Oddbean new post about login | logout What is fucking crazy to me: There was no major outlier in unexpected deaths in 2020, yet lost people believe the dogshit propaganda that more than 600k people were killed and it was a once in a lifetime catastrophe. Starting in 2021 and 2022 we’ve seen a literal once in a century explosion in excess deaths, particularly in the 20-40 year age range of otherwise healthy individuals. Yet most think absolutely nothing is happening. There’s a huge indication that the vaccine has killed far more people who otherwise would’ve been fine, young, vibrant people, than COVID ever did. At the most conservative estimate of VAERS representation, it’s literally likely that there are *actually* 400-600k deaths associated with this fucking poison. How is this not genocide? nostr:note1wsd8dsedmm87h26cvwe3euj60mtjg587w6wtgqnug2r0wgs5sx0s6lr0am
Because CNN says it isn’t. Please send me my social security and Medicare. Thank you.
60 Minutes also says that Ray Epps is not a Fed. In other news, Freddie Mac is solvent and totally not a Ponzi scheme
And they smeared a modern day philosopher sage while they were doing it all! https://image.nostr.build/7f03417e8e3cc099337c859431203016484e8a5dcd33cee441d95d75e3481d80.jpg
My belief is those who orchestrated and supported the response now fall back to the position that it was an "experiment" which possibly resulted in increased death, therefore the deaths were not intentional. So they could never see it as a genocide, rather just a failed experiment. They are anti-human. They don't care if they reduce population while trying out new drugs, they care about doing it in a manner that allows them to continue....
Silenced the morticians. It’s all coming out now. https://image.nostr.build/2b0462d9f33f9e766d4f8928ca945ea8a697ac262e625169f8e00242c29b737d.jpg
Anecdotal, but I know plenty of people who said they got vaccinated and are fine. I got jabbed with Moderna. Two rounds, regrettably. Two too many given that this was a cold that only wrecked unhealthy people. I don’t have any issues other than getting old. Maybe I’m lucky and everyone I know is too. Maybe we’ll all drop dead as soon as the Wizard has no use for us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But the drug companies and tax men do actually have a use for us and aren’t all evil masterminds. I know the other vaccines have a worse track record and were rushed to fix a problem created by government, but just Occam’s razor this shit. We got more important fish to fry, right??
I also think much of the excess death is from the Orwellian closing of everything which caused people to not get proper healthcare, stress levels high, etc. this has a caused a chain of events that really messed many people up and lead them down paths to an earlier demise. vax of course included but the closing down of shit should also be counted as genocide to some degree. yet everyone was just like "ya that had to happen" it didnt and there will be a whole generation of kids that didnt socialize properly and will suffer the rest of their lives for it in some capacity. its was completely evil
VERY much the case. The majority of excess deaths in 2020 absolutely fall on the bloody hands of those who forced lockdowns, trapped people in their festering and bacteria ridden homes, and forced them to where masks that did absolutely nothing against COVID but had *strong* evidence of causing respiratory infections. Zero fucking chance that 99% of bacterial infections from constant mask wearing didn’t get labeled Covid in the medical data.
Nailed it.
So close … COVID : 19 (hear me out 🙏) COVID-19 was put out as a pandemic. People got sick & people got scared. Even without a vaccine… People were already living their lives dramatically differently than before … Stress, job losses, company losses etc… ** Maybe ** all of that Then people going back to work…. could add to the death number
There have been tons of “deaths of despair” through this whole thing that had nothing to do with the virus and everything to do with the overreaction. That’s rarely discussed.
Good point. The overreaction was worse that the actual disease
It literally helped divide the US in an “ us versus them “ mentality. I know of families who no longer speak based off how the virus was manipulated into dividing them based off their initial reactions … The stress there. Then add into politics etc. How many small businesses went out of business to find out millionaires were given money but they shut down your small business 👩💼 Well that got personal … 🤣
Personal because of biz … NOTHING will come between and my family 🥰💜🫂
The COVID response nearly drove a rift between me and my family since the fearmongering got to them. It also drove me to seek parallel systems like #bitcoin and #nostr
I think we’re all on the same page here. The government response, including coercing people to get the bullshit vaccines, printing tons of money, closing businesses, spreading fear and anxiety, has hurt and killed tons of people. Bitcoin, freedom of speech/thought, independent journalism, honest debate are all part of the solution.
I need to correlate when I went online and then off again. Not seeing the bulk spread of misinformation being put out definitely is a large part of my … yes, ignorance to some things. That’s fair. Knowing what I know about brainwashing is a direct reason I did stay offline. Possibly, that’s why I was invited here so quickly after I did eventually come back online. Someone remembers who I was. 🙏🫂🥰💜
Can you provide a source for the death rates you are claiming? I'd like to see the numbers.
It's just the basic information we know about VAERS honestly. Go through the independent studies that have done extensive research on what the multiplier of "unreported" cases are in comparison. The average is around 20-30x underreported, but the most conservative I found was a 16x. Meaning for every 1 case reported, 15 others were missed. There were about 20-30k deaths associated last I checked (been a while), which showed a massive increase in reports and events in 2021. This makes the most conservative estimate at 320k-480k. A big additional problem is the HUGE number of cases where it was absolutely clear, but doctors failed to report because they feared for their jobs. I highly suspect that the real reporting is at least half of what it should be due to fear of being attacked, fear and guilt of what they have done, and the monetary incentives to put a cherry on top. OpenVAERS.com has done a good job of simply doing the obvious task of accounting for what has been explicitly reported. https://m.primal.net/HbVv.png
Ok, but adverse event doesn't mean it was a death. And I'm not seeing a huge spike from 2020 to 2021 in young people in the CDC data. It seems overall mortality increased in just about every age group, which can be explained from COVID itself. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/451-500/db456-fig3.png
I was explicitly referring to reported deaths. Did you read the comment?
