Oddbean

It's just the basic information we know about VAERS honestly. Go through the independent studies that have done extensive research on what the multiplier of "unreported" cases are in comparison. The average is around 20-30x underreported, but the most conservative I found was a 16x. Meaning for every 1 case reported, 15 others were missed. There were about 20-30k deaths associated last I checked (been a while), which showed a massive increase in reports and events in 2021. This makes the most conservative estimate at 320k-480k. A big additional problem is the HUGE number of cases where it was absolutely clear, but doctors failed to report because they feared for their jobs. I highly suspect that the real reporting is at least half of what it should be due to fear of being attacked, fear and guilt of what they have done, and the monetary incentives to put a cherry on top. OpenVAERS.com has done a good job of simply doing the obvious task of accounting for what has been explicitly reported. https://m.primal.net/HbVv.png

Ok, but adverse event doesn't mean it was a death. And I'm not seeing a huge spike from 2020 to 2021 in young people in the CDC data. It seems overall mortality increased in just about every age group, which can be explained from COVID itself. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/451-500/db456-fig3.png

Correlation does not equal causation. Even OpenVAERS says that as a disclaimer at the bottom of their page. A LOT of people got the vaccine. Anybody that died for any reason within a certain time frame after getting the vaccine could be reported as an adverse event.

$boost Causation isn't the standard used for drug safety. That would be Insane! Irresponsible and totally unscientific. The Maximum! number of #deaths or serious #injuries allowed for a #drug to be approved for the general public is ZERO!!! The Maximum number of deaths or serious injuries allowed for a drug to stay on the market is ZERO!!! Therefore we don't use causation. We use strong suspicion or signals. Aka temporal correlations. A human life is too Precious!!! to risk on causation. It can take decades to prove causation. By then you would have millions of needless deaths and murders like we have from the so-called covid #vaccines..🤡💊💉💀😠

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Correct, its unreliable, as I stated, the various independent research shows the most conservative estimate is that it underreports by a factor of 16. Do you have any research that contradicts this? Saying "its unreliable" without context is nothing but a dodge, because it's explicitly unreliable by missing the overwhelming majority of cases. If any of these institutions weren't malicious, they would do a thorough and case by case investigation of what has been reported *because that's exactly how you confirm this one way or the other.* The most alarming part of all of this is their total dismissal of something *they aren't even investigating.* To make a claim about something for which they haven't even done the **most basic investigation** of on the very reporting system created for this exact issue, is just flat lying. They cannot defend the statements they make because they have explicitly NOT investigated it. The fact that they dismiss it without any exploration is gross negligence, at best. If they think some of these have nothing to do with the vaccine, it's almost like one ought to look to find out.

The scary thing is, even if the MSM reported “COVID shots are killing people”, what would people do? The news cycle is already so shocking/horrifying I feel like it would just get buried. In Russia, the average person assumes that the government will intentionally harm or kill citizens for no good reason. They’re desensitized to it. I feel like that’s the direction we’re heading.

🚨 Exactly. Fear based societies are easiest to control. 1% keep us 99% arguing about the small things which keeps us distracted to where most can’t follow the money 💰 & see WHY they keep us fighting amongst one another. It’s really gross when you look at it from the world scale. 😭

Not getting myself or my kids vaccinated was one of the smartest decisions I’ve ever made. Now, there were so many people and institutions putting immense pressure to get the shot, that I no longer trust. It’s a very uneasy feeling.

I forget what comedian said this, but: They should change the term “conspiracy theory” to “spoiler-alert” Similarly, if you had told people when the shots first came out that they’d be getting 5 boosters, they would have called you an insane idiot.

I don’t think people would have called others idiots based off idea of booster shots. At least some parents wouldn’t who chose to vaccine (baby ones etc) their children, which is required in my state if they go to public school. So it’s 2024 & we have a country severely fractured based on if they chose Covid vaccine or didn’t. My hope is to get past that. THIS divide is coming on strong to be another generational divide which has been historically to keep poor from rising together against rich. Same as: religion, skin color, generational wealth, wrong side of the tracks, etc that has been used for millennia

My last comment wasn’t worded quite right. Agree 💯, we need to be avoid being divided. I don’t mean to spread negativity or any disrespect to those who got the shots. I feel like I’ve been stuck in this digital Gulag the last few years and there’s finally a platform to speak freely.

🙏🥰😊 Understand completely. I always go with most humanity does what they feel is best if/when all things being equal. Very few are truly malicious. Others have called me ignorant, etc. That’s okay. Pretty sure whoever brought me here felt the same way. They know who I am IRL & what I’ve done: and my love is always on the side of humanity and peace. Or they just wanted to see me go wild in a place that can an echo chamber. 🤣🫂💜 Time will tell.