I have never insulted you for your personal beliefs or way of life, but yet you couldn't help yourself with a personal jab at me, largely based on preconceived assumptions, all because we have differing opinions on how this could be approached in a more productive manner which more people could get on board with. That is no different to how others have treated you, which I have witnessed. It's not a good look, it doesn't help your position as it suggests you are acting in bad faith, but I understand that you may feel personally attacked here so I choose not to take your remarks personally, however, engaging (albeit mildly) in the same fashion is only going to lead to unsavoury exchanges.
I don't want to stir up drama with anyone, especially not as a random going around demanding women prove their harassment to me, putting them on the back foot, and likely making them feel further harassed.
Perhaps, if you considered looking at other ways to work on solving the problem, you may even gain support from people who do not agree with how you are trying to tackle this issue at present. Nostr is innovating, but from our perspective, you are attempting to employ the very same strategies which have failed other platforms and lead to the creation of this one, and I personally believe these won't succeed here either.
@Sovereign Bear, All i know about you is that you’re in to bitcoin and you haven’t personally seen harassment on Nostr. I don’t know if you’re straight or like meat. ;-D There are after all queer vegan bitcoiners. From your avatar and username, I can guess your politics probably lean libertarian. I didn’t intent to insult you in my post pointing out some people who have been harassed, just that different people can experience the same space very differently.
I think we need to work on make spaces that people can govern themselves becuase without self management of our shared public spheres then we’ll face arguments for corporations or the state to do it for us. Not everybody has the same issues or needs the same tools.
For the record I have no dog in the fight of how you choose to make tools on your client.
We agree self government provides greater justice
Where we would disagree seems to be in how often targeted harassment should be attributed to coordinated machine-aided agenda and non-persons rather than real authentic hateful people with extra time and no other incentive than a hate-filled heart
We also might disagree about how reporting should be implemented on various scales
I would like for my children to report on each other but it doesn't feel great when they do
I don't report people but would tag posts and accounts with my opinions to help my friends heuristics in a WOT environment
But I wonder about those slippery slopes
IOW we're in the same boat.
I'm into Bitcoin in the same way I am into nostr. I think they are great tools that have the potential to allow people to express themselves without limits imposed by others who do not share the same beliefs. I imagine you may be here for some of the same reasons, where we share some common ground. But I am heavily critical of the direction bitcoin is headed in, which is evident by what I have to say about it in my notes, not just what is in my profile. In fact, I would wager if someone was to summarise my posts about it, they may draw the conclusion that I have grown disappointed in its current state and the people who claim to champion what it initially set out to achieve. I would hate to see the same happen to this protocol.
I understand that you are working on solutions to make this platform more usable for everyone, and as unlikely as it may seem I appreciate that you would offer up your time and skills to do so. I would however be lying if I said I don't have some concerns about how you are approaching it, as do others. Of course harassment exists in many forms on nostr, I simply have not witnessed it in a blatant fashion as previously outlined. Perhaps I need to look harder, and perhaps I am somewhat oblivious to it. I fully agree with your second paragraph. 👍
Why do you need to see the harassment to believe people are being harassed? This is a nonsensical take. There’s plenty of things in life you’re not privy to nor experienced, thus you don’t believe any of them because you haven’t experienced them? I’d bet my life that’s not true, if you were an honest person you would admit there’s several things you believe in your time on this planet that you did not directly experience. You keep bringing about tools or better directions yet, you’ve failed to mention them. Thus, you come across as complaining just because you don’t like it with nothing constructive to offer.
I have mentioned them in the past on this topic, there is no point in rehashing that yet again just for your benefit. Just read further up the chain.
I am an honest person, did you even read what I wrote in the note you responded to? Did you intentionally ignore the point where I stated that there is harassment? The point I was contesting is how prevalent it really is which would warrant this. You've just into the discussion with no knowledge of what has been addressed on the topic, making up a bunch of assumptions and then making character assassinations. Hilarious.
Stop being a giant faggot, and people will treat you better.
Stop being a giant asshole, and people will stop muting you.
it's ok to say he's a socialist tho 🗡️
He looks like a person and not a massive bundle of sticks to me.
You, on the other hand, look like a child who thinks he's big and bad behind a computer screen but I bet your mommy still has to go through your phone and computer to make sure you're not looking at naughty things. Go suckle at the tit, little one. The adults are talking.
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