Oddbean new post about login | logout Nostr is not the problem. OUR STENCH IS THE PROBLEM 😭 https://image.nostr.build/56f281e909fbc2f49bd4ba3f46f462d4bca9e9d70ad193c5c1e7606dceef3594.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1440x956&blurhash=r7R3WYM%7B-%3Bt7-%3Bxu-%3Bxuxu-%3BRjRjWBRjayWBofWBayayWBj%40ofj%5BoffQj%5BD*t7oft7j%5BWBoeRkj%5B%7EqRjM%7BofM%7BayRjj%5BWBM%7Boft7fQj%5BWBWBayfQ&x=427df703e984cdf7cfbd631e22776f7e945bed41e2ac3a5bdb7f022c1d521099
Hacker.news commenters are retarded
Same with Reddit
Their loss ✌️
Blow it out your ass, Bogwog
I logged in to get laid but everybody talks about bitcoin
TIL nostr is a booty call protocol
Wanna see my private key?
Talk dirty
talk doity
DMs are open 😆
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Wait, I thought we talk about your private key?
... Yes. "private key"
Send nodes
Okay here is my bit pic: https://image.nostr.build/d7d74650c9c67902175aae5dbd0496fffef87bf6a8966f287738883a81ad1a73.jpg
hope you weren't getting shilled lies like I found on Twitter today https://m.primal.net/HVSq.png
Hey I was talking about the 13 month calendar last week. I can talk about non-bitcoin things sometimes 😂
99.9% of people here can't go all January without using the word bitcoin or referring to it metaphorically. And that would be a great start, but we also need feature for nostr that don't center around bitcoin. Fat chance I that happening.
Bitcoin is a feature, not a bug
Is your whole family on nostr? Why not? It's not a bug and a bug at the same time.
No but everyone on Nostr is my family. The take posted in the screenshot by Gigi is the mental attitude of a 6 year old child, extreme low IQ take or extrem high emotional take because of vested interests in what they believe to be a competitor to Bitcoin (there is none). Nostr doesn't need you but you need Nostr, what applies to Bitcoin applies mostly to Nostr as it is the social protocol on top of it. "I'm not going to use Email because Tomlinson just wrote some mundane stuff in his first ones rererere "
Hard time taking in most of that but mainly "Nostr doesn't need you but you need nostr" Pretty sure nostr is just code sitting without humans using it as humans make all the things they interact with, actually work as intended. A faucet, without a human letting water flow through it is just a pile of metal and plastic. Only has use and meaning because we as humans give it to the objective when interacting with it. Would be interesting to see what nostr would be without all of us....
No, you took this far out of how I mean it. It does not need YOU specifically, if all you do is complain about it's content. There are people who need it and want it. So there are two simple solutions i propose: - adopt a mindset with a little less ego and start asking why do people post so much on Bitcoin here. Maybe even propose the Idea to your mind that there might be something to learn. Something or some angle to view it that you have not seen yet. - post content which is not about Bitcoin, if it is valid content I will drop a like, 80% of the posts I like are not about Bitcoin When I wrote YOU above I don't mean you Nostronaut but a generaliziation of the critic mentioned in the screenshot. Complaining, crying is easy, creating and changing is hard.
Nostr 100% does not need me. This is proven fact. Tbh, I have no clue why or how I even have followers here.... I just be noting and zapping. 🤷 Solution 1 is a daily thing for me. Always learning and ask why to everything. Ego? More just curious about the world and I need to use ? more at the end of sentences. Any form of communication is not my strength. I definitely do solution 2 and post non bitcoin content. Complaining, crying, and playing the victim roll will always be the easy paths but I see this person as correct and of free will to make what ever choices they want. As a half breed, bit-normie, Nostr is labeled as "the bitcoin zone". Its like an episode of the twilight zone, but about a new currency called bitcoin and the evil government, for regular folks when they join... So from their shoes, i can see why they don't want what they build, to be attached to that kind of energy.
