent to make that the highlight of my post. Just wanted to show how easy it is, at least on Android. Not sure how it works on iOS.


The Strike fee structure is a lot better now, in my opinion. Good move.


sudo rm -rf / yourself

Not really, I'm only joking.


That's a long winded way of confirming what I said. I'd also be cautious when claiming that things are unknowable. We now know a lot of things that were once unknowable. Faith is irrational belief in something without evidence. Do that if you want, but adding a lot of words and pseudo philosophy won't change that. Faith is an emotional state. It isn't based in reality or fact.


Pretty simple, but it's really just a browser wrapper for the web page. You could also just use bookmarks. Maybe it's a bit faster for some people.

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Not in this context anyway.


Questions with no definitive answer really aren't relevant.


I'm on the right side of the curve and it's easy over here too.


It should be whatever each creator licenses it as. I want Foss AI to exist, but not if it's stolen.


Why does that question matter? The number won't be fewer if it's open. It's going to at least be the same and probably more if it's open. No relevance.


You still haven't demonstrated how the funds are in the custody of anyone other than the user, so I'm ending our talk. You're wasting my time.


I don't do slave work now.


They're conflating different concepts. One can acknowledge reality without relinquishing value of their own life and what they do with it. A painter can still paint even if AI bots can technically do it better. Will someone buy it? I don't know, probably. But there's a very real possibility that technology will eventually make life so cheap that it hardly matters.


You're conflating two separate concepts. AI and machines can outperform humans at mental and physical tasks without negating our own value of life. He's just pointing out reality. That doesn't mean he has any negative emotions toward his own existence.


Faith isn't finding an answer. It's creating one without evidence and accepting it as fact even if it isn't. Replacing his attitude with irrationality like yours isn't an improvement. It's a downgrade.


They shrink infinitely, since robots can eventually outperform humans at everything. Tesla is already making massive strides in dexterity.


The phone or whatever is running the full node. Mutiny is simply setting it up for you and providing a communication server if you want to use it. That isn't the same thing as Mutiny running the node on their own servers.


Bro, the node isn't on a server. It's on the user's device.


I don't want them to do shit. I'm just pointing out that I don't see how you go from that issue to Mutiny being a custodian of funds. They are running a communication domain. How does that equate to having control of funds?

The node is already running on the user's device, not a Mutiny device. Your claims are inaccurate and you're doubling down instead of admitting it.


For the record, I appreciate the zap and I stand by my belief that the like button is old world garbage.

I laughed my ass off when I saw this and that's worth thousands of sats to me. (Kind of brought it right back around to being offensive again but whatever.


Yep. The bull market has officially started.

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Fedora is good.


I wish I could do this in Primal.


It was an odd film.


If it isn't about news, I have no idea what it is lol


I would grant though that our culture has little respect for freedom and that certainly plays a role. But the political structure only reinforces that in my opinion.


This isn't just a complain post though. #Bitcoin and other freedom tech will make your advice meaningful in the coming years, but right now, it's largely a joke. Running, winning, and succeeding are all very different things, and there are very few cases of policitcal success that expands freedom. Most of it these days comes from the courts.


Overly simplistic statements like this aren't helpful. Plenty of people run themselves (or try to) and get held up in various ways by the current system.

Our current political system is designed to prevent meaningful change. You can see it happen in real time any time someone starts making too much noise.

People without the backing of powerful media and special interests have an almost zero chance of winning any meaningful political position. And in the rare instances they do, they spend most of their time in office fighting the system without ever making meaningful progress.

Really, show me the progress outsiders have made in the past decades. Most of it is bad progress made by the ones who support the system rather than me.


This specific example is old and over, but how many people actually want this? Yeah, we vote, but how many voters REALLY want this?

Voting for someone doesn't mean you actually want them as your leader.

I think we have a problem in the US where we get to vote, but have little choice over who we get to vote for. I don't see how else this kind of shit would happen.

There are people who have been in Congress over half their lives. That's an arbitrary measure, but probably a pretty good one when defining how long is too long.

I wonder how many people would actually say they support this if they could answer anonymously. My guess is almost zero.

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Halloween every day


I remember seeing this and wondering what the fuck we're doing.

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Some are hardly walking lol Remember this?

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YES.

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Bullish as fuck.


I will never apologize for being bullish on humanity.

#Bitcoin is humanity. Other animals don't create things like Bitcoin. We are unique. We are special.

I love humanity, even if few humans will ever earn my love.

I'm a permabull when it comes to Bitcoin. Anything less than setting humanity free is bearish, and I don't have time for bears anymore.


650k is bearish.


Would 10/10 hold off on the honey, but you can't exactly complain about free pizza. lol I'd try it though. You never know...


Notice that I'm not even talking about Proton specifically (and I know who Rob is), I'm talking about your point that not everyone is using Proton servers, therefore running your own server is the real answer.


My IQ is 137. What's yours?

Not that IQ has anything to do with my actual question or even Proton specifically.

How does your server address your issue with the fact that not everyone uses the same email server? Running your own server is still an illusion of security by your own definition, so why is it the 'real' answer? I don't see how it addresses your problem since not everyone is using your server exclusively either...


I won't leave large sums in it certainly, but it's always better, in my opinion, to have more options for people. It increases the odds of freedom overall, self custody or not.


Maybe I'll post a larger one that's mixed up into a Shakespeare play or something lol


As far as I can tell, those servers are just a convenient way for your own node to communicate with the network. It doesn't appear that the user is using on of their nodes. I don't see how that translates to Mutiny having custody. All they seem to be doing is offering a server for convenience. Of course setting up your own server is more complicated, but that doesn't mean you don't custody the funds.

What am I missing?


It may be more convenient and therefore more difficult to "do some serious moves to recover that node," but doesn't the ability to make the moves make it technically self-custody?

Self-custody doesn't necessarily mean technically simple or easy. Am I misunderstanding your point?


Companies should be allowed to offer it if they want. I think it will ultimately be an awful decision, but freedom is important.


Online gamblers will eventually be added to Elizabeth Warren's (no relation) list of #Bitcoin bad actors lol


Go zap them lol


I hate TikTok, but this is exactly why we need Nostr and why social media companies should pivot to being Nostr clients/relays instead.

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This is good. I've gotten value from both ends of a quote post.


Well, I see the issue. Commenting on someone else's post and then going ape shit on them for agreeing with you with clarification is not a great way to make friends.


How is running your own server a solution to your issue with security being an illusion if everyone isn't within the same domain? Not everyone will be using your server...


I'm sure there are people who think whatever you use is a honeypot. What I never see is actual evidence.


Probably because you commented on a comment discussing other people's ability to edit other people's note. It's called an agreement with clarification. If you're going to be an asshole, fuck off and don't reply to people.


I like #Primal. It's cleaner. Amethyst is too cluttered for me. Drives me crazy. But it's a good client in general.


YES.

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YES


Do you think anything is missing in the Bitcoin podcast realm?


They should have focused on #Bitcoin from the start instead of their stupid BAT shitcoin. They actually had a decent idea but ruined it with BAT.


Or multiple savings UTXOs depending upon how you hodl


I have a savings UTXO and several others for spending. But you could also break it apart and wash it at a later time if you need to spend some of the savings UTXO.


That depends entirely on your stack size.


Good. I was testing you.


That's a good idea.


Admittedly, there are a few X maxis that I miss.


Fuck em.


Great points. I actually think it is fiscally irresponsible to have a zero position at this point. It's riskier in my opinion.


Not my future.


I just heard the scariest story in a while. Someone told me that they had been traveling in China and, on the way out, the border police pulled up a tool that showed countless photos of this person taken by public surveillance cameras during their visit.

These are CCTV cameras in public. Faces classified with AI. All data gathered in a central location. Don't even think for a second this is never going to happen where you live.

That's a level of dystopia I didn't know we were already in.


wHo WoUlD bUiLd ThE rOaDs?

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I'd disagree if you also mean the ability to delete. As of now, I think people should be able to delete notes. My opinion could change on that, but I do already understand the reasons why one would NOT want that ability to exist, as you've already pointed out. It has pros and cons in my mind.


Didn't even know that was a thing. Cool.


Frankly, most of the closed tools use a ton of open source tools. The entire web does in itself. And yet most people have no idea how any of it works.


That makes me think it is just a network effect then, which totally makes sense. Maybe algorithms weren't all they were cracked up to be. Could be that good old human connection is the answer after all. Actual "social" media.


