Oddbean new post about login | logout If alcohol is so bad for you, then why did Jesus turn water into wine? If it’s good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for me. Being sober is essentially blasphemy.
amen
“Praise the lord by imbibing.” — Libations 6:9
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The word of the lord.
pouring one out for our saviour right now
Jesus didn’t die on the cross for us to be sober.
unfollowed with extreme prejudice
Nah don’t talk like that about Jesus because these are the things that called stew pour some for the dead God is living God
Maybe it was grape juice and ppl got sugar high, it was wedding and celebration, maybe it wasn’t wine it was something different
Well, a lot of people are functional addicts, and there’s a problem that we could only interact with people when you’re drunk, drinking is not good once in a while I believe it’s okay , most couples, and most people can’t even have a relationship without some alcohol, or they can’t even have intimacy without alcohol
Water, Sugar and Yest. I'll be waiting for my nostr branded beer 🍺.
Jesus also walked over water. Orrrrrr was it wine? Enjoy your drink! 🍷
A story from a drunken man
You talking about the Bible?
For example
Alcohol was good back then because if you drank the water you died from Dysentery (see Oregon Trail).
Did Jesus turn dirty water into clean water? No. He turned it into wine, at a wedding… like 600+ liters of wine… It’s clear JC was trying to party.
They couldn't conceive of clean water back then. But they did understand that they didn't die after drinking booze. Plus, it was fun so two birds with one stone.
Well, I sure have the feeling that I’m dying when drinking booze lately. I wish I was 18 years old again.
This checks out.
If this a parody on modern politics/extreme takes?
Drink whatever you want but don't put yourself or others in danger. It's always good to keep your wits about you.
Everything in moderation
life was very different 2,000 years ago. most of the people then died young by our standards and didn’t have to worry so much about the long term affects of alcohol. in the long run, alcohol is a shitcoin. quit before it ruins your health. peace.
Hard to argue with this logic, good sir. I salute you 🫡
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lol Being sober is only for the weak? ^^
No 😉
I’m one helluva blaspheme then 😂😂😂
Drinking and parties and whipping bankers WWJD
@Hunger game Feasting is not fasting to simply solve old argument and no beverage industry unlike Johnny walker advertising in Jesus time and change water to wine on demand on invited wedding end up in divorce crisis due to poverty. Don’t fool yourself in age of genocide regardless of medical genocide or other genocide in history of genocide before and after Christ.
its enough to just like getting high. you don't have to make a whole religious rationalization out of it.
Alcohol doesn’t get you high.
lol OK bro
Have you ever had alcohol..?
devoted alcoholic for 15 years casual drinker for another 15 if you think simple sugars don't get you high youre probably pretty alienated from your bodily sensations. or just making shit up 🤨 alcohol is one of the most basic carbohydrates.
Most alcoholic beverages contain carbohydrates, but alcohol itself is not a carbohydrate. https://www.joinreframeapp.com/blog-post/the-truth-about-alcohol-and-carbohydrates
tell me you never tried Absinthe without telling me you never tried Absinthe 😅
You need the real deal from Prague, not the BS they sell in America. I bought an absinthe kit that was a legit bottle, the slotted spoon for the sugar cube, and a special glass. I break it out on special occasions.
The human liver is evil and needs to be punished. - Old Testament Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Praise to salvation in a can! - New Testament
If you are turning to religion to justify drug usage, it sounds like a stretch. Sorry.
Alcohol in His day was remarkably weak compared to alcohol today, and the Bible condemns drunkenness. Frankly, I see no point in alcohol. Smells like crap, supposedly tastes like crap, poisons your liver... All to temporarily escape your troubles. Never had a drop, never will. If people enjoy it, that's their choice but I'll never be able to understand it.
This is a baptist tradition u assume true bc the boomer pastor told u it, but is not accurate. Reread this miracle account. Only the servants knew what he did. Master of the ceremony tells the groom u bring out the good wine first and the cheap wine second, but Jesus wine was the better. u bring out the good wine BEFORE people aare buzzed so they appreciate it and the cheap after when they are past caring. Drunken-Ness is not acceptable but repeating a biblically inaccurate traditional baptist line is damaging.
Quality does not mean that it's stronger. This could mean the flavors is better. It's not damaging, the world would be way better off without alcohol. I can tell you that much right now. While y'all fry your brains on that literal poison (includes weed), you're not doing anything productive in your life or in society. It is supreme weakness if you must fall back on alcohol in the face of difficulty. Escape the prison and find your way to freedom.
I'm simply saying don't use the bible as ure backup for this opinion because it doesn't back you up. Drunkenness is a sin. Alcohol consumption isnt.
It does back it up, actually. There are passages that talk about being sober (and not just in mind). Sure, a sip of wine at Christmas or other festivities isn't bad, but nine times out of ten, alcohol consumption goes far beyond that.
Scripture prohibits drunkenness, plus when Jesus said this, he said it in context, because people were doing so much sacrifices like blood sacrifices, I believe that he was speaking in a metaphor, and probably was talking about grape juice, …..
Jesus turned (some) water into wine because he understood scarcity & human nature. Excellent marketing really, since we're still here talking about it, and folks pay a huge premium for wine over water these days. 😏
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In the third day after Jesus began His ministry, He attended a wedding in Cana of Galilee along with His mother, Mary, and His disciples. During the celebration, the hosts ran out of wine, which was a significant oversight for such an event. Noticing this, Mary approached Jesus and informed Him of the situation. Jesus initially responded that His hour had not yet come, but Mary's faith compelled her to instruct the servants to do whatever Jesus said. Jesus then directed the servants to fill six stone jars with water. Once filled to the brim, He instructed them to draw some out and deliver it to the master of the banquet. As they did, the water miraculously transformed into wine—remarkably better than what had been served previously. The master of the banquet, unaware of the miracle's source, praised the bridegroom for saving the best wine for last. This miracle not only demonstrated Jesus's divine power but also served to affirm His disciples' faith in Him.
Before modern times, drinking water was often risky. Efficient water filtration methods didn’t exist, making it nearly impossible to store and keep water clean, especially in southern regions. In contrast, wine was safer. The following passage from the Bible supports this idea: “Be no longer a drinker of water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities.” So, you’re absolutely right.
This seems legit. nostr:note12x3jnefta3fxazztz5hgygrlshzevxnt56xg92a69j9mmzanyxcsu6l2n7
Reality is for people that can't handle drugs! LOL
getting drunk is a sin according to the Bible (God's word)
lol....yeah that's all right for the blue eyed christ crew... as for the nappy headed rastas and their Christ in his Kingly character, they say never trust those who don't use the herb as it is the healing of the nation --- the Bible tells us so. Funny how different cultures think differently about their biblical readings...
Atheism fixes this.
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Because they didn't have clean water back then, diluted wine was safer to drink. The question is: Why didn't Jesus miraculously produce a water purification plant?
Replied to this on X and didn’t get a response, but drinking alcohol and saving in bitcoin is an obvious contradiction. One drink can disrupt your metabolism for up to 72 hours... it also disrupts sleep quality and increases cortisol. Drinking alcohol is high time preference behavior. If you want to experience the bright orange future you should treat your body like your bitcoin stack. Bible verses don’t change hard science.
And you're sure that the Bible isn't a plot by Big Alcohol to sell more wine?
They had less than half of you estimated lifetime.
Everything in moderation, including moderation
My family has been selling alcohol, traditional british real ale, for over 200 years Markets hardly slowing down... Ie people demand it The health dis-benefits are getting clearer and clearer though, so long-term I think that's a threat to the business