Yeah I can get behind that point of view, but let me assure you the third or fourth post of the person complaining about bitcoin will be a post about shitcoins, I've seen this before and I actually tried to post less about it for this exact reason you mentioned but in reality they just want you to bend the knee 9/10 times and that's why I tell them to kindly go fuck themselfs
yeah, this kind of factional nonsense is a recurring cycle in the lifetimes of protocols and platforms think of all the fights that go on between microsoft and apple fans since the beginning lol almost certainly there will be a shitcoiner "fork" of nostr but probably the gulf will not be very wide technically, just some small things that keep the networks apart i'm a bitcoin is money guy but i also know distributed systems theory and there is a place for pBFT in the nostr back end stack and that's what shitcoin nostr is probably gonna look like (in fact i'm probably building some part of it lol)
if nostr isn't about talking about whatever you want, then i must have missed the point even if that somehow happened that i didn't think about how i save my money, i'm sure some whiny bitch would complain about carnivore diet, conspiracy theories, toxic masculinity, potty mouth, christianity, new agers, have i missed anyone?
Sounds like the offended swallowed an ocean of salt. Maybe it’s his own stench that he’s caught a whiff of?
The Nostr is probably like a tone down version of 4Chan. They are mainly tech savvy people. Cool part is there are a lot of really smart people here willing to help others. It reminds me of the mid 90's internet when we were slinging *.HTML code in notepad to *.FTP our file and pics to our 5MB web space to host a webpage.
Not the first time someone has noted my stench.
They'll sing a different tune in a couple years. Until then, we build. nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qdergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsxpqqqqqqzyz09e2
One persons opinion 🤷♂️
I having a feeling the bitcoin marketing team is going to go wild after the ETFs launch. They'll change their opinions, because others will be doing the legwork for us along with NgU.
Nostr is easier to find than Bitcoin Twitter. Soon enough they will come because of Bitcoin & not despite it being here. In 4 years time we'll be here helping people sell their ETF shares to acquire & custody actual UTxOs. These HNW people will sell items of value for sats on the Nostr marketplace. Controllable UTxOs will fetch a premium on ETF derived prices. It's going to be wild!
Someone has to be first. It was either Bitcoiners or pig farmers.
I love the smell of Bitcoin in the morning.....Smells like Victory
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"A poor carpenter blames his tools." https://media.tenor.com/VuS1QJ4zn8sAAAAM/the-three-stooges-moe.gif #[1]
I LOVE THE SMELL OF #NOSTR IN THE MORNING nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qdergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsxpqqqqqqzyz09e2
What a pussy
gfy bogwog5. hfsp.
Your post is creating a buzz. Added to the https://nostraco.in/hot feed
Pretty normal that in this early stage of Nostr we don't have many "Cooking with grandma" content or whatever those punks are looking for instead. The people that are on here understand why they're here and why it does relate to bitcoin. They're both top tier freedom technologies so ofcourse they complement each other, but those shit for brains don't get it yet and would rather get their fill by an algorithmic feeding system.
Perfectly stated.
If you can smell the stench, then you're standing close to a bitcoiner. And you should take the orange pill.
Doesn't like the smell of Money, must be a Commie
Funny, it’s the reason why I love nostr.. My Bitcoin community 🤙💜🫂
Have fun smelling poor.
Holy shit! It all makes perfect sense nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyphydppzm7m554ecwq4gsgaek2qk32atse2l4t9ks57dpms4mmhfxqcyqqqqqqge0sl32 https://image.nostr.build/adf687be65385ca8de7cf443af9225937b961ddba8f45cd9c47a48fe2ab875ed.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1170x1560&blurhash=_EFrnz01%7EUxE0M%7EA9a01%25MM%7BjYkCjYxuS4s.R*WCoLWDoc00tRD%25jZx%5DslM%7C00Mz%25fbaIAxtRk%7Eqad%25Mxus.IpxYIVt6ogfRxZR%2Bf5%3Fat8oeoeofInt7Nze%2CD%25WB-%3ANd%251&x=58affd2f1cea9616736b59fdbafa868578b333180a4e6695aad5694346622138
Smells good
Lol, God forbid having any association with Bitcoin! I'm almost glad these people self-select away from the platform entirely. They can just, idk, build their own closed community though, idiots.