I don't know if it's just a network effect of being here for longer or what, but Nostr seems to be getting more active. It could just be network building over time. Not sure. But it used to feel dead when I first started and now it feels more lively than Twitter ever did for me (after years of use).


I like the idea of a refund exactly to support the network, so good thinking there.


Ha. Really good point. Memetics are crucial.


The primary idea behind computing is that the computer does things for us. Again, it isn't a big deal. It's just something that would be a neat feature way down the line when we're just looking for something to do.


I understand that I can just zap back. That is inefficient when it could be automatic. That's the whole point of this post.


It would be cool if I could somehow deny (or refund, etc) zaps from certain people I support. Take @ODELL, for example. The guy zaps. I love him for it. But I really just want him to keep his sats because I already support him.

It's a bit inefficient in cases like this. Is it a big deal? Nah. Just something that would be cool. The digital version of "your money is no good here" (in the good way).

I would want it to be obvious though. Not just an error or something obscure. Either a refund with a note or a message that says my reason for the rejection.


That's my only point. I just will not accept open gates for anyone to edit my notes. Not even if all I get is a request. I simply don't want that. To be fair, I'm not up to date on the entirety of the idea here so things could be changing faster than I can keep up. It seemed as though anyone could edit anyone when I first saw it.


Maybe for my own note, but I don't want other people to "tidy" my notes. I must have the option to prevent that. That was my point.


GOOD MORNING, CAP'N.

NOSTR ONLY. FREEDOM ONLY.


For what it's worth, I would absolutely not want this on my end. If I am forced to suffer it, I wouldn't use the platform. It will be abused. I don't have a problem stating that as fact. Certainly once more people are here. The trolls will eventually figure us out.


That's how I ended up here. I wondered one day what happened to @ODELL. Fast forward two months and I'm purple pilled #Nostr only. And that was one dude.


The big names waiting for others to leave Twitter is exactly why so few are leaving Twitter.  People require motivation. Cross posting doesn't give them any.

They're just following your example by continuing to use Twitter.

#Nostr only, #freedom only.


Whatever meets your needs.


People largely don't want electric after discovering the real cost vs claimed benefits. I'd rather have a hybrid at this point.


Do you have to? Or are you choosing to even if you don't want to? There is a big difference.


I would require the option to turn this off. I don't want people editing my notes and wouldn't use the platform if that was the default with no way of preventing. I wouldn't use Nostr anymore. And it absolutely would be abused.


Good point. I'm already on a #Bitcoin standard. It's been very successful for me.

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You have to be a loser to harass developers.


Firearms are the modern sword. You shouldn't live by the sword, but you should know how to if necessary.

It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.


I admin all the tech in my house, so my wife uses GrapheneOS.

As beautiful and wonderful as she is, she uses apps that make me cringe. Some of them, probably for reasons that would take my breath away, don't work at all in the GrapheneOS security structure. Here's how to (probably) weaken your security to make them work:

1. Go to the app info for the app that isn't working.

2. Enable the Exploit protection compatibility mode.

This has resolved all issues for me.

*F-droid is used as an example app. It doesn't have issues

P.S. I was upgrading her device and saw that she listened to me and removed the TikTok app, so... progress. 😍

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I survived the Bear Market of March 5th & 6th, 2024

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Lol This is too real.


Quick, halt trading so the right people won't be bag holders lol

There are no free markets in the legacy system.

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I've been able to move most of my applications to #Obtainium. Getting a new phone and installing GrapheneOS helped push me into doing it, since a lot of stuff was being reconfigured anyway.

I can't see myself going back to the old centralized model. I wish more of my FOSS apps would include binaries in their got repos, but many may not be aware of the Obtainium use case yet.

I have security questions, but honestly I never had much insight into the security of centralized app stores either. Frankly, I'm skeptical that they are as secure as many claim to be.

It seems to me that downloading directly from the development git repo offers as much security as one could hope for, especially if the alternative is an entire store layer added on top that the developers have no control over.

It would be cool if key and binary verification could somehow be implemented, but I have no idea if that's possible or practical.

I'm excited for this project. It's going to be crucial as time goes on. I think the major closed app stores are going to be far more oppressive as freedom tech becomes a real threat (by becoming easier for normies to adopt).


Well, I agree and find it equally odd considering the state of Nostr and what it seeks to achieve. I put in a part-time just do use freedom versions of what takes other people no thought at all, but my hope is to have everyone do that at some point without all the time we put in. The number of Apple users is particularly baffling to me.

But I do understand to an extent because being a 'deep' user who really digs in and takes time to report bugs can be an entire job in itself across all of this software, in my experience.

To go and apply the same amount of time and energy to just reporting bugs is probably daunting.

We just need to all be patient with each other I think. You're right that hate and anger won't ultimately solve any of these issues.


Just ask me the question.

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Agreed. It drives me crazy. Just ask me the question. I can refuse to answer it if I wish


It's kind of funny though.


And for the record, I took this post to mean that we should be reporting exclusively at the new location, not that we could still use the old format while the new one is being built out.

Again, communication. That simply wasn't clear at all and can be frustrating for people who take the time to report bugs. It's actually a lot of work sometimes.


Then why not communicate that? I've been on both sides of this thing (user and developer), and I've noticed that communication (on both ends) is almost always the biggest issue in software.

When you respond with 1. Use Firefox and 2. Your emotion toward this is unhelpful, that doesn't at all communicate that you care and work is happening behind the scenes that outsiders may not understand (such as in this case).

I think we all need to do a better job of communicating, myself more than anyone else.

Thanks for your work, Vitor. I know how demanding and frustrating it can be, but it usually is communication breakdown


Me either until this post.


I love Firefox, but I have to agree. Requiring a specific browser with a specific plugin is hardly better than using something like self-hosted GitLab.


I'm not expecting perfection, but Mutiny is looking pretty cool on Android so far. I always liked that they started with web first.

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LAN parties were so much fun.


At least not when there are viable alternatives.


I'm especially cautious about keyboard apps because they are useful keyloggers. It wouldn't take much for a closed app to secretly collect all text, and text is super cheap to store and transmit. I trust their sandboxing just fine, but sandboxing doesn't solve every problem and shouldn't be used as a crutch or excuse to install software that is likely to be dangerous.

The idea, in my opinion, is to have the sandboxing for apps you generally trust just in case. Not to install bad software like Gboard.


I'm fucking laughing at 66k. I'll be laughing and buying at 10M.


Feeling like a boomer not knowing anything about this Cashu thing.


I'd rather do without than use Gboard. lol Thanks for the recommendations. I wish we could just load our own emojis into the keyboard or OS, although that could introduce an attack vector. Might just build a FOSS emoji app. Would require switching apps, but could still be less cumbersome than going through some of these keyboards.


Thank you.


#GrapheneOS is falling apart.

No salute emoji in the stock keyboard.

Bananas.


Good points.


Fuck off.


Gazans should have considered the consequences of Hamas before it went and started a war with another country. They don't get to play victim after the fact while still allowing them to continue being a threat. They should kill Hamas themselves.

Hamas is clearly the more evil government and therefore has no claim to moral superiority. They should all die.


Welcome to #Bitcoin.


I don't care what you believe. Israel has a duty to destroy the enemies who attacked it, even if those scumbags hide behind children. That is on Hamas and those who enable them (the people who allowed them to exist in power), not Israel. Rand doesn't have to agree with my every position for me to have one, as I know how to think, but she definitely would agree with me. You've clearly read very little of her work.

Here's her proving you wrong since you're too lazy to check for yourself.
 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YnAtQtueg&pp=ygUZYXluIHJhbmQgaW5ub2NlbnRzIGluIHdhcg%3D%3D


I understand that, but I have no desire to. All the other UIs I've tried really sucked in comparison. Not worth GIFs.


I'm in too deep with Primal to switch at this point. lol I'm sure it'll be added eventually.


Sadly, 90% of my communication as a millennial is done through GIF so I'm kind of fucked on Primal right now lol I guess I could post them for the other clients, but not as fun.


I'm considering getting into ham radio after school. Seems really cool and useful


Unfortunately, no. They don't play on Primal for me.


You can use any Android app store you want. I've been moving everything I can to Obtanium though.


Cool. Welcome.