Correlation does not equal causation. Even OpenVAERS says that as a disclaimer at the bottom of their page. A LOT of people got the vaccine. Anybody that died for any reason within a certain time frame after getting the vaccine could be reported as an adverse event.
$boost Causation isn't the standard used for drug safety. That would be Insane! Irresponsible and totally unscientific. The Maximum! number of #deaths or serious #injuries allowed for a #drug to be approved for the general public is ZERO!!! The Maximum number of deaths or serious injuries allowed for a drug to stay on the market is ZERO!!! Therefore we don't use causation. We use strong suspicion or signals. Aka temporal correlations. A human life is too Precious!!! to risk on causation. It can take decades to prove causation. By then you would have millions of needless deaths and murders like we have from the so-called covid #vaccines..🤡💊💉💀😠
Correct, its unreliable, as I stated, the various independent research shows the most conservative estimate is that it underreports by a factor of 16. Do you have any research that contradicts this? Saying "its unreliable" without context is nothing but a dodge, because it's explicitly unreliable by missing the overwhelming majority of cases. If any of these institutions weren't malicious, they would do a thorough and case by case investigation of what has been reported *because that's exactly how you confirm this one way or the other.* The most alarming part of all of this is their total dismissal of something *they aren't even investigating.* To make a claim about something for which they haven't even done the **most basic investigation** of on the very reporting system created for this exact issue, is just flat lying. They cannot defend the statements they make because they have explicitly NOT investigated it. The fact that they dismiss it without any exploration is gross negligence, at best. If they think some of these have nothing to do with the vaccine, it's almost like one ought to look to find out.
covid doesnt exist bro you are talking about computer modeling as if it is reality lol.
The scary thing is, even if the MSM reported “COVID shots are killing people”, what would people do? The news cycle is already so shocking/horrifying I feel like it would just get buried. In Russia, the average person assumes that the government will intentionally harm or kill citizens for no good reason. They’re desensitized to it. I feel like that’s the direction we’re heading.
🚨 Exactly. Fear based societies are easiest to control. 1% keep us 99% arguing about the small things which keeps us distracted to where most can’t follow the money 💰 & see WHY they keep us fighting amongst one another. It’s really gross when you look at it from the world scale. 😭
I forget what comedian said this, but: They should change the term “conspiracy theory” to “spoiler-alert” Similarly, if you had told people when the shots first came out that they’d be getting 5 boosters, they would have called you an insane idiot.
I don’t think people would have called others idiots based off idea of booster shots. At least some parents wouldn’t who chose to vaccine (baby ones etc) their children, which is required in my state if they go to public school. So it’s 2024 & we have a country severely fractured based on if they chose Covid vaccine or didn’t. My hope is to get past that. THIS divide is coming on strong to be another generational divide which has been historically to keep poor from rising together against rich. Same as: religion, skin color, generational wealth, wrong side of the tracks, etc that has been used for millennia
My last comment wasn’t worded quite right. Agree 💯, we need to be avoid being divided. I don’t mean to spread negativity or any disrespect to those who got the shots. I feel like I’ve been stuck in this digital Gulag the last few years and there’s finally a platform to speak freely.
🙏🥰😊 Understand completely. I always go with most humanity does what they feel is best if/when all things being equal. Very few are truly malicious. Others have called me ignorant, etc. That’s okay. Pretty sure whoever brought me here felt the same way. They know who I am IRL & what I’ve done: and my love is always on the side of humanity and peace. Or they just wanted to see me go wild in a place that can an echo chamber. 🤣🫂💜 Time will tell.
They're all over the Internet and social media. Look them up..💀
The delta surge was summer of 2021 and Omicron surge was January 2022. So not sure why you're saying it was the vaccine when people were still getting COVID and dying from it.
Are you serious?
Yes, I don't see what's wrong with my argument. People died from COVID during these surges. I literally saw it happen while taking care of them in the hospital as an internal medicine doctor.
I lost 3 close relatives. They she’s had some kind of in going issues but in the matter of 2 weeks the three got Covid and passed
Incompetent medical care. They would have died from a common cold with incompetent medical care..😐
Kindly GFY
you first.
I won’t be so kind
I’m sorry that sounds awful.
Uyghur camps exposed in 2018-19 Propaganda machine waved hand. "This is not the genocide you are looking for". Excess deaths in 2021-22. Propaganda machine waved hand. "This is not the genocide you are looking for". Ukraine young men meat grinder, Gaza general cleansing in 2023-24 Propaganda machine waved hand. "This is not the genocide you are looking for". etc
Well said , you are spot on. No excess deaths during "the covid years" , but a fucking explosion afterwards. Irelands government actually openly admitted that there was no excess deaths at all during the covid period and chalked it all down to "a speedy vaccine rollout". Nuts.
the good news is that you know you're surrounded by zombies the bad news is you're surrounded by zombies the good news is zombies hate the light the bad news is, we're living in the dark ages but the good news is that revolutionary forces are created in the darkness
Covid isn't over until the guilty hang.
It's curious how most of the world had access to practically unlimited amounts of dirt cheap standard inactivated virus vaccines using century old technology that actually works, but the western world was only able to acquire something very expensive and highly experimental which it turns out not only doesn't work but also completely fucks the victim's capacity to produce T cells.
