Hey Nostr, we are working on improving the onboarding experience within Primal, and could use your help. Please shill us the best accounts to follow in the following categories: art bitcoin finance fitness food fun & memes gaming human rights music news nostr photography sports tech travel Also shill us any categories we didn’t cover that already have good content. Our criteria for suggested accounts to follow: the account needs to be actively posting high signal content on nostr. Our current working list is available below. Please tell us who we missed: https://listr.lol/npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg
Great initiative guys. I like to suggest some big categories. 1. Entrepreneurship 2. Business lessons and tips 3. Personality development You can add me @Men ☕ in personality development, 😁 Soon will do research and suggest some in each category. Give me some time.
I second this! 🙌🏼 All of them, especially personal development! 🙌🏼✨ You can add me to personal development as well if you would like @daniella Maybe also #spirituality (any faith) or #consciousness which are topics that do come up in relation to Bitcoin in the community as well Thanks ✨
I still say to follow everyone who you find curious 👀 Because whether you hate em or love em It’s all a beautiful spectrum of humanity And bots And death 💀 Dearth More ….
Sports: @sportstrNFL @sportstrMLB @sportstrncaambb Its a project I just started this weekend. Its purely just for me to get some sports on my feed and is just fetching some rss feeds. It aint much but I am hoping to expand on it. https://github.com/jbrauck-unchained/sportstr also @Global Sports Central does great content #sportstr
This is very needed to widen the scope of discussions🏆great work. I do art. Will stay in touch. KINGS. https://image.nostr.build/f12f2b1ad0f32672300bcf1f047b40d5c1c5423ef03f34c7dc4eefba6dc67700.jpg
How to add someone to the list?
Art: @Urzeitshop I post PaleoArt of dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures by various artists.
Perhaps this would be useful to find accounts: https://docs.nostr.wine/api/classification
Good stuff. Privacy & security would be a good category to add. I regularly post high signal in this category.
Will there be any categories for feet? Asking on behalf of @Derek Ross
🤣🤣🤣 Best ever 🤣🤣🤣
Bitcoin: @Spirit of Satoshi
I intent to develop the XR VR art category . I will also try to make integrate some real time 3d view integrated in nostr clients 😉
I’m the bird and Roman history guy. I already called shotgun.
@BitcoinDiscGolf for sports, #discgolf
#gold or precious metals in general.
"human rights" are a subversive antichrist commie thing so maybe nix that - better to call it liberty/sovereignty if you dont want it to turn into tranny-surgery fundraiser.
Gardening / homesteading would be nice. Any easy way to do this on amethyst? I want to scroll through my follows and select all that fit.
What about “shitposting”? I’m a high signal in there /s 🤣 Seriously, FOSS would be a good category
Yessss 😀😀😀
Category: #Bitcoin (you could also create an #AI category) Account: @Spirit of Satoshi
For gaming: @Stitch (he's getting things ready to post again, as he's moving things to nostr)
Actually, I'll poke him to be more active, even before the transition isn't done.
For fun, #tardstr is a great hashtag.
GM Semangat💪🏻Primal❤️🔥 https://m.primal.net/HmKf.jpg
Fitness: … me, new to Nostr/Primal but insanely excited to post some quality content here as an exercise physiologist/coach/educator
Music @WASTOIDS @Wavlake Music Feed
#nostrfr qui verriez vous dans ces listes de la communauté francophone pour mettre un peu de visibilité et aider les nouveaux ? nostr:nevent1qqs02z3h8kajqm2qa9y7jls23ne9vdxn7nq74mzd57vsejrttsykgngppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzqy36ltnarpa6xmtdmnvhm062e3v6allzg0mcykf0lre9a4temucxqvzqqqqqqyk9tyh8
Maybe some local language categories other than English, like Frenchies. We are are small but strong community and it could facilitate access to new nostrichian Some leader : @JohnOnchain (dev) @bitcoin-fr (press) @Jacques (podcaster) @urban (podcaster) And some other if you want