Schiffty is a funny one.


lol

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GIF support on #Primal would be 👌


Agreed. They should move that whole deal to a subdirectory if they want to keep it. primal.net/download or whatever


GOOD MORNING NOSTR, WE LIKE THE COIN, WE STACK THE SATS, WE NEVER SELL, WE SPEND AS NECESSARY.

LIVE LIFE WITHOUT PERMISSION. RIDE OR DIE. FOREVER. 🫡

https://m.primal.net/HhbD.mp4


It's better than Android though in the sense that it's hardened. There have been cases of exploits that affected all Android users except those using GrapheneOS. The image crop vulnerability, for one.


The way it should be if privacy and security is the goal.


It's pretty much just stock Android without the proprietary Google stuff. You can install sandboxed Google services if you want.


Installed GrapheneOS today.

Life is good.

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The signal is on Nostr. TwitX is a lot of noise.


Disagree. It would be a pile of shit and would make people even less likely to succeed.


200 IQ


Three Meshtastic nodes are active in Cape Town for off-grid communications during disasters or just to meet your neighbours

https://image.nostr.build/1587f64b96b88ebef3e79216219540adbc212da44650848a8eb764088bd5036a.jpg

Myself and two other ham radio operators have established 3 Meshtastic nodes that will operate 24/7 to help build out more connectivity across Cape Town.

We are using license-free 868 MHz radios, so anyone can buy these cheap (ish) devices and get connected. The more nodes we have, the better the connectivity gets across the whole city. These radios will keep messaging going regardless of whether there is Internet or not. So if we hit Stage 8+ load shedding and cell towers and Internet starts to go down, this messaging network will still work.

This means that citizens can message for assistance needed, and this can be relayed to City or Provincial Disaster Risk Management. Or in cases of loss of communications during a disaster we can also send out messages to everyone on the network as to where water tankers will be deployed etc.

Apart from the public channel (which is much like CB radio's Channel 19) anyone can also create their own private channels (with passwords) to stay in contact with groups of friends or family. The connections between all radio nodes are encrypted with AES256 encryption, so private messages will stay private even though they bounce across 3 or more other radio nodes to reach the recipient.

You have a phone, so all that is needed is the free Meshtastic app, and a Meshtastic compatible radio device. This is probably bad timing, as right now there is a global shortage of Meshtastic radio devices. The massive global uptake has also made this situation even worse. But the point of preparing for disasters, is to do that well before a disaster strikes.

I've documented a lot of my lessons learnt, as well as given some context to the situation in South Africa for this service at the linked web page below.

See https://gadgeteer.co.za/hamradio/meshtastic-in-south-africa/

#technology #Meshtastic #offgrid #CapeTown #SouthAfrica


I'm down, but the US is so large, and people like us so few, that it would be really hard unless a large number of people experienced enough motivation to do this. It would most likely be one guy setting these up for his family in smallish towns in the US. Still cool though.


The Pixel has made life easier too as far as this stuff goes. I used to do janky shit to break bootloaders and gain root access back when the first Android phones came out.

Now, I hit a script AND don't have to do all the terrible for security stuff. Winning.


I remember back when ROMs were a thing. Total garbage compared to what we have now. Life is good.


#Bitcoin is out of the cage it's been stuck in.

Watch the fuck out.


Uh oh. lol


It used to be...not so simple. lol The web script has made it incredibly more simple.


Mullvad is pretty solid as far as VPNs go. And the VPN space is sleazy as fuck these days. They stand out as honorable to me.


LFG but also inflation adjusted or it didn't happen.


THE STATECOINERS WILL TRY TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM.

WE WILL NOT COMPLY. 🫡


It's not the size of the stack... 😥


Shit, wake me up at 10M. I'll yawn and click buy.


Tis the season...

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lol tis the season


Few understand the difference between the country and its current state.


I am more hoping for a slow descent so things have time to adjust slowly. A "soft landing" of the currency.


https://grapheneos.org/install/web
https://grapheneos.org/features


Obtainium is really good.

I wish more apps had the binary files in the git repo. It's kind of weird that they don't.


Not that I've used. The guide from GrapheneOS was good enough, and is the only one I'd recommend given the nature of the software.


Running GrapheneOS (again).

I used it years ago, long before most of you noobs even knew what it was. 😏

It's much better now.

#GrapheneOS is good.


The only agreement should have been the middle finger.


Yeah I do too. A meme in itself.


They should add a button to adjust all entries to current price, but doing that automatically would be even more confusing


Inflation adjusted lol


Seems like the concept of filters could be easily applied here. Just adding a blur/solid color instead of whatever other filter would otherwise be added.

Obviously, you'd need to be sure the output format can't just have the filters removed.


Not until 100k USD since that's the big daddy fiat right now.


There's a LNURL option in my receive. I think it told me once that invoices without defined amounts are insecure. Maybe that has something to do with it.


He should be in prison. Forgery and fraud are certainly good enough reasons to be.


I'm ready to go back to never seeing anything about these dudes. They need to be retired back to irrelevance. Can't wait.


When is this shit supposed to be over?


Naturally.


Before going Nostr only, I would just use a browser. No notifications, sandboxes using Firefox Containers. It was good.


There's likely a much simpler explanation. I've had similar experiences that started to drive me wild and I eventually discovered the source every time. I'm focused like that though. Annoying sounds pretty much take precedent over anything I'm doing until I fix it lol


SeedVault is good.

https://calyxinstitute.org/projects/seedvault-encrypted-backup-for-android


You can do any size part you want. I don't mean to imply that stacking and holding is doing nothing. That in itself helps a ton. We need people who give out books, send links, etc. One simple thing I do is send a list of beginner links to anyone who asks me about Bitcoin or seems like they'd be receptive to it. Those links go to videos that are likely to make them dig a little deeper. Small act with a potentially huge impact.


Really cool demonstration of the power of CSS.

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CSS is indeed powerful.


Or use it to earn. Sats sent.


Poor is a mindset, broke is a state. Maybe get off social media and spend time building wealth instead?


You could probably just do this at the client level instead if excluding most people at the protocol level.


I've wondered this too. I'm actually listed as one of my own followers. I don't recall following myself lol


Maybe they should be replaced by Nostr lol


Interactions. I'm being somewhat facetious. Idiots are everywhere, and Nostr isn't inherently idiot proof. That's fine. Mute is good. Nostr is good.


What's more bizarre is that a phone number doesn't necessarily even verify any particular identity. It's an awful 2FA (SIM swap) and companies should let users choose a different option or at least force it at signup to avoid rugs later.


I was wrong. There is certainly no shortage of retards on Nostr.


You're a fucking retard. Into mute land you go.


#Austriches. #Austrich. Aussies.

CommBank has responded to my threat on Twitter. Please give them a piece of your mind.

We have had enough.

https://twitter.com/CommBank/status/1764213350148472920?t=e1MNUc5_nXNRiPU9AtoOow&s=19


Who even said anything about avoiding taxes? Having financial privacy doesn't mean one is avoiding taxes. You're entire interaction here makes no sense.


Ayn Rand believed in having a state, dumb ass. I'm literally voicing ideas SHE convinced me of. Maybe you need to go read more of her work before using her as a fallacious attack against my argument.


You ever notice how the definition of criminals continuously expands to include more and more people? You're already considered a criminal just for wanting freedom in most countries.


You'd think the Jews would be better at genocide given their actual experience with it.

Giving aid to their enemies and going out of their way to end the conflict is a piss poor plan for genocide.

What a bullshit, low IQ argument.


Yeah, because people committing genocide go out of their way to avoid civilians and give them aid. What a joke.


I've actually just looked at history and reality. I don't need a counter to my views. I support the more moral state, and that's Israel.


One of the few legitimate functions of government is to defend it's people from attack. To that end, it is a government's duty to attack and destroy without mercy until full surrender. No deals, no compromises. Surrender or annihilation. That's the deal.

The people who don't have the stomach for that are the reason we see decades long wars with far more deaths. In fact, Israel has been too delicate, which has caused more deaths.

War should be swift and brutal. So much so that future threats think twice before fucking around and finding out again. THAT is the point of a state. Hamas has went on for too long, and the people of Palestine have allowed it for years.

I don't want it to be this way, but I'm not going to blame anyone other than Hamas and those who enable them. They can end this and choose not to. That's on them.

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So yes, it is self-defense.


Those deaths are on Hamas, not Israel. Israel has a duty to end the threat that slaughtered their people. Hamas hiding behind children isn't Israel's responsibility. They have no duty to Palestinians. The people in Palestine should kill Hamas and sympathizers if they really disagree with them so much. You don't get to stand by while your people amass weapons and attack another country then cry genocide when that country responds.