When everything you are used to is broken, then what works feels incompatible with your existence.
Topic specific relays can solve this. People should have option to follow only what they choose to see.
WE WILL NOT WASH
True, the place is infested with cultists and became a little thematic circlejerk club, you guys stink. Oh the irony of posting this from from this account, a story of my life. nostr:note1724akz5lk5tutn80sf4xjg5elcxq0y8cljwh9mzu8zxc75k0k3mqad59ga
More and better contents besides the bitcoin topic are in need. The feature of inclusiveness hasn’t been well presented yet.
Is that possible to let user set a sifting list based on their own preferences?
topic specific relays might be a solution than again, I am here for the #Bitcoin content not interested in fiat centralized shit
Well, you can not represent others, shit or not depends on people’s personal preferences. Has anyone ever said Nostr only for bitcoin? Would you feel good when people say your Bitcoin content is shit?
people can say whatever they want about any kind of content. It is their right to consume and create the content they wish. Nostr is not for Bitcoin only, and I truly hope that one day it will attract a wider audience and become wildly adopted by everyone, but there is no denying that the #Bitcoin community embraced #nostr very early on and has done a lot for it.
No one denied anything, the whole conversation started with some other contents that beyond bitcoin topic are in need so that more could join here.
Agreed! I think that the zap feature is very appealing to bitcoiners, hence their activity on the platform We do not just need diverse content pn #nostr but we also need features that appeal to a winder audience
Imagine how they will feel at the next ATH. HN sour-grapes never disappointing since 2009 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600813
i occasionally find mildly helpful information on that forum but it seems like a similar crowd as reddit
It's like r/buttcoin lmao
I rub bitcoins on my skin to scare off the normies
Sounds like a solid plan!
Stinky and proud! nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygrwg6zz9hahfftnsup23q3mnv5pdz46hpj4l2ktdpfu6rhpthhwjvpsgqqqqqqs8g6stt
I've said it before, and I'll say it again--some people will learn the hard way to value their freedom. No sympathy for the willfully ignorant and arrogant at all I do think there should be topic-specific relays, though
Which is why I try to post mostly non-BTC stuff.
could have easily just said that he's ghey, no need to be so salty about it 😆
Baby-dick Reddit energy.
Proud of my stench. 😌
I love the smell of Bitcoin and NOSTR in the morning. nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdupzqmjxss3dld622uu8q25gywum9qtg4w4cv4064jmg20xsac2aam5nqvzqqqqqqyxahaym
Odorous #Nostr 🧅🐟🪠 #memestr #plebchain https://i.nostr.build/wzyJ.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=799x499&blurhash=r6GIfH%25O-I4oxxbV01t8_200ob03a*%252x%40xVD%24IU4VIU_2WHMxR%2Ba%25%25doh%7E8IA%5E%23-qM%7C%25LxwtRn%2455D*ES-%3ANKNK-%3A%25LMxA2%252fzRl-jE09G%25Lxd&x=2aab5330843ec74b00a3486660f379aa45994c09f0a04cecdb82f997db1cf710 nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspzemhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skcq3qdergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsxpqqqqqqzzzph78
HACKER NEWS BIG TECH MAXIS CAN HAVE FUN BEING DIGITAL SLAVES https://m.primal.net/HVWp.png
And they don't even know about our well buttered organs yet. #penisbutter
Imagine the stench on that 🤣 Take a big whiff
The crowd there has their pet prejudices. It is what it is.
Knowing without knowing stinks more than knowing by knowing.
