Yeah, fuckin nostr clients and DMs are such a dumpster fire... Found it ND replied using coracle 

 Proof of stake meth... Sounds like something I was sent by dodgy darkweb vendors a while back... 

 nostr is full of cypherpunks and cryptoanarchists and homesteaders and christians

we don't like any of those people elsewhere... even a few here lean progressive but they are still quite business oriented like rabble, and we have our token nazi verita84 

 ask nvk about why there is a mentality of retardation in the nostr client dev community

you think i'm salty for fun? sure you do

i'm sure your fast fingers don't compensate for your slower ability to think about what is going on tho, just sayin 

 soap is full of fatty acids and sodium, so it does count as food 

 God is like a mathematical limit.

you can never touch it, but it affects everything in your world 

 lol, decrypting stuff is not the issue it's sending out messages to rando relays lol

like, seriously, come on, what the ... but then, people seem obsessed with the idea that giving your IP address in the HTTP header is less doxxing yourself than also giving your npub by authing

one gives geography. i'll let them guess which one. 

 also, guess which npub is in 99% of requests sent out by any given nostr client.

oh yeah, yours! 

 doing a ECDH derivation seems like a low hanging fruit for native code inside extensions though, has anyone considered this? or even pushing out the entire thing to native code?

why is it, anyway, that javascript engines still don't have a native sha256 hash function? or an AES (rijndael) hash function? this seems like a really simple problem yet because they still treat browsers as dumb presentation engines while constantly overloading it with GUI logic nobody bothered to provide a fast path for this 

 signing is a more expensive operation by like factor of 4 or more than deriving a decryption secret and making a cipher block stream

not wanting to see messages that have been encrypted to you is quite retarded, i mean, i don't even know how to express how retarded it is to not want to spend the cheapest amount of crypto compute on seeing what people send you

signing stuff, that's a different issue because implicitly you are also sending that out, there should be a clear delineation between actions that are secret and actions that become public or at least move to private across the connection

i admonish you guys to do some more study on cryptography and signals intelligence, please 

 look, put it this way, if someone has already breached your system, they can see all yoru encrypted messages and you are whining because the signer asks you to derive a shared secret???? 

 this is because most front end app devs have ZERO understanding of cryptography, not even the distinction between actual encryption and signing

the media has not helped this at all, by calling signatures "asymmetric encryption" bullshit. the encryption requires you to do a little computation but signatures are not encryption they are authentication, really big difference 

 sorry but this is beyond retarded

performing an action that has zero effect outside your computer should not need any permission  

 deriving shared secrets out of a message from your nsec should not require permission at all. at all.

if someone is already inside your browser or computer that's a whole separate problem to signing stuff and sending it out, i really hope you get the distinction 

 if they can get at the shared secret they probably can get at the nsec, how far separated are those two things? 

 hint: you can't derive the shared secret without the secret. it's one step. one.

security of the nsec and derived secrets is almost unity

the actual data it decrypts, that's your computer it's on, it's not being SENT ANYIWHERE ffs guys, please, get some fucking realism in your threat models

if you can't trust the computer, why you use the computer?

oh yeah, because it isn't a leaky sponge like you are trying to make it out to be, yet somehow it is secure in other ways

no, fuck you. decrypted messages are adjacent to the fucking nsec 

 i would visit mehiko to have some tequila with you 

 well, rum is ok in the cobbee also 

 probably some CDN with code it imports being blocked 

 NVK has zero credibility at this point waving around trademark registrations assuming that people don't know that you can't trademark a name

i am mere mortal, and i think you are wrong

nearest to working DMs on nostr right now is OxChat and hell if someone were to pay me to actually build stuff for nostr instead of me having to beg to VC adjacent devs trying to do social networks with shitcoin blockchains

it would have been fixed about 3 months ago 

 also, what the fuck

auth, nip-42, it's right there

relay can simply refuse to send out DM events to people who aren't authed to an npub in the messages, fucks sake is this rocket science or something? 