The responsibility lies solely with those who attacked and continue to attack Israel; those who refuse surrender and support Hamas.


Self-defense isn't genocide.


Self defense isn't genocide.


Have a look at what?


It's a ridiculous idea altogether. A cypherpunk just wouldn't go if they really didn't want cameras to see them there. I find it bizarre, unless there are specific rules that ban it and people do it anyway. If the rules allow it, you have no moral superiority. Everyone agreed by choosing to be there. I don't personally take pictures of anyone without asking, even in public, but I would never expect other people to be the same at a conference that allows it. I just wouldn't go or cover my face if it was that big of a deal.


Public events can implement rules too. I never said they didn't have rules. I just think it's retarded to go to any event in spaces that you don't own expecting to not end up on a camera. I don't think it's reasonable to say it's indecent to take photos at such events either unless the rules expressly prohibit it. Everyone went knowing the rules.

You don't have to like it, but I just don't think it's indecent to take a photo of a crowd if the rules allow it and everyone there is choosing to be there with their faces exposed.


It feels sleazy because it is. What a scumbag.


This post says crowd shots, not walking up to an individual face and snapping a shot.


Breaking rules is a completely different issue. I'd still argue that a conference is public for the purpose of this argument.


Cool. Can't wait to use my hardware 2FA device for the mobile app instead of OTP.


Should one go to a conference if they don't want to be known?

You're in a public space. Wear a face covering. Expecting others to not take photos is absurd.


Don't really care which you choose. I ditched it because of it's insane leader. I saw recently he left though.

CalyxOS is good.


#metoo


Me too.


CalyxOS

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Developers: What are some things you wish users/non-developers would do more or less of?


Only those who understands satoshi principles n philosophy of #P2P and #permissionless "#TRANSACTIONAL #FREEDOM" will never fall into TRAP of ETF / FUTURES / other DERIVATIVE 🥕 and handover their 🥞 voluntarily or otherwise.
https://v.nostr.build/ejBL.mp4
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Nice use of the 🥞 emoji.


I was thinking it could be similar to Community Notes on X, except the poster has an opportunity to accept the changes/corrections on their own.


I do it for those who want to be better. I don't consider such people to be my lessers. But I have pulled back in some ways due to how wasteful on time it can be if one doesn't have limits. For example, I won't debate people on Bitcoin anymore. They can either learn from me gracefully or have fun getting poorer. So in that way, I agree.


I'd quite everything else with X being the last. Feels really good.


Agree.


My cat is super bullish on packaging.

https://m.primal.net/Hgpy.jpg
https://m.primal.net/HgqB.jpg
https://m.primal.net/HgqC.jpg


Hodling Bitcoin will make early adopters richer. No doubt. Many of us already are, the world just hasn't figured it out yet. But most people will need to produce value for Bitcoin at some point (just like I did, except without the insane growth in savings value from being early).

Money has no value if production is zero. Not everyone can just hodl and be rich. Wealth comes from production, not consumption.

There's no shame in creating businesses that earn Bitcoin. 'Just hodl, bro' is only going to work for a small portion of people.

Do both. Saylor has the right idea in my opinion. Money has to be backed by production of value.

More people creating Bitcoin companies (not saying they can't also accept fiat in the interim) now will speed up adoption and create a sustainable money for humanity.

The business can be anything, not just Bitcoin related. The most important thing is that the world has businesses that are prepared for the shift from a fiat slave world to a free one. Essentially, we need businesses that will survive and thrive on the other side.

Working on this myself.


Jk. I am considering building a corn based business though.


Buy a corn startup.


Now that we have forks and edits, we can do pull requests between users. It's time to bring some collaboration to social media. 🚀
https://video.nostr.build/794e30873eb53b59fd8a3be078064cb8ede28a9820c8e74044a1b7c7cc38fea6.mp4


https://i.nostr.build/ZrkM.jpg

#plebchain #meme #sqooq


Obviously, it is an assessment that is unique for everyone. So congrats.


That's great. I tend to take the approach though that the largest weaknesses are often missed once people start thinking they have it all covered. I'm guessing you could do SOMETHING better. Just don't stop thinking about it. That's my point.


Maybe we should discuss changing the term to something like "Connect" or "Subscribe." Facebook kind of did this with "Friends," but that didn't make sense either after it exploded in popularity.

Serendipitous experiences like this are why I use social media. I hadn't thought as much about this until now.

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I don't understand why one would use social media if they don't care about following and being followed. Again, I'm using follow in the social media context of connection. I've actually never liked the term. "Connect" or "Subscribe to updates" more accurately reflects how I use social media. To some people, "follow" can have cult or religious type meanings. And I suppose you do see that in some contexts on social media. It's not appealing to me though.


I never said I needed a following. But having more followers generally increases interaction on a platform. That's great unless the platform incentivizes toxicity. I love interaction. That's why I use social media. I didn't want to deepen my connections on a toxic, centralized platform. It would be harder to leave than with fewer connections.

Having more followers (in the social media sense) increases my odds of spreading information I care about. That's something I get out of it. This just comes back to connecting with people though.


Well, I could have kept my private key on paper but I chose to buy steel. I could have stored my wealth in a hot wallet, but I chose to buy materials to built an air gapped device. All of these things objectively improved my security but cost me time and sats.

Feelings have no place in security. It should be based on an objective assessment of risk and what's at stake. 'No one is secure' is a cop out. The goal isn't to be impenetrable, but to be as hard as possible to penetrate.

There are no bullet proof vests, but there are bullet resistant ones. I wouldn't advocate not having one simply because something exists that could penetrate it.

Steel is objectively more secure than paper. Cold storage is objectively more secure than hot storage. Using encryption is objectively more secure than using plaintext.

Stacking Bitcoin isn't an offensive technology in every domain. It isn't going to secure itself simply because it has a security network. You still have to invest in security outside of the network. And even the Bitcoin infrastructure itself requires investment to remain secure long term.


I chose to leave X at the beginning of a bull market because it was hard. It was so easy to sit on there and watch all the craziness going on, but that only sent me deeper into the platform. I probably would have grown a larger following as the bull raged (given my nature as a permabull, and growing engagement with other popular accounts), and it would then be even harder to leave.

Social media is designed to suck people in as deeply as possible. Nostr is different. I feel like I'm the user rather than the used. X is going to continue sucking people down the WeChat of the West funnel and I'm just not feeling it.

Odell was right and I should have listened sooner. I hope others listen too.


My reasoning is that you could stop eating to stack more, but you'd die. I consider stacking to be for excess. If you can cut excess to stack more, great, that's your choice. I don't consider security to be an excess. You should always take care of the necessities first, in my opinion. I buy Bitcoin as a form of security, so letting other security lack isn't logical to me.


Gotta defend that network


Google really didn't have a choice unless they want to go down the same path of destruction every other company does after entertaining unions.


I'm glad I never got into like some people. Signal was shitcoining too last I checked. Been using Matrix with the few who even use e2e with me


You ever think that people like you make up the 1000 person list? You're clearly a moron with nothing of value to add. Muting is the best solution.


Yes

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It's just not the same thing. Companies were always going to build closed source things on top of OpenAI. That happens with all FOSS. OpenAI, as I understand it, was meant to serve as an open base for AI development that anyone can use. And then they rugged. It appears to me to be entirely different than starting closed and remaining closed. Especially since people gave money for it to be open.


I think the issue is that they rug pulled people who originally bought into it being actually open, hence the name. Elon and everyone else got rugged.


OpenAI was a massive rug pull.


NOSTR ONLY

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I use privacy.com for this stuff. Doesn't matter if they are honest or not then.


I've had problems with gifs as well.


Bullish on time travel.

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Let me know if you need any help designing anything nostr related 🙇♂
#nostrdesign


It's hard to tell the future, but that certainly isn't a bad recipe.


CalyxOS is a wonderful middle option


All this humble shit shows that many Bitcoiners have no concept of pride and how it's the real virtue. Humility is not a virtue. Humility is for losers who have nothing to be proud of or portray a false sense of pride (arrogance).

Be proud of your achievements. Achieve something worthy of pride if you have none.

Stay proud and stack sats.


Build it right the first time lol


I'm okay with it. I'll be there to buy what I can. Fuck em.


I'm not selling.

