You should do your own research instead of just collecting half-knowledge about a wannabe artificial intelligence!
############## MONEY ##############
There are no "free" messengers in this world. They all need money for employees, programmers, offices and servers.
Please always look very carefully at where the money comes from and you know who is behind it.
SimpleX Chat received 380,000 dollars from Village Global. This is the venture capital company of Jef Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect.
This means that big tech companies have already long been involved in SimpleX Chat!
See
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/simplex-chat
and
https://www.villageglobal.vc
Also involved Jack Dorsey and Asymetric Capital Partner!
Threema, on the other hand, is only paid by its users and is therefore only obligated to its users!
########### Servers #############
SimpleX Chat don´t know how many servers they have!
Then they also don't know who is behind some servers!
This provides a large attack surface for collecting metadata. The big tech companies only need the IP address and they know which user it is.
How do they do that?
85% of all smartphones use Google's Android and this sends encrypted data packets to Google every day. This means that Google knows the IP address of every user.
Amazon (online shopping monopolist in Western countries) knows the names & addresses of users (if an order was recently placed with the IP)
Microsoft (operating system monopolist worldwide) knows the IP of the home computer and Internet router.
This is the reason why it is insanely dangerous to get involved with money from big tech companies.
They don't put their money into SimpleX because the logo looks so great, but because they want a “foot in the door” and data.
PS: The same goes for Signal, they also run all their traffic through Google, Amazon, Microsoft & Cloudflare.
What does Threema's server do?
It only stores messages until they have been successfully delivered to the recipient and then deletes them again. The message is then overwritten by new messages on the server disk. This means that the deleted message cannot be recovered.
This seems to me to be a much safer way than using a service like SimpleX, where the operators don't even know who is behind their server.
And that "paper trail" with Threema is totally bullsh*t! No Threema User needs to give out any personal information = 100% anoymous!
And the ThreemaApp itself can be purchased with Bitcoin or Cash = 100% anonymous.
At some point, your message will leave your server and go through other servers that collect your MetaData.
Whether it is OpenSource or not is irrelevant, because this type of data collection is not visible in the code. The same applies to the SignalApp.
Finally learn to verify yourself instead of just parroting cheap advertising claims!
I am not a sales rep for Threema.
I´ve got some license for sale - thats all!
I offer this in many of my posts. It's amazing how long it took you to find that!
And that doesn't change the security, sophistication, and privacy of Threema either!
Up to this day, Threema is still the most secure messenger!
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3
🟨=1
🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
Up to this day, Threema is still the most secure messenger!
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3
🟨=1
🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
DM´s need to be deleteable - which is not possible at the moment.
And they shouldn´t create any metadata = the hardest part!
Messenger with a short ID and no metadata are available = it´s called Threema!
Check for yourself and visit:
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3
🟨=1
🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Ask for my Threema-ID or just contact me via nostr!
Anybody interested in buying a #Nerdminer ?
19.999 sats
each - I got 4 Nerdminers without display - like the one on the picture.
Plus cost for shipping (depending how far away you are from germany)
Just write me a message on nostr.
https://m.primal.net/KmpU.png
#BTC #Nostrmarket #4Sale #Nerdminer4sale #Classified #Kleinanzeige #zap #Sats #Miningpool #Mining #Hash #Hashrate #Mininglottery #Lottery #Plebs
No - its not an "professional security analyses" of Threema!
Everything mentioned there was already out of date when it was published. Because it refers to an old protocol that Threema no longer uses.
These are no discoveries, no scandal. Everything the author wrote was already known before and available to the public.
If you want to know what kind of nonsense it contains, you should read this very detailed article about it:
https://blog.dbrgn.ch/2023/1/14/threema/
Or Threema's public denial:
https://threema.ch/en/blog/posts/news-alleged-weaknesses-statement
Background: Threema started a bug bounty program 6 months earlier. Anyone who reports serious security bugs to Threema can receive up to CHF 10,000 as a reward.
And a student at ETH Zurich thought that it would be easy money if I simply collected all of Threema's public shortcomings and “sold” it to them.
Of course, he got nothing!
Up to this day, Threema is still the most secure messenger!
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3
🟨=1
🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
1 = NO its not = its all outdated!
2 = Which issues should that be?
3 = The ranking works very well, because everybody understands it.
Threema is unbeaten - up to this day - for nearly 12 years now!
Which #Messenger is really secure?
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
Which #Messenger is really secure?
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
Which #Messenger is really secure?
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
Threema does
NOT collect any contact information
NOT collect any metadata
NOT collect any IP-Adresses
Threema can be uses 100% anonymous = no mobilenumber or email needed.
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
Theema is based in switzerland.
And the swiss authorities and the swiss army communicate via Threema.
They would be stupid to shut down their own communication-ways!
Which #Messenger is really secure?
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license (Android only) from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning! Just contact me via nostr!
Threema does
NOT collect any contact information
NOT collect any metadata
NOT collect any IP-Adresses
Threema can be uses 100% anonymous = no mobilenumber or email needed.
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
Telegram works more like a social network. With groups up to 200.000 Users and Channels with an endless number of users!
Threema is a messenger only. And groups are limited to a maximum of 256 users!