 "oh but you can't trust the relays"

yes but you can choose them

it's unbearably retarded how the nostr elite devs are about this shit

oh we must have double ratchet, oh we must have MLS, oh we can't do P2P so it's leaking metadata

fucks sake like anything else isn't fucking that shit up anyway? 

 i don't need funding from people who are too retarded to understand the basic principle that markets allow people to discriminate against untrustworthry vendors, and who idealise p2p network solutions in a real world where such things are impossible because of all the rentseekers holding ipv4 address ranges, who also prefer to force people into a relay architecture, aka "centralised" distributed database applications, to track them and inject bullshit into their media feed like a good old television

really, if i were to guess, the average nostr dev IQ is about 130, and i'm a 150, but i have ZERO tolerance for worshiping heroes or any of that retarded cult shit 

 there is some really spooky superstition among the in-group of nostr developers about cryptography

decryption should not require permission at all, for one thing

and authenticating to a relay you just sent 50 reqs that all contain your NPUB should not be considered doxxing yourself

these two facts are humongous pain points for users and you idiots seem to literally not understand the technology you are using 

 DMs are the blindspot of most nostr devs
nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq88h26paq26wcz4y6gf8lazaxd079m663p9409rht4sght8qq6skqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghdehhxarj945kgc369uhkxctrdpjj6un9d3shjqpqmkankw586rnfyke9ehyg6p7642xdzptpaakgdck0595syxn2dc0qm4whyu 

 i meant trademark, and i'm super sad i made that typo 

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 but "funding is available" and yet 2 years in we still don't have adequate DMs in nostr

because of little bitches like nvk and others who buy up this story that authing is doxxing yourself even though most of your REQs have your npub in them, very easy to establish a strong confidence who behind a client 

 imo they need to put a small, but very powerful nuke right into the parliament of kiev, that would definitely get some attention 

 i think that there can be a decentralised form of trademark... isn't it literally counterfeiting to put someone else's mark on your stuff? trying to dupe people into buying it when it's not what they think it is?

i don't like copyright but trademark is compatible with decentralised law imo 

 yes but obviously the origin of this is a distinctive mark

trademark has never been related to copyright, it is a claim to sell on the market with a given distinctive and identifiable signature

you could even say that the entire edifice of contract law depends on the fact that people's signatures are distinctive, and this long predates modern cryptography 

 i'm not sure that the history of trademarks goes back as far as copyright either... i'm pretty sure that it emerged in the days of the middle american century over the use of brands on cattle, and people trying to sell their sub-par cows as some highly regarded rancher's cows 

 of course, running wayland for cinnamon is a bag of shit, completely unstable, froze up and restarted, but was unresponsive

trying different kernels now with X see if this jank will not happen on an older kernel

linux kernel is so fucking bad with support for OPEN SOURCE AMD DRIVERS 

 and make it actually distinctive, that has a thing called "cachet" 

 they don't care if they get a cut out of it though, tbf 

 they are not

they are about a proxy to authenticity of the source of a product

intellectual property is just a right to claim rent, really big big difference 

 trademarks are the right to not have people pretend to be you

like your signature 

 do you buy a coca cola logo, or a fucking drink full of caffeine and caramel and phosphoric acid? with added coca extract... not to forget, that is key 

 if you want to fall down a rabbithole go research how coca cola monopolised coca extract supply (and how the actual cocaine is key to pharma industry production of anaesthetics) 

 you literally can't trademark a name, only a visual version of it, and to qualify it can't be the same as if i type it out in any common font 

 FYI you can't trademark a name

http://nishani.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/what-can-i-trademark.png

colours, marks, special styles, at best, can't just be a word made in a commonly available font. AT ALL

so, yeah, BLOCK CLOCK and BLOCKCLOCK and GitHub and github and Git Hub and gitHub nope, cannot trademark these

why do you think that microsoft's logo looked like this for a very long time:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Microsoft_logo_%281987%29.svg/1280px-Microsoft_logo_%281987%29.svg.png

see the ligature between o and s?