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Imagine being so retarded that you dump a scarce asset for something the government can just print. Absolutely bananas.


I work in emergency medicine. #Bitcoin has 'died' more times than anything I've ever seen.


Excellent rebuttal of the recent ECB disinformation campaign against Bitcoin.

The emperor is naked.

https://twitter.com/StachAlex/status/1760682488354291940


Fuck the ECB.


Maybe some people have it stored somehow


Well, it did the last time I logged in anyway


Oh, yeah it does. That's a problem I have in general with Nostr apps and services right now.


Well, it can't stay underpriced forever if we want it to actually succeed.


Tagging is a problem I've had forever. I've mentioned it before. I'm never going to go through that trouble, so hopefully they eventually work something out. It's a big deal in my opinion.


I'm not sure.


@Primal has small issues, but I'm consistently blown away that the Android app is beta software. The wallet experience has been pristine.

I'm close to just recommending it as a lightning wallet for noobs who don't want self-custody Lightning yet. It's that's easy. (I understand there are likely better options, but onboarding to Nostr is a cool bonus.)

Great work, Primal team.


I totally agree, but they could do both at least. You'd think promoting the ethical replacement would be at least that important.


I'm 30. Not very old. But getting to the point where I'm not very young either.

Anyway, it hit me today that #Bitcoin has been around for about half my life. Technology has exploded so much even in my short time on the planet.

Kids being born today are going to read about my early days as foreign history. They'll have no concept of it.

I was born at a great time.

It's going to be wild.


Not going to lie. I'm pretty bulled up right now, freaks.


For the record, this is really meant to stir some thought. I'm aware that we are early days, but there are A LOT of tools coming out very quickly and security now is going to be a lot better than security later. I've seen some attractive tools already that aren't just social media use cases. It's great, but securing applications only becomes more difficult as they grow in users.


Do you mean applications are implementing that? Because my point is that users shouldn't have to think about the problem at all. It should just be a Dev and cultural standard.


You should be a permabull. We have every reason to be.


My wife knows I'm a permabull. She already knows to expect highs and lows. There are no bears in our house.


I've tried and most 'maxis' are completely ignoring, as if it isn't totally inline with #Bitcoin. I don't understand it. Most of them are Twitter addicts I think. Glad I'm Nostr only now. X is a shitcoin.


just a few hours on nostr and already hooked

the feeling of *using* freedom tech is exhilarating

we need to get more ppl on here


Let's go. Maybe they'll switch to #Bitcoin

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It's great to be here with you.


Our culture and schools in the US now teach people to doubt themselves and even what they see with their own eyes.

#Bitcoin is exposing reality and many still don't get it.


Their Bitcoin holdings makes up the entire company's value in my opinion. Better off just holding your own.


Beautiful. I dream of visiting a mine.


Fuck:

ECB
Fed
US Treasury
Elizabeth Warren (no relation)
Peter Schiffty
Jamie Dimon
EIA
IRS
Elizabeth Warren (no relation, thank fuck)
Coinbase
SEC
Bears
Gareth Soloway
MSM
Joe Biden

What did I miss?


Yep. I'm the kind of guy who usually just has a huge smug smile and says nothing. They know. I know. I'm good.


Welcome, Class of 2024.


I'm glad I went Nostr only.


I'm not getting any messages. I'm not sending any messages.

I told people and they shrugged me off or laughed. I've gone silent.

I'm not playing the game anymore where people reach out when the rocket has launched only to blame me when it pulls back a bit on it's trajectory up and right.

I'm done unless someone specifically asks me for resources to learn Bitcoin themselves.

No explaining. No convincing.

I don't need it.


Joe Kernan needs to be on all the podcasts. I'm interested in seeing him develop an even stronger position on #Bitcoin.


I like this guy more every time he pushes back against bullshit.

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There is no second best when it comes to a full LN node in your pocket 🔥

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Me: Can't wait for $58k again!

Bitcoin: GM! You slept through it, bro.

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Bitcoin never sleeps.


#58kgang what happened, was that it? You guys better start doing #100pushups now 🤣 https://image.nostr.build/e511f8b4c506e6eb2ae3ce8faf567fd0b11d705d053948185b69de926d14d7db.jpg


Stay proud and stack sats.


Yes. It's time for a new breed of bulls. The Permabulls. Seasonal bulls can fuck off too.


I guess I'm going to have to calm the fuck down with how many sats I'm firing off now that the bulls are out of hibernation. No worries, just a matter of adjusting my default zaps to market value.

It would be cool if this could be done in the @Primal UX automatically. Tied to whatever fiat one is unfortunately living with.


Yeah, we had a conversation about dice rolls on there. I've since went Nostr only.


And stop telling people how many sats you have lol


Consolidate your UTXOs while you can, look for ways to earn more, and be proud of what you have accomplished. You jumped off the train before it went over the cliff. Most won't. Now you just have to focus on building a better life as someone who didn't get destroyed. That's a pretty good reason to not be sad, in my opinion. You're still early.


I've discussed this in more depth in other notes if you want to see some surface level thoughts. I haven't looked deeply enough at this point to write any specific technical proposals. My intention right now is to get more people thinking about the problems and learning about security going forward.


I had this experience when I first came on, but with some time, I now get a lot more interaction than I used to on X.


Me.


I used to pay for X and all I got in return was anger, centralization, less control, and less meaningful interaction.

This month, I've been zapped more than I paid for X premium and I'm zapping what I used to pay X (plus some) to those adding value to my life.

We have an incentive to create value instead of feeding an algorithm that exists to destroy us for a profit.

A system that rewards human prosperity is clearly good. A system that rewards manipulation, fear, and anger is clearly evil.

Don't look back.


I have far more interactions in general on Nostr (compared to X), but of those, a much higher percentage are actually meaningful and not a total waste of my time.

Most people are respectful, and I'm finding that I'm less anxious and stressed after LESS THAN ONE DAY of not using X anymore.

The atmosphere here would likely change as more X-drones come over, but I think a lack of anger and fear fueling algorithms will still be better. I feel empowered when curating my Nostr interactions. Paid relays will probably help too.

Something to think about.


Then you don't understand cyber security. That is one of my primary focuses in Computer Science.


Yes, but "at this point" of Nostr is when we should be discussing these ideas. This should have been an issue from the start. Auditing every application constantly (because you have to any time it updates) is absolutely not a solution and I bet pretty much no one has done it.

I didn't go audit the entire Primal codebase to make sure they aren't sending my key to a database or storing it insecurely on my device. And centralized trust isn't exactly a great model. That's one of the reasons Nostr and Bitcoin even exist.

I'm just applying the same principles of Bitcoin cold storage to Nostr apps and services.

It's not like I can have a hot wallet with a small amount of my social identity. It's all or nothing in this context.


You should charge them for the time so they have skin in the game. Otherwise, you're likely wasting your time.


So, essentially what you are describing here.


This is the point I was trying to make. One single point of reking is my problem. You're essentially describing a multisig type scenario or 2FA. I'm not sure exactly what to compare it to because it seems somewhat novel to me.

Maybe have a recovery key that never goes online that generates a private signing key that is used in a hot way, but that can be used to generate an entirely new signing key while simultaneously invalidating the other.

Removing the damage caused during the reking is an entirely different issue, but at least people won't just have entire identies rugged for services with no ability to recover.

Imagine the fallout of never being able to regain access at all. Much more damage could be done (scams, reputational damage, trolling, etc).

Of course, this still requires absolute offline security of the recovery seed or whatever, but that is more inline with the training and systems we already have in place for Bitcoin. We could simply extend functionality of hardware wallets to Nostr.


58k (debased, but whatever) crew made it today. Congrats, I guess. It's irrelevant overall, but I do like seeing fiat debasement and Bitcoin supply/demand being more accurately represented in the Bitcoin fiat price.

We should be way higher, in my opinion. Time will reveal all.


And any tool that asks for it. Anywhere you type it in and click submit.


Says you. A developer, either accidentally or on purpose, could very easily send that key to anywhere they want (or don't want in an accident). It isn't that hard to have an input prompt send the input to an email address. Attackers will create fake or copycat tools that do this exactly. It already happens with Bitcoin keys and even account usernames and passwords. It has been a problem for years.

Most people are going to use a single key for convenience and it only takes one instance to be completely rekt.

I don't have a specific solution other than something like an air gapped hardware device, but I am convinced that people will get rekt.