It's not even a bitcoin thing, it's a maxi-thing. Sure, there are level headed and open minded individuals here, but the maxis are so fucking prominent and arrogant.. they're the ones that stink, only really appealing to like-minded people. Bitcoin is a surveillance coin, not that any maxi would ever acknowledge all the problems this causes, such as front-running and discrimination. Personally, I did once consider developing on nostr but, yes, this maxi thing "bitcoin is not crypto" shit is just so off-putting. At the moment, all I see is one big echo chamber. If you were all talking about cars, cats or cathedrals instead, that too would be just as unattractive. Want to prove me wrong? Then integrate a coin agnostic system. Let's see Lightning decred, or truly fungible options such as beam or grin. Now watch the maxi replies that prove this point of how fucking obnoxious they can be.
If it really bothers you, leave— nobody is going to change for you here, it’s a free space for people to do and say whatever they want. If you can get past that, you also can do your own thing here. Nobody can stop you from integrating decred or grin or shib. And they can’t stop you from muting obnoxious people (and at least there’s not an algorithm shoving similarly irritating info your way) 🤙
blockchain is a technique invented in the early days of distributed systems research for making a tamper resistant chain of database update bundles practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance (pBFT) is a technique that uses a 2/3 quorum and a block derived random number to select the leader in a distributed database cluster that can tolerate 1/3rd malicious nodes the Nakamoto consensus is a technique that Satoshi discovered that enabled the lowering of this threshold from 1/3 malicious nodes down to 1/2 malicious nodes, by using a partial hash collision search most shitcoins, except for monero and a few other holdouts, use a variant of pBFT that fallaciously adds "stake" as a "mechanism for security" when in fact it's only a way to limit the number of "authoritative replicas" in a pBFT - because by the cost of messages across the network, as the Cosmos project determined pretty definitively, no more than 100 can participate in such a procedure without dramatically reducing the latency of the system and causing updates to take more than 3 seconds to absorb a new block stake is not a security mechanism, it's a concurrency mutual exclusion lock for 20-100 nodes to get the role of authoritative replica bitcoin solves this problem but can't do better than 1mb/10 minutes and the simple fact is that this means that only one blockchain can be secure with more than 100 nodes in the consensus UTXOs are pseudonymous, the location of the key holder is not revealed by the spender, and anonymity is an absolute, not an achievable, mathematically possible outcome, without weakening some other aspect of the system in general this trade off eliminates the auditability of supply, and no matter what you monero fucks say, your coin does not guarantee supply, there has been multiple inflation bugs and you assholes think that doesn't matter it does. it matters a lot, because the security of a money depends on its hardness, and without hardness, it doesn't matter how private it is, it's scrip.
"in general this trade off eliminates the auditability of supply, and no matter what you monero fucks say, your coin does not guarantee supply, there has been multiple inflation bugs and you assholes think that doesn't matter" I can give you that as long as you can acknowledge that a *public* ledger will never have real privacy (transactions and values aren't hidden) and have a weaker form of anonymity (psuedonymity) than monero. You'll never do that though because you think trade offs only exist for Monero. There have also been inflation bugs in Bitcoins past. Even one that would've been undetectable by node runners that was prevented by a single honest anon. bitcoincore.org/en/2018/09/20/notice
Imagine having the balls to call someone arrogant then going on about how you’re entitled to have someone else build you a “coin agnostic” shitcoin casino for free. Either go capture some code slaves, throw down serious dough to get it done, get off your ass and do it yourself or shut the fuck up. We owe you nothing and you’re lucky you don’t get your ass kicked when you come to our events.
I'm fine with overly toxic maximalists keeping certain demographics away from here. Manifest that toxic energy. nostr:note1724akz5lk5tutn80sf4xjg5elcxq0y8cljwh9mzu8zxc75k0k3mqad59ga
Seriously, that's my primary concern for nostr adoption. Ramp up of new users should not be forced through Bitcoinfluencers. Regardless of self-serving incentives. One has to look beyond that. For example I'm forced into following bots reposting bloomerg, wsj, FT and polluting my feed by bots, because there's no organic discovery mechanism apart from ineffective tags and global feed.