devices... here is an example which you can read the word "DEVICE" on the fine print on any can or bottle of coca cola:

https://graphicdesignergeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/coke-3.png

it's not even the text that can be trademarked, it has to be something visual

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp0d7r0dunvj63kya3ld0p0s6phxcx7avj6glt9uf9yp6tlwcdcnlqqsfur4jm73tkhpsft8wqy0sh76tvdsv7t3kyhnv5ltu6fw0kdlk0vgf67l6z 

 trademark is like a brand registration system

if they sold it with the exact and trademarked logo of block clock, which could be as minimal as a common font but with a simple geometric or colored shape next to it or through it or between it, then ok

but if it's not actually a violation of that obvious visible branding, and merely the name

then no

and someone is going to have egg on their face shitting on an open source DIY project like this 

 government is satan

samuel 8 

 i believe this also, within the next 30 years 

 samuel 8 clearly says that if israel takes a king they become slaves 

 satan -> slaves; God -> servants

consent is everything 

 accurate 

 this kind of meaty fax is why i follow you

i was pretty sure that most diesel engines were 100% non-electrical and the electrical things have only been added since the mid 90s to do stuff like improve its cold start and such

when i was a kid, it was normal that a diesel engine would not be stopped if it was going to go again within 20 minutes or so, because restarting the engine did damage (mostly adding tar and shit to everything) and wasted fuel... not sure exact details of why, stuff about how the fuel needs to be hot, and every last bit of cold metal the vacuum-vaporised (by the high compression ratio of the cylinders) that was not at working temperature would result in poor combustion and promote tar formation etc etc

the original ICE was diesel, and it was hard to do gasoline without adding electricity, and that means, and still means a bulky battery, and there is still really no more robust battery for starter motors even today, than acid/sulfate

lithium batteries are a joke, they barely work until they are over 27`C and from about 35`C onwards they start emitting hydrogen, which only happens with a lead acid battery when it's really fucking hot

i understand chemistry and physics and that's how i know that diesel engines, even the fancy ones in most modern european cars now, can be modified to run without one single electron of electricity, just that doing so may be more tricky with some than others, just like it used to be a nightmare to work on a Subaru with their weird engine layout 

 lead/sulfate, i mean... obviously 

 gasoline yes, since about 1995 almost all have computers

diesel i think they started in the late noughties or early teenies 

 put it this way, i worked on a CT50 copy china made engine, tinkered with the electrics, and yes, gasoline engines require a spark, diesel no... but there was ZERO digital logic circuits on that bike, and this was circa 2008, everything was old school 6V analog, hard switches, solenoids, etc.

seriously, those who understand, will get it when i say that diesel engines will come back in a big way for utility transport when there is too much frequency of CMEs and the gagnetic shield of the earth goes through its' flip

it's going to be so bad that even electrical devices underground will still need some tin foil to stop the gamma from toasting the ICs 

 See, I was in Australia and my grandfather swore by diesel golfs. And yeah the main way to know it's computer controlled is the lower case i 

 truly little tanks those cars

i got to drive a fancy yuppie golf GT back in 2003, man, that thing had such stable suspension, it was like driving a train 

 Yeah. But imagine how valuable one becomes in a global geomagnetic disaster...

It would be worth getting a brand new, custom cast and machined engine made IMO. The chassis can outlast several engines I'm sure. 

 i was at Atlantis and i saw this stuff and i never heard about anyone talking trash about it

something shady going on behind this i'm sure 

 the clock is expensive because they spend so much on lawyers 

 supposedly the bullshit relates to trademark but that's got nothing to do with copyright 

 i always CC0 or unlicense whenever i get a say in it

i'm more concerned about it getting patented than someone else using it

someone else using it would be an honor 

 i just flat out do not want someone patenting my literal work

the rest idgaf, if i made something useful that someone can make more hay from good, it's between them and God whether they give me some credit for my work 

 public domain guarantees that the same as GPL

i prefer it to just be public domain because businesses see it as a utility instead of a rentseeking opportunity that is being "DENIED" 

 yeah, it's really stupid though

the worst thing is patents... the more things we invent and public domain the less things can patent 

 why though? because being visible makes you a target?