All of these tools having people enter their private key will eventually end in disaster.

We are training people to input their private key into whatever asks for it.

This is not good.


58k isn't even the real 58k anymore when you consider fiat debasement.


My ability to recognize accents has greatly improved since becoming a Bitcoiner.

My knowledge of geography has improved as well. I'm also more aware of what governments are doing around the world.

It's interesting how a global freedom technology can make one more aware in general.


I liked Reddit as a concept but deleted my account because of how toxically centralized it is. I would appreciate this as well.


I think the fact that people are even thinking about this is huge. We use Epic for almost everything, and their software is used by about half of all health systems. And it's shit. They just happen to be the best among far worse options. I'm interested in seeing if health systems are open to hosting their own relays for at least some applications. Likely to start with things like Dentists and therapists first though. Medical applications are a lot more complex.


Interestingly, I became tired of the algorithms exposing me to things that were little more than distractions in my life. Actually curating any other platform is a full time job if one wants to do it fully. I don't have to deal with it on Nostr so much. Much more control.


Even if they did, that wouldn't change their centralization. But the masses have nothing to say that I want to hear. I'm okay with not having everyone on board. It's their loss, not mine.

BUT Nostr will be here growing, and serving as a beacon for those who want a better life. I will certainly welcome them.


Probably because they are built and trained by people who have none.


This is the most fiat shit I've seen today.


Freedom > Convenience. It's all noise anyway.


BuT tHe PeOpLe ArE oN x

Let's be real. Most of us are talking to ourselves and other Bitcoiners right now and we have been for awhile. People deserving of freedom at this point will put in the work to find us.

Bitcoin and Nostr are Galt's Gulch. I'm done trying to save systems that seek to enslave me.

Seek us out or... Have fun staying poor.

So glad to be Nostr only now. Feels fucking great.


I did it.

Nostr only. No more shitcoins of communication.

Thanks, @ODELL. I feel so much better.

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Yes. There are bots that search other domains as well, including git repos. They are easily implemented on open systems.


Thank you very much for this financial advice. #hero


I'm guessing there are bots that constantly look for keys on Nostr and other major platforms they're likely to be accidentally or intentionally posted on


Anyone can talk in private outside of the old bitcoin-dev mailing list.

But having private groups on a closed forum advertised as open further erodes the optics.

It just invites drama. Invites concern trolling. Kill centralized platforms with benevolent dictators with fire.

Public squares must be on open protocols.


Jack Baller


Or change the game.


No more bullshit. It's time to run bad actors out of #Bitcoin. We can replace them with good developers.

Working on it.

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Thank you for the financial advice.


Hard disagree. 369 is the way.


That's why nodes have the power to not upgrade. Exercise it.


I can't wait to finish school and start developing Bitcoin. I want to be the @ODELL of developers. No more bullshit.


I just published Announcing Strike Africa

Today, we are launching Strike Africa, expanding our full suite of #Bitcoin services into Gabon, Ivory Coast, Malawi, Nigeria, South Africa, Uganda, and Zambia with more markets to come in the future.

LFG! 🌍🫡

https://strike.me/blog/announcing-strike-africa/

https://youtu.be/Oahb-XVYdDU


Sick fucks.


Are these like bets?


Still my favorite bitcoin chart.
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Goteem


Lol at including the promo code for your sponsor. Genius.


They can ban deez nuts.


Some of the old and wise Founding Bitfathers should put together a #Bitcoin memetic history book so us younger bucks can understand more of the memes.

Probably a 1B+ sat idea. You're welcome.


They can't. You don't have a Lightning address setup.


Imagine being on a train headed for the edge of a cliff. Some people are jumping off, but you wait. People keep jumping off and you keep waiting. Eventually, you wait so long that you go over the edge.

Some people jumped off a mile from the edge. Others 10 miles. Some jumped off just in time to avoid going over the edge. All of the people who jumped off have something in common; none of them went over the edge of the cliff.

Sure, some are farther from the edge and are better off for it, but everyone who jumped off made it.

Don't be the guy sitting on the train when it goes over the edge. Jump off now and be thankful you got off when you did. Stop focusing on the fact that others jumped sooner than you.

#Bitcoin


I'd point out that OpenAI is no longer open. It's only a matter of time before Mistral has the same fate.


Yeah, OpenAI still exists too. That doesn't mean the deal won't have negative influence down the road. They usually do.


That's the only logical conclusion. Otherwise, they'd only charge you the tax you deferred. The penalty is just that. It's a punishment for pulling out of their scheme.


It's clear that a few companies want to dominate AI. I'm not using their shit. I'm considering focusing on Bitcoin and AI after school. AI is too important to not be open. Build what you want on top, but the base should be open in my opinion.


Humanity can't progress until we fix money. Every other topic is largely meaningless until we solve this.

#Bitcoin solves it for me.


Then that is a marriage issue. A marriage can't work between two people on two completely separate paths. That's why I assumed a good marriage (or single parent) when answering the question. A good marriage meaning two people who are in agreement on general shared issues.

This issue can't even be addressed before the first, as a marriage is a joining of all things, including assets, in my philosophical opinion. That is legally true in many cases.

And if you value your spouse more than the outcome, then the answer was already decided before the question was asked, making this a fruitless question.

This is exactly why I have like 10k in a fiat emergency fund so my wife and I never have to worry about selling our Bitcoin. That was our agreement. And we used it recently, funny enough.

You have to be on the same page with the spouse or create a page you can both live on. Otherwise, you'll eventually be separate pages in separate books.


Nonduality isn't really a defined concept, so I can only speculate. It has various vague meanings depending upon context.


If you're trying to tell me that children being free in the future is the same as me being free now then I disagree. I want both. I'm fighting for the soonest possible freedom, not for freedom in some abstract, distant future defined by the existence of my descendents. I do it for me. They will benefit as a secondary consequence.


Frankly, most people don't even have a savings fund for themselves. It's sad to think how few people you're actually talking to here. I've been considering multiple silos for even my own savings. Seems like a good idea to extend that to kids.


I see a lot of people saying they #Bitcoin so their children can be free.

Cool, but fuck that.

I want to be free in MY lifetime. I don't want to be too dead to enjoy it.


Humility is a shitcoin.

Humility is the absence of pride and arrogance.

The concept is garbage because it puts pride and arrogance on equal footing.

Arrogance is unearned pride, or the illusion of pride; a false sense of achievement one hasn't actually earned. It's the Ethereum of pride. Pride is earned.

You should be proud of achievements and success. You can be proud without being arrogant. In fact, one can't be proud and arrogant. The two concepts are contradictory. Arrogant people aren't really proud. It's all a show.

Having no pride is the key indicator of being a loser. Such people have either done nothing worthy of pride or have bought into the bullshit concept of humility.

Fuck humility. Earn pride and be proud.

Stay proud and stack sats.


It's a completely and proudly selfish take. I have my entire wealth stored in #Bitcoin and need it to succeed. Sure, I could amass more if the price stays low forever, but that does me no good if no one wants to actually use it with me. Frankly, we can't have it both ways. It can't be a store of value AND stay low in fiat price terms. The two ideas are simply incompatible. It has to rise in proportion with demand for wealth preservation and fiat's decline in value.

We are beautifully lucky even at the price right now, and some idiots are too stupid to see that. They want it to tank and potentially kill many of the people we convinced to store their value here. Not everyone is prepared for those drops and it only serves as more fud and prolongs freedom for humanity.

All so some asshole can fill his bag more. It's easy to see who is here for fiat and who is here for true wealth AND humanity.

I want freedom in MY lifetime, not after I'm too dead to enjoy it.


I use Element (Matrix) for my closest people. Pretty much everyone else still sends me SMS. At least Signal allowed me to managed encrypted and unencrypted in one app, but they axed that so I no longer had use for them. Years spent converting people was wasted since they now had to use one app for me and SMS for everyone else.

With that selling point gone, I needed two apps again anyway and settled on Matrix for it's lack of phone number requirement at the time.

Signal fucked up here in my opinion and set me back years. I had way more friends using encryption when it was all in one app than I do now.

So it really doesn't matter. Whatever you can convince your circle to use. I just won't use badly implemented encryption.


I think this is actually critical and is a reflection of what science actually is. This is pure science. Everyone can see and judge without gatekeepers.


Would you find value in Nostr based occasion cards (Birthday, wedding, etc)?

I'm imagining beautiful digital cards that can be sent with value attached (or not, potentially).

