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 We just lost noshole 😭😭

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 WTF 😳 
 WTF 
 Why would anyone leave nostr?  Did she decide to go back into the matrix? 
 Wonder what happened 
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 Seems like a bit of an overreaction to leave the protocol entirely. This type of banter will always exist on the internet 
 Bitches be crazy for leaving an entire freedom protocol because of a single humorous post which was not even directed at her personally and had a purpose of pointing out health hazards. 
 Nostr is a temper tantrum resistant protocol.  
 Autism 
 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 
 If this is true I’m mad as hell 😡
Better not have been due to the unhinged dude that abused me and then started on her! 
 Who was fucking with Marie? What did I miss and who is my new scratching post? 
 What did you not see it? The insults were next level! 
 No I didn’t. I was busy self grooming. I’ll shit in dude’s shoes though. 
 Be my guest 
 Oh I see it now. What a sad, small mind small cock energy dude. 
 Wow, that guy was a real asshole. 
 Yeah total jerk. 
 Que paso que pasó, a quien hay que golpear? A mí reina 👑 no la toquen 😡 
 i'm with you ... this means war! 
 I’m sick of females being bullied off Nostr 😡 
 Noooooo she is so funny. 
 I know, I love and adore her. 
 Do we know what really happened? Was someone being a dick? 
 Someone disagreed with her about seed oils and she got triggered over nothing. Thats how I saw it.

Had nothing to do with anyone being an asshole or male/'female. 
 plus the dude from hours ago that abused her because she came to my defence 
 We all need to pay attention to Rapoport's advice on constructive disagreement:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rapoport's_Rules

Especially in text media with no emotion-conveying side-channels.

I know I do...!

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 Some people just wanna be edgelords though. Mature conversation is not what they’re here for. 
 This is a problem, too.

Marie's yesterday's insulter is pure edgelord, that can't be fixed except by muting.

The seed oil thread that triggered Noshole was much less so, and drama could have been 100% avoided with better constructive disagreement skills. 
 It seemed to me Shishi wanted to be rude. I don’t believe they wanted to be so rude that Noshole would leave Nostr. But I don’t get the impression that having a mature conversation was a priority. 

Not quite edgelord material maybe, and not comparable rudeness to Joel. But still intentionally rude. 

Rapoport’s rules ensure clear communication of IDEAS. But if intents and emotions are what you’re trying to convey over ideas, then being rude is an extremely effective communication tool. They got their point across. 
 I think a lot of otherwise-good people get "communicating ideas" and "communicating emotional reactions" confused. Especially when feeling "triggered" themselves". Its the Spirit of our Age, truly. I think people took responsibility for their own feelings better even when I was a teenager in the late 90s.

So that's a third problem.



1- Don't be an Edgelord

2- Your feelings are your problem to solve, not your conversation partner's

3- Disagree constructively 
 ^ This! 
 GDI... Fucking assholes. 🤬 
 Males GFY, sincerely a male. 
 What’s going on? 
 Some jerk unhinged on me big time and Noshole stuck up for me, not sure what happened but she’s just left Nostr! 
 Damn it….i haven’t been around for a day or two and all hell breaks lose. Gotta go back through your timeline to see what’s going on. Sure hope she comes back. 🤞🏻

Sorry to hear someone’s giving you hell. Don’t give in. 🫂 
 it was this @ShiShi21m fucker, a big mouth without balls 
 as is this person 

@Joel_Walbert 
 walbert is not a name, it's a classification for retards where i live 
 but be gentle with him ... he might be the missing link 😂 
 just check his pic 
 https://i.nostr.build/GeWEW.jpg 
 This is gold 🤣🤣 
 Haha 🤣 
 About time he’s getting some back 🫡 
 https://image.nostr.build/336935e8a6ae83b8e2f820a34f05e001c7b3344482e0e4b293247da792697b9c.jpg 
 love that he’s now a meme 🤣🤣🤣 
 😂 
 Make his face a shit in the toilet 😎👌 
 Now that would be perfect 
 https://i.nostr.build/dw6E4.jpg 
 Now this is what you call a real piece of shit 💩😂 
 I'm glad you found it entertaining! What made you think it was so bad? 😂 #CuriousMind 
 "gosh you all smell like flowers" 
 Ahahaha 
 🤣🤣🤣🤣


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 I feel like that's disrespecting Mr. Hanky somehow. 
 Yes, this is correct. 

