Yes, and so will a jury. The point you’re missing is my opinion doesn’t matter neither is yours whether you like it or not they will present their evidence and this is just what they used to get a warrant. They don’t lay out an entire case in an indictment. but again do your research on that and stop fighting with me you’re not making any sense 

 I don’t want this for them i’m looking at it as if I were a juror  in a federal case and how many jurors do you think even understand Bitcoin but they sure know what money laundering is.  None of this is good for them whether we like it or not I’m just being realistic. I think it’s possible if it turns out better than I’ll be thrilled and I will be happy to celebrate right now. It doesn’t look good. 

 They don’t care if I take their word for it or not, and they don’t care if you do either or anyone else we don’t have any control and believe it or not there are laws and things they follow when they prosecute things like this if there’s enough money in it for them or a lesson to be learned, they’re gonna do it. my original point was they could’ve done better and if they had tried harder not to thumb their nose or be so cocky or market there Black and grace transaction services would’ve been way easier to back them up 

 ......
not sure that long, unpuctuated run-on paragraph actually makes a point that relates to we were talking about.
yes indeed, they will stretch the law to try and incriminate the people they want to put away.
that why we contribute to their legal defense.

but
I was pointing out that you are taking the DOJs word re "marketing materials" and already imagining a pitch deck to Russian oligarch investors and DNM operators.
which is no doubt exactly the point of them releasing this material without any context.

what I mean is,
they DONT say that in the indictment. that is YOUR imagination. 

 Dude, your commenting on my run-on sentence. I’m using voice just fuck off. I mean it’s so stupid. You’re so wrapped up in anything but what you’re actually supposed to be talking about let me I’m gonna just ramble on here with no punctuation for a while and I hope this makes your brain feel betterbecause I’m not even gonna bother to talk to someone who is this ridiculous bye 

 call it "voice" or whatever you want.

its an impenetrable wall of text that doesn't seem to make any logical conclusion. 

 I didn’t take their word for it. They fucking posted it on Twitter and on their website I don’t have to take the DOJ Word for the marketing. you should probably get your pearls out 

 nobody is calling it "marketing material" except the DOJ.

YOU ARE TAKING THEIR WORD THAT IS WHAT IT IS, THAT IT WAS USED IN THAT WAY AND ALREADY MAKING ALL KINDS OF ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT IT.

It is a jpg on a website and we know nothing else about it.

but for some reason you find the DOJ narrative very convincing and are already ready to convict them. (although constantly protesting you'd rather it was some other way)

and yet claim to be logical and realistic.

pretty weird honestly. 

 I showed it to you. It was on their website and it was on their Twitter account countless times. I’m not taking anyone’s word for it you have no idea what you’re saying you haven’t done any of your own research and the only thing you’re focused on is grammar and pearls and other dumb shit so don’t argue with me unless you really can 

 Yeah, you did and you’re very first post. You told me to read the tornado thing. 

 That wasn't me Mel.

I repeat. I've never mentioned the Netherlands to you.

Maybe check your own snark. 

 That was where I tried to tell you that that government and the US government are not the same 

 OK, I’m done with you and even your back door. Snarkiness is obnoxious and you don’t know what you’re talking about so maybe instead of fighting me do some research yourself and then you tell me if this is some clean case that they did nothing wrong absolutely zero and should’ve never been charged by the American government. I don’t mean what you feel like they should’ve been charged in your own mind government I mean, actual real courts. 

 Once again, I’m not in love with the DOJ either but it’s fairly well-known that they spend a good amount of time putting a case together this indictment does not have all the evidence in it probably not even 1/10 of it was to get a warrant for the rest of it, they’ll put in the trial or they will use to get them to make a deal if it’s bad enough. I don’t like the American government but read any of their indictments about anything over the past couple of weeks for example they use dates and times and very seldom. Is it something they just threw together