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 Anyone else play out hypothetical arguments in your mind while in the shower? Or do I need to see... 
 Wasn't there some quote or  something about you being your own best sparring partner? 😬 
 nostr:nprofile1qqspw5udc2nzw6wsj3plrrphe0343744h0ucz9e4g248chl3w8kh03qpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq3gamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7z0ykt7 Amethyst displays the interop of relays by the NIPs that are supported and a github link to the description. What if relays and clients point to nostr events that describe what is implemented and used? Then a check between the ones that overlap - if the events are different then that might signal incompatability 

https://i.nostr.build/VkiaPrlfKWergp0R.jpg 
 What stood out? 👀 
 nostr fedwiki!? this is incredibly cool nostr:note1tzxjr3h7sg502xsyyufcf0mrzma3y7z59mqwu0fkmyp4hs... 
 We have networks of users, network of relay connections, now we're going to have a network* of ideas.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizome_(philosophy) 
 So, I just searched for "Stella" and the results are all Assange and some porn star. Nice.
Should... 
 Tbh - last 4 help when profiles don't load 😂 
 GM ! 
 Gm! 😁☕ 
 How many quotenotes are too many?
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 When you break the client like  nostr:nprofile1qqs0p7e36xqs48u4mu730r7dvl9qkzv8ntg3ap5fu45k9nvrn7uw44qpy9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumtfdej8xtnrdakj7mn0wd68ytmkxyhhwucpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme084ys3y  did to Amethyst🤣🤣🫂 
 Appreciate you for not crashing it 😂 
 FYI for the people who think we at nostr:npub1s3ht77dq4zqnya8vjun5jp3p44pr794ru36d0ltxu65chljw8xj... 
 Yes, Alexandria is a Knowledge Base & reading app. The web version for interacting with knowledge, consuming and producing - enough of a justification for the kind & structure we are using. But there are so many more ways to interact with varying use cases, that's where it gets really interesting and wild. 
 need moar of that GFY energy in here 
 I order you to play "Piano Piece for David Tudor 4" by Sylvano Bussotti, sheet music provided. GFY if you play it incorrectly.

https://i.nostr.build/cuRjGdu1HfXY5VFW.jpg 
 Piano Piece for Terry Riley #1

Instructions:
Push the piano up to a wall and put the flat side flush against it. Then continue pushing into the wall. Push as hard as you can. If the piano goes through the wall, keep pushing in the same direction regardless of new obstacles and continue to push as hard as you can whether the piano is stopped against an obstacle or moving. The piece is over when you are too exhausted to push any longer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositions_1960 
 Life is either a game of keeping count or one of keeping rhythm.  Everything can be reduced to th... 
 Recognize the lines, yet take joy in coloring outside them. Have appreciation for those who can elegantly work with the lines while also momentarily pretending they don't exist, creating their own.
https://song.link/us/i/1509845608
 
 Gm node! 
 nostr:nevent1qqs846vedl2k6x3kn6lxzjt7zkpuzf9ut7kp2u977apg4y2rpqfhgwgprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yurvv438xtnrdakj7q3q8ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqxpqqqqqqz4t3p6k 
 Feel you'll be having to deal with quite a few orange suppository receivers  🫣 
 Could bad actors spin up their own relay to host illegal content in order to hurt nostr?
#asknostr  
 Community guidelines for writing to and broadcasting to our relays. Being a smaller focused community, moderation should be managable. I think that's a fair ask for anyone using our products. Also fair to ask users to help curate and identify content that is irrelevant or doesn't align with our standards. 
 Yeah, its the associated content instead of the actual related tags that come up that is a problem. 
 It feels like “suddenly” is close. 
 You feel the distant rumbling too? ✊ 
 little dicey to talk about it without trying to throw in hype. So we just point to the ideas and release when its ready. It will be fun though.
https://wikifreedia.xyz/nkbip-02/npub1m3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqhqa5sf 
 Its dual use - reduce hype AI key words and help keep healthy expectations for our client. But you're good 😄 not actually trying to be super secret 
 #tunestr 🤌🙂‍↕️🤘🔥
https://song.link/t/278335513 
 Goodnight and wabi sabi, Nostr! It feels like we're winning. I like this feeling. Let's do it aga... 
 Gn Derek! ✊ 
 I've been low key feeling a major blockage of VPN connections on the internet lately. Especially ... 
 That fee in the not too distant future when you don't need to worry about vpns being blocked on the internet because nostr is your internet 
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/006/077/so_good.jpg 
 Feel* 
 I don't see anyone new, are y'all just giving tips and welcoming imaginary new people lmfao  
 Its just the regular 10 nostr users onboarding their 10 other alts 💁 
 Knowledge is an intrinsically Rhizomic process. The "objects" of knowedge are the fruits, a trail of formalized knowledge that has been given a specific structure as papers, books etc. These objects are a transcription, a model, a representation of "knowledge itself"