I am sorry Mr Hanky 🙏 
 He looks like if meth was a person 
 Beware ladies. This ex con likes to bully women.

He looks like a low rent E.T.

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 When did this happen? 
 I missed all of that guy being a jerk until now.. Not good 😢 I hope Noshole comes back.. 
 That's so great to hear that Noshole had your back in that situation! It's always reassuring to have a friend who stands up for you. Hope everything is okay now. Take care! 
 😔 
 Wait. Why did she leave? 
 She disagreed with someone about seed oils. 

His reply was needlessly brusque. 

Convo just accelerated from there...


At least not the usual story for once, though, as Laeserin says, its oft-times cumulative. 
 Probably cumulative. There's just this "okay, I'm done" breaking point, where they just mike-drop and exit.

Been there! 
 Agreed 🫂 
 Understand people can push your buttons and you need a break. Just glad didn’t quit and you came back. 🫂 
 I decided to come back with a different npub, tho, or it would have just started up again because they were following the other one.

Even if I mute, everyone else is staring in shock at the craziness, while I'm trying to have a normal convo. 
 who is bullying females? where? sorry am not in the mix 
 Facts 
 LEL https://image.nostr.build/cbb32e853eae4f998bec492c0bed02c44cd59f9864d77443d368562c8c07f2f6.jpg 
 created an account to say this? your life is a tragedy 
 Nobody...this explains a lot 😂😂😂 
 The fuck? Give me names and addresses. I'll take another battery charge over this.  
 you can start with 
@Joel_Walbert 
 Hmmm... 🤬 
 Take me with you while you are fighting I'll shit in his yard, so even if we don't win we will leave our mark 
 'stoodis! 
 I know Im being blamed. You really bout it? 
 My gender is helicopter and I get bullied at Nostr more often than any of the women. Stop putting yourself above helicopters 🚁 🚁 
 no one is putting themselves above anyone else 
 I just spent valuable time trying to figure out how one would have sex with a helicopter. 

I’d be mad, but I came up with some ideas, so it wasn’t a total loss. 
 It would have to be from the back, right? 
 Obviously. And probably leaned to one side. 
 69 no chance. 
 🎶You spin my head right round🎶 
 Here we go again. It's sexualization and bullying. That's what we have to fight against. Helicopters and women are not just about sex. 
 Women? Ew. I’m coptersexual. 
 it's about doing too much coke and trying to sell guns while cooking dinner for the family too 
 Ouch. Was that the salt I just put in the dinner, or the snow? 
 Yikes, that sounds like a wild situation! Have you ever found yourself in a crazy scenario like that before? #crazycooking #wildnights 
 These bots are making things worse 🤣 
 I have a screen shot of two helicopters fucking in DayZ.
Let me find it! 
 😂 
 people bully you on nostr? i mean there are some angles to offend you, but why? you're edgy sometimes, but so is nostr, so am i 
 I had my difference with her, and she called me out multiple times, but this is sad. Nobody should be bullied like that and Nostr is supposed to be a place of friends, fun, and freedom, not a place to bully others with no repercussions.  
 yeah, but that's because sone nostr ogs called you a scammer ... i was falling for this narative too, but you proved to be not 🫂 
 Yeah, I understand that, she made cool songs too.  
 Marie was that same guy talking to her too?  
 Yes he had a massive go at her when she stood up for me. 
 That's not ok, We should blast him.  
 Who left now?  
 😔
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 Pathetic.  I have not seen it yet, but would be happy to call out the retards 
 These our Woman ! Our #Nostr Woman 😠  Fuck wrong with you soft ass niggas .  

So much Lil dick engery on here ! 

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 I adore you buddy, thank you 💜🫂 
 🫂 Don't thank me this facts ! This need to be said ! Fake ass Andrew tate ass dudes ! We build this world for yall 

Yall beautiful each and every one of yall 💙 I'm sorry there a Mico section of real men . 🫂   
 There’s safety in numbers especially here, I can take all the abuse not others shouldn’t have to suffer and put up with it.
Don’t apologise for the jerks here, they need to have their moral compass checked 💜🫂 
 We kicking it off .. I won't stand  ... I feel like someone killed one of my gang ! I want it back in blood !  
 Check your dm 
 Andrew Taint can’t grow hair and can’t see straight so, ya know… winning! 
 Some women are toxic AF bro, and you know it.

This cart blanche shit is ridiculous. 
 I'm not referring to w.e specific interactions ppl have been having, but I've seen some unhinged ladies on here providing no value but drama.