I've gotten digital cards/gift cards and I enjoyed them. The problem is that they involved gatekeepers like Visa, Amazon, etc.

It would be cool to have a market place where creators can list their cards for sats (or free) that people can then send with sats (or not).

Yes, people can just zap or send Bitcoin, etc, but I'm not convinced that cards are dead. I like them.

It would be so cool to open a digital card and have sats sent to your wallet somehow. Preferably with little to input from the users. A time delay would be necessary for maximum effect (so the receiver doesn't randomly receive the sats before opening the card).


It was easy to see the first time people zapped one of posts. I had a holy shit moment.

I imagined a young man posting pictures of his birthday party and friends and family zapping the post with no gatekeepers. Virtually no fees. I imagine virtual Christmas, Birthday, etc cards with P2P value attached.

I imagined creators no longer having to toe the line to please platform owners and ad buyers.

I imagined people living under authoritarianism having just a little more opportunity to gain freedom.

A chain of ideas set off in my mind. THAT is how I know something big is happening.

That's what happened when I finally understood #Bitcoin.


Probably Unpopular Stance:

I don't debate with broke people anymore. If you're living check to check, we have nothing to talk about unless you're mostly listening and asking me how to not be broke anymore. I don't care what your opinion of #Bitcoin is. You're broke.

#NotHumble


Bringing X Spaces functionality to Nostr will probably push a lot more people off completely. I think it'll happen gradually like anything else. I agree that WhatsApp is shit too.


I'd be okay with removing STR more than anything. Just change it entirely. I'm sick of all the unoriginal names and terms that just have STR at the end.


You get an assignment for a paper. You entirely convey the ideas you set out to convey. Your professor admits that you did a good job conveying the required ideas, but deducts points because you did it in 3 pages instead of 4.

That's the problem with modern academia/employers.


Pull yourselves together. 57k is chump change. I'd be yawning if it were 125k right now, and many of you would be creaming yourselves while hitting the sell button.

#Bitcoin is the way out of the fiat cage. Don't sell it short to the suits. Make them earn it like we had to.


You're not special for not signing up for Twitter, but I'm glad you're happy with that decision. @ODELL is a great guy.


*Fiat gang rn


I'm seemingly one of the few maxis who think too low of a price for too long massively increases the odds of Bitcoin failing. The fiat price has to keep going up for healthy growth and stability to exist. I would yawn and buy at 125k right now.

I want to pay more for sats because I care more about the mission than the size of my bag.


Freedom technology FTW!
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Yes.


Stay proud and stack sats.


Fuck em


You can still do this by not giving it network access, but they did a great job of hiding that. This is why I use Fedora.


Thank you for your much more intelligent and even hotter take. Humanity owes you much. 🙌


Do farms get raided for selling raw milk in Texas?


GOOD MORNING, CAP'N.

STACKING AND ZAPPING.


Call me crazy, but I don't trust Sam Altman.


It may not be wise to have a lot of different Nostr services under a single private key.

I hate having accounts, but you can at least limit the damage when you get pwned.

Just a thought as so many people are setting out to replace things.


I am.


In Primal? No.


GOOD MORNING, CAP'N.

RESET IT ALL TO UTILITY VALUE.


I like the concept, but the connection makes no sense to me. I only have a private key and an npub. Is the npub not able to retrieve the follow list? I'm somewhat of a Nostr noob


They're too nutty


It has the smoothest scrolling and cleanest UI I've seen. Super nice for beta software.


I did, and it is not nearly as pleasant. Too cluttered and the scroll is awful. It has promise through. Just way too much going on in it for my taste.


GOOD MORNING, CAP'N.

THERE IS NO END TO THE BULL MARKET WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND BITCOIN.


I watched with my own eyes as he happily endorsed money printing, gun rights violations, rent moratoriams, lock downs, tariffs, and central planning. I did look at the facts, and the facts are that he is an authoritarian liar who loves power as long as he weilds it.

You can go believe his bullshit all you want, but don't roll onto my shit telling me I'm listening to propaganda rather than making up my own mind.

Deuces.


I'm not sure that I want the average IQ of Nostr to drop by onboarding more people from X, etc.


I've seen a lot of Europeans crying that Americans haven't done enough for Ukraine. Go cry to your NATO that has told them to fuck off.

It's funny how everyone hates the US until it's time for the handouts. Suddenly, it's our duty to be involved. We get slammed when we finally start pulling back after years of being crucified for being involved.

The US is broke. It's weak. It's dying.

I'm sorry for Ukraine, but I do not care about them more than the US. They shouldn't have waited until the house was on fire to try and buy insurance.

Europeans can fuck off and handle it themselves. It isn't on me, and it isn't on the US. Frankly, the entitlement I've seen has really made me dislike Europe more than I already did.


Bitcoiners v. ECB

lol #Bitcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY-h34ssD1Q


CSS is fine for the most part. I usually used Sass when I was a web developer, which certainly helped me be more efficient. I always hated the CSS frameworks (at the time, maybe they're better now, but I doubt it.)


Substituting a negative term with a different one doesn't make you morally superior when the intent is the same.

For example, calling someone 'highly regarded' instead of 'retarded' as an insult.

1. This doesn't even make sense as an insult, as being highly regarded already has a meaning and it's generally a good thing.

2. You still meant retarded and simply changed a letter to appear morally superior. Your intent is still the same. The word is just a word. The intent is what always mattered.

Either change your intent or just say the word. Everyone, including you, know what your intent is, so why bother concealing it?


Good. We shouldn't even have a department of energy.


He also said with regulations. He's a pathetic central planner and showed that during Covid. I don't understand why anyone buys his shit after the last election. I fell for it once, but to do it again at this point is insanity.


Looks like an update today fixed this.


Why is it that many modern projects seem to prioritize whatever new feature they're working on over the stability of the staple features people use the most?

This has been an annoying trend in my experience for some years now. It's like the teams are always chasing something new and shiny with no fucks to be given about the stability of existing features.

Key features should never be broken by new ones. Maybe we should go back to having stable and beta releases instead of everything being infinibeta.

Being agile really just pisses me off when shit is constantly in a state of half-functional.


#Primal is crashing every time I click the zap button.


Trump pulls his usual populist stunt of saying whatever he thinks will get votes and many #Bitcoin supporters are already getting on their knees.

The guy is an authoritarian snake. He lies and says whatever is necessary to win. He doesn't care about you or Bitcoin.


Doing the most with the least is probably just good engineering anyway.


Getting the signal out... lol

https://m.primal.net/HePr.jpg


I'm not bullish on #Bitcoin nodes that run on operating systems that auto update everything by default.

People should be seriously considering upgrades, not just accepting whatever is fired out to them.


Blah blah. Don't use it if you don't agree. I don't really give a shit and I doubt anyone else on Nostr does either.


sCaLe BiTcOiN

Few ever define what they mean by scale, and if they do, they usually describe solutions that have already been tried in #Bitcoin forks that have crashed and burned. Go use them.


Sure, second layers.


Alternatives that probably set out with a different goal than just creating a rug pull. That's probably the difference.


People at some point, maybe in the future, will get burned by plugging their private keys into things.


More specifically, his cells are using fat as a primary fuel base. Since he is also fasting, the fat has to be coming from his fat stores rather than dietary fats.


She was spot on for the security stuff. Encryption with a backdoor isn't encryption at all.


Can't blame them for being fans of the best money ever created. Also, it's still really young. People forget that


For anyone curious, this is the display. I got an older model on Newegg at a huge discount.

These things seem expensive, but they are built to be on for 16/7/365. They aren't made to be consumer TVs, but that's the price you have to pay for freedom now.

But getting a model behind massively offset the price. I paid about $600 instead of about $2200 (I think is the usual price.)

https://m.primal.net/HeKR.jpg


No, they don't have an OS in the sense that smart TVs do. They just have the basic software any display has for controlling brightness, color, etc. It's just a good old fashioned dumb TV when you use it like I do. It's incredible how that's a lost concept now. A sign of aging I suspose. Unfortunately, remembering freedom and respect seems to be one of the signs of aging now. Even our TVs abuse us.


That's the concept, but these are a better experience and funny enough, it was cheaper than a Pi when I bought it.

https://m.primal.net/HeKL.jpg


Running Android puts you back with the same problems. Software updates and data collection out of your control. I prefer a display with the only software being for basic display settings (color, brightness, etc). It's really just a massive computer monitor for retail displays. But it looks and functions just like a "dumb" TV.