👀👇 nostr:nevent1qqs02z3h8kajqm2qa9y7jls23ne9vdxn7nq74mzd57vsejrttsykgngpvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33v4jxgwtvwqurg73cdf6hxut4dfa8yetrwd6ku6npxfuxxutddfkrqctydfjx5dne8p6kz6mpdgunxvn9dfckzu3cde6ng0mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2q3qzga04e73s7ard4kaektaha9vckdwll3y8auztyhl3uj764ua7vrqxpqqqqqqzw0c03t
@agichoote aka MemyselfandI make and post great abstract art :)
Check my photographers on nostr list https://listr.lol/npub1vjl6n2llukcc6pe3am2hkwqh8twzh2ymlp7pdrdfq5tlqg08y26sd7ygzx/30000/naddr1qq4xc6tnw3ez6cmxvvcnwd3svvkkzcmx8ykngde4xgknscnpvgknwe33v3jnxdesxqmrseqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgq3qvjl6n2llukcc6pe3am2hkwqh8twzh2ymlp7pdrdfq5tlqg08y26sxpqqqp6nqvh9vgf
Food: @Food52 @31482f49 @Mayor Guy Fieri @Bon Appétit @SAVEUR Gaming: @SteamDeckHQ @Phil Spencer @PlayStation @Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 @Rockstar Games @Xbox @Bethesda @Bungie @Ubisoft @Nintendo of America @Polygon Sports: @Men in Blazers @NBA @MLS @Major League Baseball @ESPN Tech: @Ars Technica @AlternativeTo @f6a93100 @Y Combinator @0ccf37f4 @The Verge @ef9bc3b8 @1c9767b4 @9to5Mac US Government News @Department of Defense 🇺🇸 @U.S. Department of Energy @Justice Department @U.S. Department of Education @HealthCare.gov @United States Space Force
Food: @lilloe
I don't know if I fall under a category, but I would be happy to help welcome newcomers 💜
General Education STEM Education Nostr Education Bitcoin Education @TheSchoolofBitcoin ^ Minecraft Roblox Anime Manga Permaculture Horticulture Nature Freedom OSS FOSS SelfHosting Networking Programming Security Cyber-Security Privacy @Ava for these 3 at least ^ More to come I'm sure.
Well done everybody contributing to this thread. Really needed imo and awesome to see people sharing their interests too. 💜🫂🙏 https://m.primal.net/HmOZ.png
Art - @isolabell.art 🎨 Food - @BenJustman (wine) Human Rights - @ayelen, @Alex Li , @anchek , @lyuda_kozlovska Music - @manlikekweks Travel - @laura Bitcoin - @Federico Rivi
for Bitcoin & Nostr : @bhavik for Biology Lectures: @biologyclasses started making Biology college lectures on NOSTR ) npub1x0y67rdadlm76pwpgeh5vcawnad4u43utgduh698nn3ucwv98dmqlxmfc0
👋 Spirituality and Bitcoin
Philosophy - @Gigi, @erikcason, @Jeff Booth, @alanbwt, @knutsvanholm, @TomerStrolight (+ perhaps myself)
Bitcoin Circular Economy - @ltngstore, @Mapletrade, @SweetSats, @Voltage, @Blockstream, @isolabell.art 🎨, @BtcPins, @Start9
Podcasts/podcasting - @TheGuySwann, @walker, @BitcoinInfinityShow, @preston, @Ben Wehrman 🎙⚡️🥩, @petermccormack, @saifedean
🙏💜 Excellent company right there!
Permaculture - @rev.hodl, @jwadd Films/filmmaking - @cinemuck, @MaxDeMarco, @kineticfinance, @alana, @joenakamoto Design - @NoGood ✌️, @Asanoha Yoga? Self-development? AI? BTW for some reason Primal completely refused the post all of this in one note.
Looks like tagging @hbhgardens (also in Permaculture) Made Primal break for me for some reason
Thanks homie!
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Consider our Bitcoin page @tw_bitcoin We collect precious gems of tweets from Bitcoin Twitter and share it here in nostr and twitter for the plebs to experience 'Bitgasm'.
We do kombucha
for sports @Global Sports Central
Hello Marko, I'd throw our hat in the ring. We travel the world, run a german travel blog and youtube channel. #travel
I brinda you real & raw travel adventures. If that's your thing give me a follow #PilgartExplores #travel
Your work is awesome! Just added you! 🫡
Thank you brother and right bck at you 🫡
@Oshi @thebtcco @satscoffee @Mapletrade
Thank you fine sir! 🫂
ANIME ART: @Anime Waifu Daily⚡ Music: @Ainsley @Sara Jade Plants: @Fern Bitcoin: @Natalia @bitcoinekasi @isabella Travel: @kineticfinance Tech: @brugeman Photo: @Malos10 @Karine Studio Nostr: @garden_variety_jess @TheGrinder @Lou Art: @🦄⚡️
Not shilling any categories yet, but I'm hoping that down the road, some of those categories (sports, news, art) will have enough content to justify breaking them into subcategories.
Art: @Enrico Design: @Karnage @NoGood ✌️ @nielliesmons @Jordan Eskovitz Photography: @HodlHomestead Law: @Aaron Daniel Businesses/ Goods and Services: @Mapletrade @LeatherMint @Golden Tallow @SweetSats
Instead of hardcoding starter accounts, we should work toward traversing lists/labels/topics based on WoT (maybe bootstrapped by a static list).