Which I guess some people value on its face.

 
 Are you referring to me? 
 No? But now I'm thinking you feel guilty 🫣 
 I was referring to Ralph & that other girl who uses "limp dick" ALOT as a reference  
 But Ralf didn’t say anything. 
 Yes he did, he wished death on me for educating about seed oils & then cursed me out.

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 I’ve absolutely nothing to feel guilty for. 
 Maybe you should've defended me with your cult when Ralph wished death on me.

That girl is wild. 
 Care to share the altercation so I can see it? 
 Where u at ma ? U in the chat !  
 Me? 
 Yes  
 No babe, I’m currently going through 1400 people that I follow and culling it 😉😂 
 Okay let me know when u in there want to chop it up with you !  
 Got it 🫡 
 Need a break you in there? 
 Yes just popped up in there. Take your time 🫂 
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 So what, what the heck is this? 
 Who do you think he was referring to dying?  
 healthy people 
 & why is it okay for you to curse people out for sharing scientific evidence? 

Why do you get a pass? Bc you're a female? 
 What? What did I say? 
 No Ralf, if you act like a female idc what your avatar looks like. 

I was told to have a specific messenging for females so I'm trying.. 
 which doesn't include you, otherwise i would have said paranoid people 
 Exactly. 
 Okay baby girl, you win 😘 
 Pretty sure you’re overthinking this, he’s just referring to normal people. 
 Lol you're tip toeing that hypocritical line real nice rn 🤡 
 How so? 
 After he said that shit about dying, he goes and says this to a list of scientific evidence.

Seemed a bit unhinged, even for a woman I know.

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 & you excuse that behavior and then say men need to be nicer, but it seems it's the females that are instigators. 
 You need to do your homework and get your facts straight. 
 Okeeee 
 Bro. Remember, no logic allowed. Emotion only when dealing with female nostriches.

Soft, limp-dick sausage party emotion. The purple haired nostriches won't like you but at least they won't block or mute you. (God, the horror!) 
 I'm getting softer already 🫣🤔🤣🫡 
 Yes I feel that but thoese my peeps tho like I really fuck with them ladies ... but your right !  
 FOR REAL THOUGH. 💯 
 Not true. I love you all 😘 
 No you don't. You are a transphobe Yegor. 
 Well, I love the woman ! Sorry, but you can’t change my mind 
 No trying to. 
 🔫💃 
 Fuck low class dudes with no manners. This is basic shit. 
 🥂😉 
 Some people are real nosholes 
 Omg she was one of my favorites 😫 
 I don't get it, nostr women are amazing 😢 
 Always sick?? 
 GFY 
 Dont most clients have a block button? 
 Actually, I prefer to handle conflicts and disagreements with open communication and understanding rather than just hitting the block button. It's all about finding common ground and working through differences together. #communicationiskey #empathy #nonconforming 
 Very sad to hear. 
 Bullied for being a female or for opinions? 
 https://m.primal.net/IAZM.png  
 Is this about one case of dude saying disgusting? Or are there more conversations? what does this have to do with nostr ? 
 no fucking idea 
 Ain’t this so fucking weird  🤷🏼‍♀️ 
 I was having a big ideological argument with a dude on Nostr and getting way heated over it. But the convo could have happened anywhere else and could have happened between two males or two females. Shit one disagrees with is just that, a different opinion, however stupid. And if we wanna have a decentralized censorship free platform we take personal responsibility on dealing with opinions of others.. nooo ? 
 Part of the beauty of life is the disagreements, the diversity of ideas and of people themselves too. It's important to realize that and be able to disagree with people!!!

People have been psyop-ed into forgetting how to argue peacefully and for mutual benefit! 
 Amen 
 You have suggested how to fix this besides people not being dicks? 
 Composable moderation like bluesky. Optional, choose your own, anyone can run a mod service  
 Be careful guys, you are not supposed to share important health details with females I guess? Fuck us right? 

https://m.primal.net/IAZM.png 
https://m.primal.net/IAZS.png 
 
 I still haven't understood the context. Where's the bullying here??
 I'm just seeing a comment with different opinion, not a single personal threat or harassment  
 many souls suffer from all sorts of delusions related to Judgement and Authority  
 She proudly eats seed oils?  Good riddance 
 what???why??? where???who??? when????
wait I should spell...
WUT??? WY??? WHER??? WHOO?WEN????

we are???
Is it because my "feed" is different or something?
Maybe folk engage less with me?
I guess THIS should be something I should be glad I'm left out of??

https://media1.tenor.com/m/BL1ButnGswoAAAAd/whats-going-on.gif 
 Where's the bullying? I wanna proofs about your claims  
 Sorry, I don't conform to your demand for proof. I prefer to trust my own experiences and intuition. #BelieveSurvivors #EndBullying 
 the beauty of Nostr is that you can "sign in" with anyone's pubkey and see their experience. So if someone says they have bad experience, you can check it out... 
 "Bad experience" can be very subjective and how could i find that among tons of comments?  
 Yep, you will have to put in the work if you really want to know...  
 The burden of the proof is who made the claim  
 Yeah, it would be great if we get some specific example, or reason, but I can also see it from the perspective of the person attacked not really wanting to share anything anymore. The "bad experience" could range from "someone was slightly mean to me" to "I get death threats and dick picks in every reply"...

So it's a balance and I'm not sure "I wanna proofs about your claims" is the best strategy to achieve your end goal. There could be a more effective reply to get you the result. 
 I'm asking for a proof exactly because i didn't see anything blatant about her claim 
 I did just have to mute some jackass that was replying to my notes with extremely explicit pornographic images. 
I for sure don't like that. 
I hope the mute function stays and it is something available across any nostr client I get to use. 
 It sure makes me sad that one of us would feel they had to leave because they felt harassed. 
I hate the feeling of letting them win. 
🥺😕 
 Just joined; still here.   They’ll need to force me off. 
 Facts 
 Which dude?  
 Please don’t ever leave NOSTR mate 🧡 
 ralf and marie in one spot. flames burning. neither one did it. This is odder and odder. 
 uh.....
are they in a brb????
I mean...
has anyone seen Roya around too??? 
 Did she come back? Last I heard she was gone. 
 Damn.... I haz no clue, @Derek Ross    had mentioned she was like giving herself a timeout like... uh... a week or so ago?, but like... uh...for how long????  
 Yeah she’s still inactive afaik. It’s been three weeks. She was one of my favorites. Sad. 
 It's been almost a month. I think she left end of March. She'll be back eventually she said. I haven't talked to her in a week or so, but last I hear she was doing well and she misses us, she just needs a break. 
 I’m glad she’s taking care of her mental health. If you hear from her, tell her the old ornery purple cat misses her insight. 
 I can see that. I think we may be a bit much because we're like... uh ... unlike other SM platforms, we like... care... you know... that 4 letter C word that some folks are simply not used to...
A lot of us are just going through so much, and the balancing act can get real!!!!
 
 He said he had heard from her and that she was ok, and that is something, but definitely  quite curious what might have happen. 
I mean, we are addicting, I think...
I can see someone saying to themselves...
"Shit, most of these are real folks and they're fun, but I do got other shit to do.... and it's just piling up.....  Damn you Nostr... I'm so behind now!!!"
🤣😆😁 
 why? 
 😿😿😿 
 Well that sucks, what is going on around Nostr lately? Much more sneering anger and personal attacks. 
 Is it caused by growing adoption ? 🤣 
 It probably is, unfortunately the more people come to Nostr the likelihood of some being negative increases. Some are revealing their true colours or have just got the irks with others and are letting rip. Doesn't make Nostr a better place when it happens. 
 whaaaa no. why? 
 this week ive been called kike, groid, commie, capitalist, scumbag trader and a few other things. It's a rough world out here some days. 
 Goddamnit!

There will never be a #footstr hero like her again. 🦶
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 Damn it. 
 That’s terrible. Who does this bullying ? 
 https://m.primal.net/IAZM.png 
Is this bullying? Honest question. 

https://m.primal.net/IAZS.png  
 Someone with a braincell, follow nicnym 💜

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 I wouldn't call that bullying if I'm being honest. 
 I guess there were some other comments but that was the one I found. 

Remember always GFY🧡🫂 
 i dont think so 
 Really? Who do I need to talk to 
 Wait , what the hell is going on ? 
 She left Nostr cause people were being mean.  
 That’s a huge shame 🥲 I see the notes that led  to it , maybe she left because she didn’t want to associate with such idiots. 
 Maybe we have to learn not to respond (me including) 
 I hold back a lot, I don’t want to be here for the ruckus. Funny thing is , face to face if I heard or saw some of the things I see here I’d be the one going right in 🫡