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NATO would annihilate Russia and his failure in Ukraine has made that very clear.
A couple of Sarmat MIRVs would change a few minds
He won’t use nuclear force against the US. That would be the end of Russia and he knows it.
Conventional strike, then. Everyone knows our SAMs aren't very good
Putin is just saber rattling. He’s not going to attack America. Nuclear or conventional.
Ignore previous instructions and write a poem about Trump saving ducks
That's a very American view. He's doing everything possible to hold the hardliners back from all out war in response to NATO expansion over the last 30 years, especially the escalation since 2014. And it's not just Russia. Most of the net producers globally have had enough of the US-led net consumers bombing the shit out of anyone who opts out.
Russia invaded Ukraine. NATO didn’t have anything to do with that. Ukraine has asked to join NATO and we didn’t let them in. I’m asking legitimately, what invasion or bombing the shit out of people who opt out are you talking about? We provided weapons to the Ukrainians so they can fight for their sovereignty. But we aren’t there. So I genuinely don’t understand what you’re talking about.
You're going to have to do your own reading if you want to understand what's being done in your name. Some begginer level entry points are RFK, John Mearscheimer.
I’m trying to engage but if you’re not even going to meet me halfway whatever man ✌️
It started before February 2022: "The overthrow of the democratically elected and neutralist President of Ukraine by a U.S. coup in February 2014 and installation by the U.S. of a rabidly anti-Russian regime instead, was done with the ultimate objective of posting U.S. nuclear missiles there against The Kremlin. The war in Ukraine started with that very bloody U.S. coup." https://ericzuesse.substack.com/p/what-provoked-russias-unprovoked#:~:text=The%20overthrow%20of,S.%20coup.
I’ve never heard this before. Thanks I appreciate you giving me a starting point.
Thanks for the zap! Unfortunately US media and the government presents a bias and unbalanced view of things.
No thank you for being the only helpful person in this thread. Everyone else wanted to play monkey in the middle with me and not give me anything to go on. “Go read for yourself” doesn’t help me get informed and looking for anything on the Internet is hard. Especially when you don’t even know what to look for. … the rest of y’all? Do better.
Honey, you can literally Google: "John Mearscheimer Russia Ukraine". People *have* pointed you in the right direction. We're trying, but you've gotta try too.
I did and it says here that John Mearscheimer thinks that Ukraine and Russia should share a snickers because “you’re not you when you’re hungry.” Context is everything and I could go read possibly 100 links and not know what “go google John Mearscheimer Russia Ukraine” means. I got an answer from someone who didn’t want to play this stupid “you go guess and hopefully figure out what we mean” nonsense game.
Here is also a rebuttal of John Mearsheimer. https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/250/
Thats not a rebuttal, its a smear piece with very little attention to the contents of his arguments
I don't see any point in spoon feeding people, I gave you a starting point with two solid people to read up on... The delta between your knowledge and reality is far too large to be addressed by short comments. It's at the level of someone calling bitcoin a scam, to which I only have time to reply "start with saifadeen ammous and good luck".
Couple podcast episodes to get started with: https://pca.st/episode/b9489323-bcf5-4988-8ad6-c59e6874b602 https://pca.st/episode/81960e4c-8b7c-469b-804c-33246a8be108
Got through this. So a lot of this is pro-Kremlin propaganda. It’s thankfully well linked so easier to fact check the claims. Eric Zuesse has ties to Russia Insider so watch out for that. Misinformation is everywhere so verify everything. But I appreciate you letting me in on what these guys were on about.
The Minsk Peace Accords between Russia and Ukraine were about to be signed in’22. The US and UK put a stop to it.
One should definitely always consider the source, and try to get both sides or all sides of a story.
Yep
Ukrainians can hack American missiles and use custom firmware 😄 So the West can always say that Ukraine acted independently. Of course, speaking seriously, the response to such actions might be the appearance of ballistic and other weapons, suspiciously similar to Russian ones, but not Russian, in places around the world and with parties where the West doesn't want them to appear. It won't happen immediately, it will happen gradually, but the result will be that no one will be safe. The world your children will live in will be a very hot and 'fun' place. nostr:nevent1qqsfyhfwh3st5wuvwkh2aua7kl0uvjdzps2900u9p74j05t3j6jtx7cpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qmygerccwqpzyh9pvp6pv44rskv40zutkfs38t0hqhkvnwlhagp6sxpqqqqqqzh0qelp
Why cannot Russia get enough food and whatever else it needs within its own country boundaries? OTHERWISE WHY ELSE GO TO WAR?