There is no WOT yet without starter auto-follows, or categorized suggested follows. Primal is rightly incrementally improving by going the latter. What I’d like to see on @damus is a powerful search on onboarding that asks “what are you must excited about”. If the person types “knitting”, the dozen knitting profiles are returned with option to follow. cc @nielliesmons @rob
For sure, you always need to bootstrap. And Coracle currently uses static lists too, it's a fine first step. But it would be amazing to see these bootstrap lists turned into a "explore" tool which opens up the network based on dynamic trust networks.
This was my idea behind crowd funded classifications that are published publicly via labels. The problem is the classification work you’re asking for is expensive (if you use a 3rd party) or time consuming (to build it yourself) and nobody is willing to pay for it.
WoT and a seed user npub (inviter) would be a great start
this is something that invites would help resolve... they could see from their inviters' WoT immediately
THIS
Here is the user story. Shout out to @The: Daniel⚡️ for inspiring discussion at nostrville on my favorite user story thus far https://github.com/damus-io/damus/issues/1696
Coracle has something very similar to this (pubkeys, relays, groups, rather than topics). https://coracle.us-southeast-1.linodeobjects.com/invites.mov
it's a client side thing though, just a matter of an invite link with onboarding flow and and immediate view of that feed while they spin up their identity need an easy flow for nos2x type tool - it doesn't have a keygenerator in it last i recall using it... alby has a master key seed generation scheme but that's invite only, so, yeah i think if you want to promote onboarding you need to fork nos2x and add a better visual and put a generator and backup word key thing
yes just should add... WoT was the killer feature that made it really hard for me to switch to nostrudel because i needed outbox model, and i miss the almost working NIP-42 as well make outbox model for coracle and tighten up NIP-42 and i'll be back
You keep saying coracle doesn't do outbox, but... it does. What in particular is missing?
when i use it with my relay's chat bot, which often doesn't have even a profile published to the relay, i get all kinds of funny things happening with DMs, and the NIP-42 often takes a minute to actually go through i wrote a chat flow that asks the user to reply with a challenge text and it lets me auth on chat in 10 seconds i've written a tool that knows how to respond to a NIP-42 challenge auth envelope, and it does it instantly, it usually takes a minute or more, way way longer than i have the patience for to do testing the lack of NIP-42 support is almost my biggest pet peeve of all existing nostr clients out there it's SO easy to do it, but none work
Is that why my filter.nostr.wine relay keeps getting dropped on Coracle? I keep adding it, but it doesn't seem to work and eventually just disappears from the list.
ah yeah i get that one too... very often being dropped, or publishing disabled it's because the NIP-42 support is not very solid yet it's better! actually, come to think of it, it seems to work perfectly in nostrudel but nostrudel doesn't respond to my relay's auth challenges
i can only speculate that nostr.wine accepts posts signed by paid users by default no matter where they came from, and that they are not already existing in the database
@hzrd149 @Mazin question: nostrudel doesn't support my relay in development when it has auth-required in the limitation field of NIP-11 but it does work with nostr.land and nostr.wine - either of you two have any tips on how i get my relay to cooperate properly there?
Not me 🤷♂️
what relay are you running nostr.wine on? so i can try and figure out why it makes nostrudel do auth... i'm guessing maybe it's a NIP-11 thing, and i thought i'd implemented it but maybe i haven't i mean, if it's vanilla i suppose the relay info page will show
it only gives info about it being 0.3.1 what? no software field filled in in the NIP-11
doesn't say it's strfry, is it the rust one?
The backend is strfry but we run our own custom proxy socket in front for AUTH and account management (not open source).
ah, and here we see more reasons why this hasn't become widely supported thanks
i won't be renewing my nostr.wine subscription or recommending it anymore until i hear you open sourced this sprocket i can't believe what i'm reading rn
I don't understand what I'm reading, TBH. What are they doing and why is it not ideal?
you know about the direct message metadata leak problem right? we are so far away from having this solved while people are keeping necessary NIP-42 implementations under wraps it's short term thinking about their own gain and zero thought about the bigger picture for the protocol and its future, completely unnecessary, there really isn't that many competitors out there and this kind of short cut to keeping them out is contrary to everything this stuff is supposed to be about
NIP-42 shouldn't only be a gate to paid access it should also gate access to DMs and application specific data
So, you're saying that the implementations are too narrow in scope?
i'm saying that it's an elephant in the room - free speech is fine but a reasonable layer of protection against access to privileged data - we here see a prisoner's dilemma that nobody wants to take the cost (a few days effort) to solve, which is abombinable
Ok, but none of that is the outbox model
doesn't change the fact i can't use it for testing
Yeah, but I can't fix outbox if I don't know what's wrong with it, you didn't answer my question
it isn't contacting my relay even though it's in the relay list - the only entry even it looks like the relay list in coracle still works by the old relay lists and not NIP-65 in/outbox lists, to me, that's why i said it it only worked well when i ran an instance and locked it to my relay
the NIP-42 worked better in the custom instance situation too, like sometimes as quick as 10 seconds or less to auth
Cool, I'll look into both those things
Exactly!
