Oddbean new post about | logout

Notes by miljan | export

 That said, I’d still prefer stuff I don’t like (and ideally can’t see without clicking a bu... 
 You can totally set that in your Primal account settings. Just go to Content Moderation and uncheck all filters in the "Don't recommend" column.  
 *deep sigh*

I feel Semi's intent here is good, but the execution is bad. He is correct, that Ony... 
 Thanks for a reasonable and nuanced take as always Derek. 🫂💜

To answer your question, Primal users can choose whether they want to see NSFW content in their feeds and/or in the trending side bar. The default is that NSFW content shows in the feeds, but not in the trending side bar. This is an easy setting for users to flip. 

We are working on a more sophisticated solution where NSFW content will be categorized on a per-note bases (not per-user basis). @𝓞𝓷𝔂𝔁.𝓥𝓲𝔁𝓮𝓷 is a perfect example of an account that posts lots of interesting content with a few occasional NSFW notes. Our new system would make it possible for her regular content to trend by default. 

A lot of criticism we get can be summarized as "why isn't Primal perfect today?!". We are building and improving things every day. Everything we've done has always been transparent. Happy to engage in good faith, but Semi obviously hasn't been willing to do that. Faking this advisory to generate outrage is obviously over the top. Excusing his behaviour looks a bit weird to me tbh.  
 NO nostr client should be shadowbannning or  censoring ANYONE.  
 Agreed. 
 You didn’t feel comfortable calling out nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zc... 
 No need to call people out in talks. However, if we are subject to a smear campaign based on blatant lies, we need to set the record straight.  
 I don’t get this behavior at all. What’s the point? If there’s some beef, talk directly to ... 
 💯 
 Remember @semisol, the originator of the Primal cEnSoRsHiP and ShAdOwBaNnInG narrative? 

Check out his latest work below. He took the time to create a fake Primal content advisory. Even put in the effort with the border gradient to make it look real. Then he got @ralf to post this and boosted to create outrage. Kinda similar playbook as the original attack a couple of months ago. 

The sad part is that many people take him seriously. We got some questions yesterday, so I’ll repeat again here. The image below is 100% FAKE. Primal does not display content advisories. 

As for @semisol, dude are you okay? Seriously concerned for you. You are a talented developer, why waste your cycles on such negativity? Find something productive to work on. This is Nostr; that level of hate does not vibe here. Pura vida. 💜☀️🫂 

https://m.primal.net/HPKR.jpg 
 Amazing talk sir, thanks!!! 
 🙏🫂 
 Indeed. Takes an exceptional person like Satoshi or a protocol 🤙

What nostr:npub1g87cqsncznk7... 
 💯 
 While listening to nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr’s pres... 
 Indeed. Having absolute power is the problem. Few can handle it. 

Protocols fix this!  
 My #Nostrasia talk (starting at 2:22:30):  

Primal’s Approach to Nostr 
- What we do 
- How we do it 
- Tradeoff analysis 
- What’s next for Primal
- Why nostr is going to win 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIOT9cYS3s&t=8550 
 "For all those guys telling us our stuffs broken, yeah we know, we see it" 🤣🫂

Keep up the ... 
 😂 🫂 🍻 
 Starting my day watching nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 in... 
 LFG 🚀 
 What are the chances this was recorded? 
 There will be a livestream and there should also be a recording after the event.  
 I am excited to watch! 🔥🔥🔥 
 🍻 
 My #Nostrasia talk is on Nov 2nd, 11am Tokyo time (main stage). Hope to see you there! 

Primal’s Approach to Nostr 

- What we do 
- How we do it 
- Tradeoff analysis 
- What’s next for Primal
- Why nostr is going to win 

https://m.primal.net/HOry.png 
 Bon séjour  
 Thank you! 
 Already here; look forward to hanging out! 
 nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr I’m unable to connect my ... 
 Thanks for reporting this! Someone from our team will reach out over a DM to investigate. 
 nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr thx for the great Android A... 
 Thanks for the feedback! 🫡

Yes, an image/media viewer is on our to-do list. We are currently working on DMs. Once that feature is out, we will hit the image viewer. Aiming to have all of it out in a few weeks.  
 I Had the same problem with Chrome 
 Thank you. Still can't repro it, but we will take a closer look!  
  nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e6... 
 Thanks very much for reporting this Artur, but I can't seem to be able to reproduce the issue. Which browser are you using?  
 I definitely preferred it. Option in settings would be great 
 🫡 
 Did nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg get rid of the auto dis... 
 We did! 