Reeks of corn around here
Sometimes I think these comments on such forums are made by sour bankers or bots. I doubt they’re even real people.
These people definitely deserve bitcoin somewhere around $250k+ in my estimation
THIS!!! Speaking as a woman… “Bro-culture” is a LOT to get past. Went to Primal & saw … “Hey Nostr Bros…” & immediately felt in my tummy a sickness that turned me away. Still, I believe in goodness of humanity & will do all I can to bring more love ❤️ 💜🙏 https://image.nostr.build/35aa1e9495bd6e1c4555a403ced585734ffc58d0b8dd6d3cb9716473d41d3f11.jpg
there's also another way to put it lol https://m.primal.net/HVew.png
@jackspirko does this need attention? nostr:nevent1qqs0927mp20m2979enhcy6nfy2vlurq8jru0e8tja3wr3rv02t8mgaspr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qgsxu35yyt0mwjjh8pcz4zprhxegz69t4wr9t74vk6zne58wzh0waycrqsqqqqqpqjqum8
MALE DOMINATION IS THE PROBLEM HERE in BITCOIN In GOVERNMENTs IN POLITICS in ECONOMICS EVERYWHERE
how is possible that the US never had a female president? and if we try, we destroy her honor and reputation? 235 years and never a woman president?
btw, private email server when you are a public responsible president is not good for democracy, this affects transparency and trust in public government. even after an FBI investigation, no laws were broken this is wrong. this does not contribute to a healthy open-transparent govt. this is not good for DEMOCRACY
That’s why I share all my emails in public OPEN-TRANSPARENT EVERYTHING
we need a new framework for political systems framework for politics framework for government framework for lobby framework for the next century.
this is great https://image.nostr.build/8af3594ca60b28405b5b4debda72f59e8eabcd9e8be07b26d90cae9ab76a8fc6.jpg
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
but we need to make amends
no more exemptions https://www.justice.gov/d9/what_are_the_9_foia_exemptions.pdf
PUBLIC-OPEN-TRANSPARENT EVERYTHING and not just in America WORLDWIDE Let’s make this ACT a priority in INTERNET GOVERNANCE same level of priority as the PROTECTION/SECURITY of HUMAN/DIGITAL RIGHTS. https://www.foia.gov/faq.html#
INFORMATION is a PUBLIC GOOD
private email server for official communications IS CORRUPTION https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy
same Hunter Biden laptop emails to Ukraine / Chinese entities IS CORRUPTION https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Statement_on_the_Hunter_Biden_Emails
Two investigations: ELECTIONS 2016 / HILLARY emails / FBI ELECTIONS 2020 / BIDEN emails / CIA BOTH have same issues emails/devices/tech CORRUPTION FBI is domestic CIA is international make your own judgment
IC interference
both were IC intromissions on politics in the U.S. we need to END THIS.
the only way to fix it is OPEN TRANSPARENT EVERYTHING on the BLOCKCHAIN
👆🏻 check where those 51 former intelligence officers are now: mostly media and academy there is no difference between media/intelligence/academy/science we all can monitor (nations-states and markets) together.
without interference non-interference of any type peer-to-peer
interference distort communication
this is the problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
this is the solution nostr:note1rjk8my2hvhhgury748p5gy85jgvu2nttsjvhujj946dd0dgqpl0qelgl5f https://books-library.net/files/books-library.online-02171342Go0P8.pdf
we need a new social construct we need a new worldwide agreement new peace treaty no Westphalian. Eastphalian east-west-north-south All-together
we are locals and global citizens we have local and global responsibilities EVERYBODY
Let that stink in!
I got a ton of flak on 𝕏 for talking about Bitcoin. More recently, the negative comments have gone down significantly, so I think some progress is being made 👍
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