how is nostr cool? i am going to publish this note to my personal relay ONLY. however, thanks to several clients that have implemented the gossip model, many users will see this note even though it doesn't exist on the relays that they use. then, once they start interacting with it, the note will then be rebroadcasted to their relays, propagating my note around the nostr protocol, decentralizing my originally centralized content. 😲
Also I just rebroadcast it through my relays just because I could
The first Amethyst reply blasts it to their own relays, which usually are the large ones :)
How about other interactions such as likes?
I think it's just comments, boosts, and quotes.
Cool as shit. Doing gods work with that feature!
THAT GOT ME A LITTLE EXCITED YES
Which clients do gossip? And are there any steps to make your relay compatibile?
Lume, Coracle, Iris, Snort, Gossip. You don't need to do anything.
@damus will have it soon as well
do you know if nostrudel is included?
Can you explain how to set it up?
im just using my own personal relay that doesn't allow writing to, besides a few npubs for my wife and i to use. nothing overly special there. im sure a few people have added my personal relay, but they can't write to it. anyways, to get it to work, people just need to use a client that supports the gossip model and my note will be pulled in for them to view.
Thanks for the explanation, sounds like an awesome thing to learn in a workshop, step guide or tutorial. I would pay serious sats for it as a not technical person because I realised lately how important a good setup is.
very annoying when you are building a relay tho
That is so cool! Thank you for the lesson. I guess itll exist on my own relay on my start OS now too!
Start9 is a great choice to run your own relay.
It really is such a wonderful os. Running it on an old thinkpad. Absolutely love it.
Looks like you self reposted for good measure.
At this point hours later it's already been blasted everywhere. People that missed it earlier can now see how cool it was.
Is this not bad for privacy?
all data on nostr is public?
So are there no private relays? What if i wanted to create one for just me and my wife to use? Everything will go public because of gossip?
My relay is private
Can anyone read from it though?
nostr:nevent1qqszsvjgn5t09jl5cxy5zguzgrq9pw39gq02zlvwgwkjhc0hygnn8zqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzq0mhp4ja8fmy48zuk5p6uy37vtk8tx9dqdwcxm32sy8nsaa8gkeyqvzqqqqqqyhy475l
You can have a private relay that only certain npubs can write to, which is what mine is, and only my wife and I can write to it. However, everyone can read from it.
Which relay software did you use for this? I set up a personal node without auth, many others started using it unprompted and I blew through my bandwidth quota! Had to turn it off.
Mine is LAN only 😎
Well yeah, if it's blocked by a NAT or a firewall, sure. I specifically route for mine to be accessible from the outside world.
Cool. Is there a way to have it so noone else can read from your own relay?
Doesn't this mean every relay will end up a copy of every post. Won't that make the data requirements for hosting a relay prohibitively expensive for most, thus centralising relays into the hands of big tech firms in the long term if Nostr does become popular?
Neeto
nostr:nevent1qqszm2859e860lle8kv5p2k3vl2vcydcxtk7lfmvzwgptdvprs2fvpcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qgsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqrqsqqqqqpcyfmq3
this note is half-way to Alpha Centuri by now
We need a Nostr relay in space!
Someone tell Elon he's missing a revenue stream if he doesn't offer virtual server hosting built in to his Starlink satellites...😜😁😆
As we say here in Brazil...
É SOBRE ISSO!
(It is about that!)
#nostr #gossip #esobreisso #brasil #nostrbr
nostr:nevent1qqszm2859e860lle8kv5p2k3vl2vcydcxtk7lfmvzwgptdvprs2fvpcprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqgsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqrqsqqqqqpdwexvx
I guess that means Primal is doing gossip now?
I don't believe so yet, but this note has now been broadcast everywhere.
Not only by the Gossip model (which is very nice and more clients should adopt it yes). I know that @brugeman is really trying to fetch everything with nostr.band ;-)
Our relay may hide the absence of gossip implementation in clients, so I wonder if I should turn the relay off to support this small relays movement. Although at this point with rebroadcasting etc it might not make much of a difference.
*outbox
and people can find it because you advertise your personal relay, and note that you probably didn't think about this but they can spam your relay to oblivion because of this
being technically correct on technical matters does count
Is it possible to run a relay on a Raspberrypi? If it is i will run one!
100% possible depends on ur tech expertise
I am pretty tech savvy! I will spin up a relay and contribute to this marvelous protocol!
nobody to stop u pick n compile one for ARM pi
check my other posts
non-tech users using start9 package app
Your fridge must be full of notes no?
I think someone purged them all last evening when setting the table for dinner 😂
This post makes me hard
Hot.
DOUG WILSON is always hot. #NOSTR is too
On Amethyst, you can rebroadcast without interacting.
Now I understand gossip
At this rate, gonna be a decentralized expert before long 😜
This is the way. If you have questions, just ask.
is this propagation propaganda? 😲
So you did exactly what original nostr idea was trying to avoid: full replication of every note on every relay?
Yes.
Does this prohibit the possibility of being able to delete (or edit) notes on Nostr in the foreseeable future. Also won't relays need vast amounts of storage to hold copies of every post on Nostr. Rather like a blockchain
Can someone explain to me what the gossip model is please? In simple terms how is it different to the original Nostr relay model.
Thanks
Clients fetch notes and events from user's relays based on the user's that you follow instead of the relays that you're explicitly using.
If a client reposts illegal eg copyrighted content to another relay, won't that relay owner now become an accomplice to the crime and legally accountable for its distribution? I foresee legal complications for automatically reposting things from one relay to the next.
It's possible. I'm not a lawyer and am just a guy they rolls his face across a keyboard.
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