Which #Messenger is really secure?
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 83 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time + BTC possible)
2. SimpleX Chat *= 79
3. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 77
4. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
5. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
If you want to buy Threema, you can buy a license from me and pay with Bitcoin Lightning!
Threema does
NOT collect any contact information,#
NOT collect any metadata
NOT collect any IP-Adresses
Btw:
How do you made sure that the server code, provided by SimpleX, is running on all their 1000s of relays?
A messenger is only as good as the sum of its privacy points that it makes correctly!
And SimpleX is just second best.... apart from the fact that Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates are invested in SimpleX!
ALLWAYS LOOK WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM!
There are no "free" messenger in this world!
Anybody interested in buying a #Nerdminer ?
19.999 sats
each - I got 4 Nerdminers without display - like on the picture.
Plus cost for shipping (depending how far away you are from germany)
Just write me a message on nostr.
https://m.primal.net/KmpU.png
#BTC #Nostrmarket #4Sale #Nerdminer4sale #Classified #Kleinanzeige #zap #Sats #Miningpool #Mining #Hash #Hashrate #Mininglottery #Lottery #Plebs
A few month ago somebody said that he created a million accounts on nostr and made them all follow him
Just to have a million follower on nostr!
But I can´t remember his name....
There are no "free messenger" in this world. They all need money to run.
And there is only one messenger, that costs money and it´s also the most secure one! Only Threema does NOT store any metadata nor IP-Adresses plus you can use it 100% anonymous!
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time BTC)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
Do you want to buy Threema with Bitcoin Lightning?
Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡
for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema (ANDROID only)
Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.
Chat Anonymously: No Phone Number Required
No Collection of User Data & No Ads
Guaranteed Privacy: Strong Encryption
Allways End-to-End Encrypted: Voice, Video, and Group Calls
Open Source with Regular Security Audits
Most selling Secure Messenger App!
⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema
Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores
You can download the App on their Website or use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones
Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke
For more Information visit their Website:
https://threema.ch/en/home
There are no "free messenger" in this world. They all need money to run.
And there is only one messenger, that costs money and it´s also the most secure one! Only Threema does NOT store any metadata nor IP-Adresses plus you can use it 100% anonymous!
Check it for yourself:
Visit
https://www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate:
🟩=3 🟨=1 🟥=0
Results (and where the money comes from)
1. Threema = 86 = most secure Messenger (User pays one-time BTC)
2. Signal (OTF / Brian Acton / Ex-WhatsApp) = 80
3. Session (Loki Coin & suspicious Chinese) = 77
4. Wire (Janus Fries / Ex-Skype) = 68
5. SimpleX Chat *= 67
6. Wickr (Amazon) = 61
7. Element / Matrix (Amdocs / Morris Kahn) = 56
8. Apple iMessage (Hardware sales) = 37
9. WhatsApp (Meta) = 32
10. Google Messages (Ads) = 28
11. Telegram (Putin) = 27
12. Facebook Messenger (Meta) = 26
13. Microsoft Skype =10
* SimpleX Chat got 380.000 $ from VillageGlobal.vc = Jez Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, ect. Plus Jack Dorsey and other Venture Capital Companys!
OFT = OpenTechnologyFund = US-Goverment
Just zap me ⚡7999 sats ⚡
for a licence of the secure Messenger #Threema
Threema is the messenger with rigorous data protection and rock-solid security. The chat app was developed with “Privacy by Design” as the guiding principle.
Chat Anonymously: No Phone Number Required
No Collection of User Data & No Ads
Guaranteed Privacy: Strong Encryption
Allways End-to-End Encrypted: Voice, Video, and Group Calls
Open Source with Regular Security Audits
Most selling Secure Messenger App!
⚡ Price: just 7999 sats ⚡ + no data from you will go to Threema
Regular Price 6.99 $ in the Appstores
You can download the App on their Website or use it with the google-free Version called #ThreemaLibre from F-Droid - the license is only for Android Smartphones
Questions? Just ask me.... Janneke
For more Information visit their Website:
https://threema.ch/en/home
1.
SimpleX Chat has even fewer users
2.
Anyone who makes the protection of their privacy dependent on whether others do the same has unfortunately not understood privacy and data protection.
3.
30-40% of all Threema users use the app completely anonymously = without personal data, such as mobile number!
You won't find them using the automatic search function!
The solution is very simple:
Send everyone your Threema ID and then even the “invisible ones” will contact you !
Whoever pays the musicians also determines what is played.
Threema takes a few coins once and is therefore ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY committed to its users.
You can see who is behind the other messengers above. And they will already collect your data.
Threema collects nothing!
Everybody can read about that in their transparency report on their website
https://threema.ch/en/transparencyreport
And they give out 2 Informations about a Threema-ID:
1. Date (without time) of the Threema ID’s creation
2. Date (without time) of Threema ID’s most recent login
These are the ONLY 2 Information they store!
The following information is only available if the user has chosen to use the respective optional functionality:
Only in case the user in question has chosen to link a phone number and/or email address with their Threema ID: Hash of the user’s phone number and/or email address
Only in case the user in question has chosen to use a third-party push service (and their ID was active within the last three months): Push token
So what....
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