So what you’re saying is that you’d like your WoT to help you curate the list of categories. And you’d like your WoT to curate a list of user accounts for each category. This is PRECISELY what DCoSL was built to do. The proof of concept already exists as a desktop app, and @kinjo is doing excellent work rebuilding it as a webapp. Stay tuned!
Memes: npub19cql0qvn3n8t0mx40hnstlurvkatke7r8wjpfg6zvt2vdd3ttkfq66hgvc @nostrmeme
This would be great to help build a more general audience. I think right now it's a real echo chamber that would put many off. Adding curation options on entry would also help those who don't want a totally unfiltered environment. On my first hour on here I saw some extreme shit that would turn many away. Most people still want some kind of moderation and giving them control over that from the get-go (rather than algorithms) would get more on board.
I'm the biggest shower account on nostr 🙋♂️
Wine Section Needed 🍷👀 nostr:note1759rw0dmypk5p62fa9lq4r8j2c6d8axpatkymfuepnyxkhqfv3xs6mup5z
Follow me!
Need a gardening / homesteading section. @rev.hodl
#farmupdate for my documents
Discover nostr 🔶👀 nostr:note1759rw0dmypk5p62fa9lq4r8j2c6d8axpatkymfuepnyxkhqfv3xs6mup5z
I’d like to put myself forward for art! I not only post about my pottery, I try to teach a little about the process when I do. I’ll put myself forward for food, as well. Probably food and art are my most consistent fields of original posts. More suggestions: (Non exhaustive lists, I might pop back in with more later, and more adds for other lists) Art: @flomontoya @Kanuto @Endcape @isolabell.art 🎨 @50c5c98c @karo @Lydia @Enrico Food: @FarmerTbone @ewelina @Queen ₿ I think that if art and photography will be separate categories, gardening/permaculture and nature could be considered separate as well. I would normally consider photography as part of art. But for photography and videography as distinct: @muneomi @a7bbc310 @hes ⚡️ @Nosnevets @HodlHomestead Bitcoin: @TheGuySwann @LynAlden
Thanks @reltbracco 💞
Thank you 🧡🚀
👆👆👆 This post deserves #introductions and #grownostr so people can give non-Bitcoin follows right away. #plebchain #follow
@jackspirko posts lots of good posts about bitcoin, lifestyle, preparedness, and general information. He has a podcast too
Im happy to take position of chief cake lady #midnightbaker 😉🍰🧁 I’m surprised no one has mentioned @bitpopart yet. Should definitely be included in the art category 👌
Yes, check out my art 🎨
#cats
put a new category: #weirdstr
Proof of work BTC art here 🎨🖌️😅 https://image.nostr.build/9e44c64ac32dc9205aa632b0f7f1d5066a6ae8b2e7dc668c6686484716930433.jpg
Science category
Add #hispano (users that post in Spanish) @Lou @Igno⚡ @negr0 @🦢 Cardxyz 🦬 @Genri 🇨🇺 @BlueMoon @Azorcode Sigan ampliando la lista chicos Hagamos la comunidad hispana grande
Gracias por la mención bro 🫂🤙🏻 Agrego a @marcelo y @Don Hackote
Oh, olvide a algunos, son varios 😅 @johnny @andreadcorreia @nos.social @lunaticoin Muchos que se me siguen quedando
Gracias por etiquetarme! Aquí los míos: @flix @Cyph3rp9nk @lunaticoin
Yo por acá, saludos
Gracias Bro @am no había visto esa mención porque apunto a otro perfil mío de azor jeje pero igual gracias lo mismo digo que te sigan a ti un abrazo 🫂
Más adelante me dejas saber el nuevo user 🫡
Es el mismo @Azorcode solo que cuando le das el arrobado aparecen 2 y el que tengo activo es el que tiene este avatar. Igual acá esta mi npub : npub1zypevnu7njgdlfx6xq8thsewqzfrxggu7rhp2ane2vsym7lddyjqu67x87 Gracias 🙏
weird category put me into it 😅
For travel 🧡🗺️☀️🤙 ... check the hashtag # Uncharted ... if you like 😁🤘!
They are aware and are currently building a new list of recommended profiles. Post your suggestions here: nostr:note1759rw0dmypk5p62fa9lq4r8j2c6d8axpatkymfuepnyxkhqfv3xs6mup5z