I use a mini PC running Fedor. Specifically, this one

https://m.primal.net/HeKL.jpg


Now we just need to get you on Fedora and CalyxOS.

Might take a couple centuries, but I'm here for it.


It's easier if you stop looking for a TV and instead get a display. I like NEC. They are designed to run in retail but they work great in place of a TV.


This is the reason I bought an NEC retail display. No bullshit.


Fuck Elizabeth Warren (no relation)

https://m.primal.net/HeEe.jpg


Beware of scammers. I wish I could say I earned a follow from npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a , but I haven't.

Stay safe and stack sats.


This could have happened to most people on any system. Having a freedom doesn't mean one is necessarily going to exercise it, and not having the freedom certainly doesn't make one safer.


For sure.


mETH heads won't care.


Feeds on Primal consist of many notes that are completely out of context. It's actually kind of annoying to see a bunch of replies that make absolutely no sense unless I dig deeper for each one to see what is being replied to.

At least display the original note above it, like a partial thread.


Legacy media. Corporate media isn't necessarily a bad thing. Legacy media universally is bad, in my opinion.


The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world that the global economy needs to be micromanaged by academic economists who manipulate interest rates and the supply of money and that sound money is bad for the economy.


Oof.

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Ice cold.


I'm a pretty happy midwit I guess.


I'm not yet sure what I did, but done lol


Anyone else getting repeat notifications in #Primal for really old notes that have no new activity?


Almost nothing, relative to the technology we have today, existed before the industrial revolution. 1. They've existed in some form since at least 500 BCE, so you hardly have any history to support your claims, and 2. the explosion of technology and innovation happened shortly after the concept started making it into major country laws around the early 1700s.

People, in general, don't just go out and create shit unless they'll benefit from it. Bitcoin miners don't mine for free. Inventors, largely, don't invent things just to get nothing from it. And they certainly don't spend money on research and development just for no reason. So get out of here with your easily debunkable communist bullshit.


Hey, at least fees are low

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lol

https://m.primal.net/Hdim.png


Scale to what?


Does Nostr have any #cigar people yet?


ReReTruth for ReTruthing a ReTruth?


No it isn't. It's a basic incentive to create most of the shit we have today.


It's the Bitcoin of pretty much everything else. lol Why the fuck wouldn't you talk about it a lot? Why aren't they talking about it more?


I think it's clear enough what I mean.


To fight against overregulation is to accept some regulation. How does one objectively define "overregulation?"

"No regulation" is easy. It's defined by 0. Fighting for no regulation makes sense, because there is an objective goal that can be measured by everyone with the same result, like 2+2=4.

"Overregulation" has no objective meaning. KYC may be overregulation to you, but not to someone else. And how could you even debate your position when your metric has no objective definition?

Fighting "overregulation" is to fight a battle with no concept of winning. When exactly have you won? What amount of regulation is below "overregulation?" Where is the line, and how does one know when it's been crossed?

Fighting for rights with the goal of preventing "overregulation" or "too much violation" is not a long term strategy for success, if defending rights is the goal. You're already accepting a level of rights violation, which means you're accepting that you don't actually have a right; you have only that which is being granted to you.

Only taking 50% of a slave's labor by force doesn't somehow make him free. The only moral stance is to protect 100% of a man's labor from being taken by force. Defending him from "over enslavement" (is that 25%? 50? Define it...) is to accept that he has no right to not be enslaved. The line can always be moved. Zero tolerance can't be. It is zero or a violation, which must not be tolerated.

#Bitcoin should have zero regulation. No regulation on possession, transfer, or mining. There is no acceptable level at which my right to sound money may be violated. Otherwise, I have no true right to sound money. I'm right back at fiat, whereby I'm told how much freedom I have. That's not freedom at all.


My freedom in the US was the direct result of people who decided to no longer allow any involvement from the king. They didn't become more free by negotiating with him and settling for not having "overregulation" (whatever that even means). Starting with an undefined definition of success is not a winning strategy. I'm not sure how you're getting that I dont want to fight for freedom out of anything I have said. I've said the exact opposite. You will always end up with more tyranny by allowing any regulation of Bitcoin. They will only ever want more. The only chance of winning long term is to start from the position that you have a right that can't be violated. Allowing any level of violating will only result in future violations. I can't make that any more clear so, again, take care.


125-250k would be boring/underwhelming for me this year (not just cycle). That said, none of us know for sure what is going to happen, so what's the point in going back and forth about it? The people who get #Bitcoin know 1M is still cheap. The people who don't are still waiting for some arbitrary lower number (as if 50k isn't dirt cheap).

You're not a winner simply because you think you'll win. You're a winner only after you've won, and Bitcoin hasn't went over 250k yet. I don't see how it won't, but it hasn't.


Your responses make absolutely no sense relative to any of my points so I will go ahead and end the conversation. Thanks, and take care.


You should use procedure to remove government entirely. But you only have noncompliance as an option if procedure doesn't work.


I'm not saying you shouldn't defend freedom, I'm saying you should accept NO regulations at all. Maximum freedom. Your post said you were fighting against overregulation. That implies that you are accepting some regulations. My point is that allowing any involvement will always trend TOWARD less freedom, not more. Government has no business AT ALL in Bitcoin. Not in mining, custody, or trade. None. Allowing any involvement at all will eventually make you lose.


I don't think you are getting my point at all.


Enough people have to either fight back, escape, or deal with not being free. Sorry, but compromising and allowing regulation will only result in creep toward more regulations. Abusers never stop unless you have a zero tolerance policy. Besides, what is and isn't overregulation is subjective, which is why the creep always happens. Zero is objective.


I'm not seeing how you would prevent such a regime from over regulating or banning anything then. You have nothing to gain by making requests of authoritarian regimes to respect your freedom. Taking it (which was my point) is your only option. That's why we call them authoritarian. There is no asking or compromise. They do what they want.


You don't have to ask permission. You can absolutely choose to not comply. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences. We will have to choose between definite slavery or potential consequences.


Any regulation is overregulation. This is why you'll ultimately fail. Your stance must be ZERO. Any amount of compromise will mean you've ultimately lost. It will never stop.


I should have specified Primal, but I was curious if it does actually serve a purpose at a client level.

And that's actually my point. It's an obscure concept. I have no way of knowing what it means to you. The zap is pretty clear. You sent me value. A heart icon, as you demonstrated, can mean anything. I've always thought it was a useless metric.

An example is hearting a post about kittens being tortured. Does someone like kitten torture or did they just like that the post was bringing awareness to the fact that the kitten torture is happening?

I guess it's cool for those who don't zap, but it means nothing to me.


Pirates don't have wealth, they have loot. They're thieves.
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Pirates don't have wealth, they have loot. They're thieves.


Does the heart button serve any functional purpose on Nostr or the client? Is this up to the individual client?

If not, I'd prefer to be able to turn it off for the notes I see. I just use the zap button if I "like" a post. In fact, I'd be okay if my own notes didn't have it. It literally serves no purpose for me unless feeds are somehow using it.


Tagging people in Primal is not good.


Will #Bitcoin scratch offs become a thing? lol


bItCoIn Is VoLaTiLe

I've been, in a volatile way, getting wealthier since I started saving in #Bitcoin.

GoLd Is StAbLe

I was, in a stable way, becoming poorer when I saved in #gold.


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In a goofy dumb ass way.


It's immoral even it weren't illegal. My word is my highest value. Can't imagine selling out like that.


All else aside, the guy is funny.


THEY CAN HAVE A HEARING ON DEEZ NUTS.

I WON'T COMPLY WITH ANY VIOLATIONS OF MY BITCOIN RIGHTS.


Interestingly, I don't care about rewards programs for the most part anymore. I order a lot of cigars so I do use the points they give me, but I don't go into debt for them (even if only temporarily) like I used to. I just bought sats with points I got toward the end of my credit card days. Do the same with the interest I still get on my fiat bill/job checking account.

Either way, it's all going into #Bitcoin. I don't know if that ultimately matters or not but it makes me smile.


I say the same thing. I'm not making the same mistake today I made ten years ago. I don't know why people draw the arbitrary line of "missing it." It is far from over.


Pleb reporting for duty.

I'm not fucking selling. Goods and services only for me.


Pass.


Yes, that's the best way to penalize and deter them in my opinion.