that's silly, you will never make an impact on the world if nobody saw it 

 yeah, i get the odd ding with my joints and lately a chronic problem with ringworm but avoiding wheat stops the dermatitis herpeteformis, which turns out as i learned recently to be a strong indicator that i have celiac (which i think is actually an autoimmune disease caused by DPT vaccines)

i can say that mine has got a lot better but like you say, have to avoid all grains, minimise sugars and avoid modified starches and artificial sweeteners are super toxic for the kidneys, it helps to add potassium (i just add potassium chloride to my sea salt) and i went through about a month of taking about half a teaspoon of both unrefined sea salt and potassium chloride at least a "espresso shot teaspoon" of each, which is about half a teaspoon actually

you also have to obsessively drink more water, because part of the problem is that the kidneys are not working well, and the toxic shit in the blood continues to damage it so diluting it helps it eliminate

and what else hmmm

i am pretty sure peripheral neuropathy is largely caused by a specific, common but not common in "WASP" genetics (ie english/german/french/spanish/nordic) adaptation to chronic high blood sugar which is to polymerise the glucose into amylose, the same stuff associated with alzheimers, it's a hydrophobic starch polymer and i believe what it does is interfere with the mobility of neurotransmitters through synapses, causing them to overload the receiving side when the neurotransmitters manage to get through the blockage caused by the amylose

for which reason i also am curious to research more and experiment with ways to increase the amount of amylase in the blood, i tried Yohimbe which i think helped a bit... and i'm pretty sure that there is stuff in cannabis that alters sugar metabolism and insulin, and i also can say that the red colors in red fruits, grapes, berries, etc, i think they also help reduce the problem, which suggests that it's an excessive oxidation problem, which fits with the sugar stuff

i can also say that i finally managed to do a full 4 day fast once a few months back and i went into full ketosis which was kinda scary but that seemed to dramatically improve my condition almost overnight 

 yeah, statins definitely are associated with it, and i will just repeat, acesulfame K and sucralose both definitely contribute to it, supposedly artificial sweeteners reduce blood sugar but guess what - most of them are nephrotoxic, which is just as bad as too much sugar (kidney damage)

just look up what happens to people who eat too much liquorice... yeah... kidney damage... and stevia glycosides are closely related and many of the artificial sweeteners work by a similar structure or mechanism, and so they of course mostly all are hard on the kidneys 

 yeah, i already stopped using sweeteners a long time ago in coffee, maybe decades, but that's not nearly the bad stuff, that's benign compared to maltodextrin, man, i swear that shit makes me have severe kidney strain

for years now my coffee thing has been espresso shots

but btw, maybe you didn't know this but there is a lot of (caramelised) sugar in coffee

i really became aware of it when i switched to a milk diet because the milk doesn't cause oral bacteria to grow, but then i have some coffee and next day i'm still noticing all that activity going on 

 well, there's two things

one, is it contains sugar, about maybe equal to 1/5th of a teaspoon in every cup, maybe a little more, it is caramels though, so it's something between sugar and starch

the other thing is that paraxanthine, the main active metabolic byproduct of caffeine metabolism by the liver actually stimulates the conversion of fats to sugar, so it definitely does raise blood sugar levels, just not so much as actual sugars, but not zero, as you can see considering the two points, probably a cup of coffee is equal in blood sugar rise to 2tsp of sugar, and then you put another tsp on top... 

 most people do though, i see them all the time... here in madeira it is standard to put about half a teaspoon of sugar into an espresso shot, known as a "bica", to the point where it's so common they just give you the sugar with an espresso shot, and a spoon to mix it in 

 water is very leaky

better to burrow into solid rock than try to build a hermetic bubble IMO, just sayin 

 i can't see the event, where did it get published? 

 if you can see it, you have it... broadcast it for us, because we can see where you put your notes so you will share it 

 an actually useful thing that clients colud do for this case is to broadcast when you quote/reply/boost a post 

 nostr.band doesn't know the event id

i just looked at your relay list

it's very long 

 it took me about 3 minutes to add all your relays to my app relay in nostrudel, and then i saw it