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 Telegram will start moderating private chats after CEO’s arrest

#SimpleX

https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/5/24237254/telegram-pavel-durov-arrest-private-chats-moderation-policy-change 
 So telegram is pointless now.
Fuck France 
 No. Telegram has always been pointless 😆 
 This 
 Again, getting a Sovran Pro allows you to have your own Sovereign/ Private/Anonymous chat using Matrix with Element. No need to install anything as it already comes preinstalled.






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 What they were aiming for since forever 
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 Because he's a fiat billionaire, he was "persuaded" to cooperate.

If he had been a bitcoiner, things would have probably played out differently. 
 He is btw… 
 He needs to have the "Fuck you money".  
 Not endorsing Telegram but the only places I'm seeing the 'report' button are in group chats and channels.

I think a lot of this comes down to confusion by MSM outlets.

As I understand it, if Telegram permits you to continue the conversation from a different device, the chat is not E2E encrypted. This leaves me puzzled about the absence of the 'report' button in non-secret 1-to-1 chats. This probably won't be enough to appease the nanny state.

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 Gay 
 lol, does it mean e2ee „secret chats” to dissapear? 
 Secret chats will probably remain. If it is possible to report secret chats, I do not know. In the end there should be no difficulty one can also report abuse in secret chats. 
 If people want moderation, they know where to go. If they don't... #Nostr 
 I think a Nostr relay admin is still in power over what notes can be stored and which not. And I hope strongly, that there are many relays that do not accept content, that supports sexual abuse in any form. 
 Perhaps I am a bit negative today, but I think most of the "normal people" will applaud this instead of seeing this as another step towards dystopia... 
 Defnitly. I mean the cryptography does not change. It is insecure by design. The difference is that they use their entry to filter illegal actions now. Probably noone besides violators support sexual abuse in any kind. 
 Of course. Another bites the dust 
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 Apparently....He folded quickly. 

Surprising how easy you blackmail a pseudo-libertarian spoiled billionaire..

Too few Mandelas, Assanges, etc
 Too many Durovs on this planet..

Sad


https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/5/24237254/telegram-pavel-durov-arrest-private-chats-moderation-policy-change 
 Assange over Mandela anyday 
 It' debatable but both endured too much for their freedom struggle without folding.  
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 Sad but telegram was never a based app. 
 From the story, it looks like it will require user reporting to initiate official moderation.  I guess terrorists will be reporting each other?

"All Telegram apps have ‘Report’ buttons that let you flag illegal content for our moderators — in just a few taps."

I don't see this appeasing the surveillance state.  They want a backdoor to see all comms and be able to block content they don't approve.  This is probably just the tip of the iceberg for what's to come with Telegram.  Hopefully, what ever happens, it will be transparent for its users.  But, history has shown otherwise. 
 " They want a backdoor to see all comms and be able to block content they don't approve"

which they have with Telegram, at least the russian side

most traffic on telegram isn´t encypted anyway 
 Such apps where only build to steal your data and sell them. This is how they make their money. Remove it as fast as you can 
 Durov definitely didn't build it right...

#SovEng

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 Maybe unpopular opinion. I dont care much about piracy and drug trafficking. But I have a weak spot for child abuse and any form of human rights abuse. If I know I could do something to catch them I would. I would be happy thinking my app is a honeypot to catch them. 
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