provocative, but i’m curious about this topic
too much thrashing? not enough reuse? tough to build consensus on common infrastructure/libraries? general communication overhead?
oh yeah, when people have different ideas and approaches i think “competing tools” is good/healthy. explore more space to find the best patterns
i just worry/wonder how much “reinventing the wheel” is happening. if it’s intentional, great! if it’s for lack of communication/knowledge sharing i’m wondering if there are ways to improve these kinds of things.
i’m noticing several projects in nostr going after similar goals who don’t seem to be collaborating. i’m not sure if that’s for perceived competition, a very different approach to the problem spaces, or general lack of communication about project goals.
with open source software i would expect more collaboration. if you’re building something in nostr i’m curious why you may not be collaborating with others building similar/relevant stuff.
are you in touch with @JeffG on his latest? i need to catch up to learn more, but it’s a nostr private messaging project aiming at fixing some problems that the current ecosystem of nostr DMs has
oh yeah, i’m not advocating going toward subscriptions. just wanted to hear more your thoughts on how the pay as you go might work in practice. it seems like a good/underexplored idea.
iirc the keychat website showed something that looked like messaging channels instead of a feed. are you mostly designing toward private messaging?
if public do you think a given publisher should be paying all/multiple relays? do you run a relay that accepts this kind of message+ecash? do you imagine the relay operator is usually also a mint or do you imagine those as typically very different functions?
what if bitcoin is the social technology and nostr is the public commons infrastructure that enables it to reach more people?
#ideasfromtheedge cc @Max
i’m intrigued by the pay as you go model instead of subscriptions to monetize relays. have you done more writing about this idea? seems generally applicable throughout the ecosystem. i think of it like a zap for the relay?
should reach relay get a bit of ecash? how might stamp pricing work or form a market across relays? how long would storage commitments be?
i want to livestream a bitcoin trivia gameshow for fun
i did this casually yesterday on a zap.stream and we had a good time
i ask multiple choice questions and give away sats to whoever answers right/first. you show up and play to win sats. who’s in?
Nostr is good at resisting suppression of public messages
It’s not really designed to be a great private messenger/DM architecture
I know some people were working on better DM stuff on nostr (@hodlbod, others?)
Then there are different architectures/ideas like SimpleX, Keet, and maybe KeyChat coming soon.
What are the best DM/messaging tools today that fully open source, secure, and private?
Would nostr benefit from nostr-exclusive content?
I think a lot about the incentives for traditional creators and nostr doesn’t yet have them. So I suspect we need more homegrown creators/content rather than attempting to attract existing creators with large audiences elsewhere.
zaps could be meaningful to creators someday, but they’re not enough yet at today’s scale
Yeah, it could be that in the still-early days we just need more cross-posting.
But if the same content exists everywhere what’s the reason for people to come to nostr for it? The benefits are long-term, but the decisions are often made in the short-term.
When you invest your time or money somewhere you’re making a decision about your taste, preferences, what you support, and what you want to see in the world.
I like to support builders and the innovations that people bring to the world by spending my time/money on helping new projects get started or succeed just a little bit faster. But I’m still using my personal judgment/opinion. I can’t recuse myself from the outcomes as generically “just supporting innovation”.
I think a lot of the overstuffed ecosystem of startups and venture capital like to hide behind the positive vibes of “supporting innovation” to imagine they’re not responsible for the choices they make. Everyone’s time and money is limited. Spend it on what you want to see in the world.
I’ve always appreciated your dashboards, but never mentioned it so I’m fixing that with this note. :)
Great job on the dashboards!
How did you get started with this project? How do you think about the break from v1 to v2?
@Kieran 👋!
I tried zap.stream today. first off, thanks for building this. It was exactly what I needed (once I figured it all out 😝)
do you have a recommendation for where/how to host videos once they are streamed? are there any common destinations you see other people who use zap.stream publish the VOD videos?
🙏
One of the biggest challenges for professional creators on nostr is that “own your audience” takes a distant second to “grow your audience” in almost all cases
how do we improve this? how do we help creators grow their audiences on nostr?
paradoxically:
software development is both
1) the most likely human activity to be accelerated by AI
2) the least likely human activity to obsoleted by AI
If you could buy a “lottery bitcoin miner” would you?
the idea would be to help decentralization of mining/pools by appealing to a new type of hobbiest miner who is in it for the fun/lulz… not aiming for scaling/optimizing a mining business
imagine you could pay $10/month to rent a simple bitcoin miner. Plug it in to an electrical socket at your home, connect it to wifi. maybe have some gaming mechanic related to lotto ticket scratchers, but ultimately you have a very small chance to win something very big — maybe something close to a block reward or more each week
does this sound interesting? maybe it wouldn’t appeal to you, but could you imagine other people who it would appeal to? a lot of people play state lotteries. bitcoin mining has a credibly neutral “random” lottery-like reward
just sayin…
Yeah, maybe that’s a better model. I dunno what such a thing might cost, but I was assuming it might be easier to get over the hump for a new thing like this.
core idea is that paying for your electricity would be like paying for your lottery tickets, no other technical understanding/analysis required
I think a major use-case of nostr, (outside of social media) is for helping FOSS tools coordinate system activities better
e.g. wallets need a way to figure out who’s willing to accept ecash from which mints. we need metadata about the mints to “live somewhere”
i genuinely don’t see any way besides nostr. and since nostr is so critical to this use case i think stuff like this is really where nostr will shine. social media is fine, but also well served in some ways. public information about FOSS tools coordination is deeply underserved
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