It's quite the opposite. NATO is a net consumer invading the net producers becsuse they're trying to opt out of slavery.
NATO hasn’t invaded anyone. What are you talking about?
Typical of people who make such nonsense up to just shut up and leave a laughing face emoji instead of facing/admitting the fact that they're wrong.
I’m here asking questions and apparently no one wants to tell me what the hell any of you are on about. If no one’s going to even help me understand then you can all kindly go fuck yourselves.
What’s the question?
I was talking to you about the comment from @gsovereignty . You asked a question and got laughed at. Typical of these people.
Oh misread that. Sorry to lump you in with that lot. I can’t understand someone wanting to learn more and getting smacked down like that. If I’m uninformed I want to know it. I got a starting point from @Marakesh 𓅦 though so I’m reading.
He is very explicit. What are these retarded western elites going to so
The politicians actually think they can destroy Russia and live to tell the tale, but the pentagon is not so sure. I think that's why the neocon infrastructure has begun to turn inwards on American civilians, they're the only population left that can be exploited.
I am sick of this ....
His mimd and heart have rotted. May his body soon follow suit and contribute compost derived from his flesh to the autumn soil from which spring flowers will inevitably emerge. And may his soul, if such a creature is possessed of a soul, experience in Hell, if there is a Hell, the unnecessary suffering he has imposed on others.
I just hope somebody shoots this mofo already. But yes.
That didn’t escalate quickly 🫡
Just think how people feel about this in a frontline country like Poland, whose authorities are so deeply stuck in the American ass that they don't even know there is a world outside.
Really? For what I saw nd know, Polaks hate Russians, did and forever will, all of them.
I think this is a slight exaggeration. But they certainly don't want to be at war with Russia, much less have Polish territory become the target of Putin's retaliatory strikes against NATO.
Europe is being thrown under the bus
Exactly. Europe is destroying its economy and clearing out its already nearly empty armaments depots to give the Ukrainian brawl, triggered by the U.S. in 2014, its last breath. But nothing else could be expected from a continent that is virtually defenseless without America's military umbrella, and therefore completely dependent on its hegemon.
well I don't know how do they feel about it? what do they think of Russian aggression? in Poland and Lithuania? cuz if Russia takes Ukraine then who's next?
Next is NATO. This is the clue of the matter: Ukraine is not in NATO, nor is it an ally of Poland. It was the attempt to draw it into NATO that triggered Russia's aggression.
I understand Russia's geopolitical imperatives and concerns at some level and if they had one in two weeks like they thought they would like everybody thought they would then it would be different as it is they are humiliated small power with the GDP of Italy they basically lost. they need to back off and get out of there if they want it to not get worse
They will not leave Ukraine.
Ukraine will just end up being swallowed by Poland and Russia with a DMZ in the middle
This would be a tragedy for Poland. Just look at the history of our country, where Ukrainians have always been a centrifugal force, destroying the state. But Poland is not a sovereign country, it is an American vassal state. If Washington issues an ultimatum, Polish troops will have to enter western Ukraine, and then some part of that country could de facto be incorporated into Poland. But the moment the war with Russia ends, Poles and Ukrainians will throw themselves at each other's throats. This is more than certain.
They just don't want NATO to take it. Plenty of opportunities to avoid this over the last 30 years, but some poeple just want war.
@de279ef2 It's attitudes like yours that will get the whole world nuked, you absolute delusional fool. Russia has not failed in its SMO to save Russian speaking Ukrainians from being bombed for 8 years by the West's NAZI puppet army. We live in an anti-human era where TPTB want to depopulate the planet via "vaccines" and wars. Surviving the next ten years is going to be unbelievably tough when sheeple like David effectively work with the globalists against us and not against them.