Thought that we might have overdone it with too much movement and that it was too distracting. Considering to bring it back as an option. Thoughts?  
 Let's gooo! Looking forward to having a beer  together again 🔥🔥🔥 
 Yeah, me too! Should be lit. @Marko from our team will be joining us as well.  
 I did this one 🫡😇 
 Nice work sir! 💪 
 I do not know what you mean  
 We had a bunch of cool nostrich images created by @Karnage, @walker, @Compromised and others. What's your favourite one? 

I like this one (not sure who did it): 
https://m.primal.net/HNkd.jpg 
 What's the best nostrich visual / rendering you've ever seen?  
 GM it's been 25 days since mr nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutaj... 
 That guy is a serious slacker 
 how about letting us choose our own relays? is there any plans to introduce the feature? or would... 
 You can already choose your own relays on Primal, but we haven't implemented that part of the UI on the iOS client yet. You can set your relays via the Primal web app and that will be respected by our mobile clients.  
 nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr To clarify the music gets p... 
 Yes, we are aware of this; should be fixed in the next release. 

Thanks for reporting!  
 Upgraded and all OK. What I'd like to suggest:

Can you include an upgrade-feature, so that the u... 
 We will soon start publishing our Android builds straight to Play Store (note that the .apk and source code releases will continue as well). Upgrading will be most seamless for those using Play Store, while the other two options are good for those who want more control. 

Yes, we can look into adding a "Delete Note" option. While this is merely a request for deletion, most relays do seem to respect it as far as I can tell.  
 Excellent, just upgraded and working great here. 
 🫡 
 Are you not publishing to GitHub releases anymore? 
 We are; just got delayed yesterday. Live now.  
 Nevermind about Primal being good lol

My old keypair is gigacensored.

I'm still going to use it... 
 Hey, thanks for the feedback. 

Which issue are you running into with your old keypair?  
 Cool. I'll check it out. Thanks for the heads up. 
 🍻 
 No apks on GitHub? 
 Published a bit later last night; sorry about the delay>  
 Hey Nostr, 

We have a new Primal Android build for you: 

Build: 0.18.1, Released on: Friday the 13th 👀 of October, 2023

New Features 
- Media uploads! 
- Feed design updates 
- Sunset & sunrise themes 
- Appearance settings
- New nav bar 

Fixes 
- Thread screen: main note now always shows on top 
- Empty screen caused by double taps on home tab

We are currently working on DMs; stay tuned. 

Enjoy! 🤙💜

https://primal.net/downloads 
 Should be fixed now @jack.

TESTING: We are all super-grateful for @ODELL and @MartyBent!

🙏💪💜 
 Tagging works, but the dot after the npub is still messing us up. Will fix that next.  
 I don't know why primal web won't let me mention nostr:npub1guh5grefa7vkay4ps6udxg8lrqxg2kgr3qh9n... 
 Should be fixed now @jack.

TESTING: We are all super-grateful for @ODELL and @MartyBent!

🙏💪💜 
 The only client doing this that I can recall is Primal. It automatically marks notes as trending ... 
 We've had some issues with our trending algo in the past, but this should now be resolved. All trending notes should be based on genuine engagement. Please let me know if you encounter any examples where this is not the case.  
 Just booked travel for Nostrville 2023. See you all there! 🚀

nostr:note1nkkq8xg58usr355tr8fmzcrzqfwvhyg786mh28gl7mvraazz9dsstcrqxe 
 still looking for the login feature 
 You can login via a Nostr browser extension like Alby. More login options are coming soon.  
 Solid. Here's what I observed:

- Posting new notes nearly always fails in the front end but succ... 
 That's very helpful; thank you! 

Likewise. ;)  
 LibreWolf is like the GrapheneOS of browsers (firefox based); I recommend having developers test ... 
 Yes, we just added it to our list of test browsers and will use it going forward. Aiming to have an update next week.  
 I haven't tried out all the available apps, but so far Primal has been my best Nostr experience. ... 
 🤝 
 I was trying to renote from blockstream about their note giveaway and the tab just freeze, brave ... 
 Thanks; we'll try to repro!  
 Animation looks cool! but you know what will be cool making a renote without freezing the tab. 
 We haven't seen this. Which browser do you use? What are your repro steps? Is it just selecting "Repost note"?  
 Isn’t it weird how everyone here is building the airplane while it’s flying, meanwhile on X, ... 
 🎯 
Event not found
 Yes, let's definitely chat; I'll be around!  
Event not found
 Some people have been trying to smear and outright cancel Primal lately, but creating a fake advisory notice is a new low. 

The image below is 100% fake. Primal does not display content advisories. 

nostr:note12lwhqs32mjn6lpus848426laap22nw40xt3x2g8qrhg7hw40vhzqfecg37  
Event not found
 😂 🫂

Yeah, but the flip side is that stuff is getting better quickly. Look at where all of our projects were a few months ago. We'll get it done. 💪