Knowledge itself, beyond the produced is messy, entangled and difficult to encapsulate. Linking events together basically gives us a new axis of interaction. A map that only uses straight lines can be useful, but adding curved lines into the cartography toolbox just provides us a finer resolution to represent and navigate the territory.

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 Yes. You get it 🧠🖇️🌐🔥🤝
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 Can’t delete posts.. I’ll have to be careful lol 
 Top tiered post 👌 
 books on nostr:

Highlights can reference sentences or paragraphs. Highlights and pages can be sh... 
 Working on it with out knowledge base and ebook reader Alexandria. Everything you know regarding interacting with nostr notes, but "sections" or chapters are their own notes that compose into modular articles, also semantically searchable through embeddings.

https://wikifreedia.xyz/nkbip-01/npub1wqfzz2p880wq0tumuae9lfwyhs8uz35xd0kr34zrvrwyh3kvrzuskcqsyn

https://wikifreedia.xyz/nkbip-02/npub1m3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqhqa5sf

https://gitworkshop.dev/r/naddr1qq9yzmr90pskuerjd9ssz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmczyr7jprhgeregx7q2j4fgjmjgy0xfm34l63pqvwyf2acsd9q0mynuzqcyqqq80xg9h3fj2 
 Yep, GitCitadel is working on it.
https://highlighter.com/laeserin/1719204947236 
 you mean as a form of lightweight archiving and moving beyond the resource needs of websockets? 
 Just a nostr native way to interact with the Bible with a few extra affordances that nostr can provide.

- organize and allow for meandering through a catalogue for background context
- engage in focused discussion on a specific segment of content
- group together & compare different versions & perspectives of the same topic
 
 The problem we're trying to fix is that ctrl-f can only take you so far. Linear text, while conventional isn't the best way to organize and navigate knowledge. Sure, tacked on UX can help add functionality, but the data structure has an implication with its usage. By standardizing a data structure, any good UX is just pulling out functionality afforded by the structure instead of imposing functionality via UX. 

You interact at the level most meaningful for your task. You don't need bricks to analyze the architecture of a house or paint a wall, but if you want herringbone tiling for your kitchen you'll have to work at the level of tiles. Modular articles provide that level of grouping and introspection as an option, emphasis on option.

What pieces of existing libraries have you needed to use for your current client and why? What are they in service for, and how do they compose together to form your library? Are there other ideas that already exist that this implementation points toward, say in math and computer science? You point directly to the pieces of text involved in the synthesis of new knowledge, or you can just use the existing content verbatim as another note in your collage of notes.

Having these interactions on nostr allow for anyone to follow the trail of ideas that have been traversed and learn the same ideas for themselves. Something like that can't be afforded by a change in UX alone. 
 stay humble, WRITE CODE AND USE YOUR UPPER COGNITIVE FACULTIES 🫡👨🏼‍💻 
 nostr:nprofile1qqsvlca5x9keq5e4km8q26aqas3skkr6xdpcr6ptlxsz5xz095rglrgpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yanfv4mjucm0d5qs7amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6qgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummn9eek7cmfv9kqrx23d6 being humble 🤣
https://media1.tenor.com/m/ue-4hdSdoloAAAAC/percy-pocahontas.gif 
 nostr:nprofile1qqsdcnxssmxheed3sv4d7n7azggj3xyq6tr799dukrngfsq6emnhcpspzemhxue69uhkyetkduhxummnw3... 
 No idea 👀 
 Wait, was it nuked? 😅💀 
 Accidental nuke 🫣 
 Do y'all want to hear me on a podcast from nostr:npub1qdjn8j4gwgmkj3k5un775nq6q3q7mguv5tvajstmkds... 
 Yes! 
 Test test test 
 Amethyst says you're posting to multiple relays
https://i.nostr.build/XaWH8vegWQYxuh4r.jpg
 
 I see other directions, but for now let's stick to the article use cases to render in the Alexandria client. 
 I GET THAT IT IS WEIRD WE TALK ABOUT NOSTR SO MUCH ON NOSTR.

THIS DOES NOT REALLY HAPPEN ON CENT... 
 Brace yourself for the other stuff explosion. 
 IF A VESSEL IS MEANT FOR HOLDING LIQUID, IT SHOULD BE CAPABLE OF POURING WITHOUT MAKING A MESS

GM 
 👏👏👏 
 I would like to ask everyone to follow our nostr:nprofile1qqsggm4l0xs23qfjwnkfwf6fqcs66s3lz637gax... 
 Actually bewildered at the support 👀 
 I want to rebrand nsecbunker as "sign-via-dm"

Nostr clients like amethyst by nostr:nprofile1qqsy... 
 And
nostr:nevent1qqs8xzeg8eg9qwgntxj660x4l2vvrvxlce8xph23p79gnj62ysjd00cppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqrqsqqqqqpaljnq6 
 For anyone (like me) who didn't know what "negentropy" means.
nostr:nevent1qqs2mj6ehgv68n8zqnmnm2... 
 I had no idea either 💁 
 🔥 nostr:note17pperr7r84n6jtn0dtj07suet8kpd0d3d3e0rghnknkfezv9nvjsd7hj25 
 Maybe, if it was a single entity controlling everything on a single platform. The goal for this project is to increase access to learning for everyone. Money, collaboration and dev time just makes it happen faster. 

What happens when the most obscured and technical knowledge and implementations are explained in a multitude of ways so that anyone willing to put the work can understand? No idea, but that would be an interesting economy to be a part of. 
 I got no fucks to give today 
 For the nostr:nprofile1qqsggm4l0xs23qfjwnkfwf6fqcs66s3lz637gaxhl4nwd2vtle8rnfqprdmhxue69uhhg6r9ve... 
 I think those are two good defaults. Think an extension to that would be pulling in through relay lists 
 maybe relay feed is more appropriate? Different from your default relays, something the user may have thematically grouped together. 
 Check out the '0mtatsat' in the npub 🙏🙌 
 👋 
 the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almo... 
 Free thought you say? We're working on bringing knowledge content to nostr. We hope to enable permissioned and permissionless collaboration between groups. There's also a level of navigability and organization afforded by nostr that hasn't been exploited yet.


1) youtube videos converted into articles, using the transcript partitioned by youtube chapter and then uploaded to be navigated by other users. (near completion)

2) nostr devs putting their code on a nostr knowledge base and then new nostr devs learning by looking at implementations similar to what they are working on.


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https://wikifreedia.xyz/nkbip-02/npub1m3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqhqa5sf 
 Nostr Twitter Feed style clients aren't doing it for me anymore. 

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 We need communities, the problem is the current implementation of mixing it all in the main feed - I call it 'the prebiotic soup model', we need more isolated communities to protect from intrusion (i call it the island model). Those that travel between communities will help spread the most quality content.

nostr:nevent1qqs9ydn8xrdtp4ves9pps84ejvntawv0hyq629xxrh9e632324s6k0gpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsygxufnggdntuukccx2klflw3yyfgnzqd93lzjk7tpe5ycqdvaemuqcpsgqqqqqqsuhdjaf 
 And another wall of text in case you'd like to read more ramblings 

nostr:nevent1qqs8qkqkg6hkjpmx7hvwklpfskrzqzhlt29sdmyuetfe80ga9dygr9gprdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yurvv438xtnrdakj7q3qm3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqxpqqqqqqz5f43yk 
 Curious about the possible the use case of loose collectives that are born on nostr, looking to using nostr for the majority of communication and use organizational and planning software on nostr 🤔. Could that fit in?

nostr:nprofile1qqsd6ejdteqpvse63ntf7qz6u9yqspp4z7ymt8094urzwm0x2ceaxxgprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qguwaehxw309a6xsetrd96xzer9dshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qgnwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxtccyjmzy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddvHagjmRJY