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 @a0026d72 @Springtime for Zeon (Woggy Mk II) I think WOGP wants Ourguys to not give up on women, and deep down hopes that there is a ‘good’ woman out there, somewhere that our guys can access. 
 @a0026d72 @Springtime for Zeon (Woggy Mk II) Personally, I think there are no good women out there. 50% of the population shouldn’t be needle in a haystack. If they were out there, we’d have found them by now. The question, is, how can we create good women? 
 I don't disagree with that message but it is cruel to exaggerate these odds, it's like a lieutenant in WWI saying that they 'don't have that much artillery or machine guns' and you'll "totally be safe running across no man's land bro". This isn't to say you should go full doomer blackpill and give up but you can't be delusional about reality, and the sad reality is that for most young men, they are going to struggle a whole ton to find a wife, through no fault of their own, besides the tragic circumstances of the day. 
 @a0026d72 @Springtime for Zeon (Woggy Mk II) every one of us would have had a wife not 50 years ago. 
 Exactly. Far too many guys internalize their failures to find a wife as a personal issue. (For some, it is, especially if you're a drug addict or weigh 300lbs, something along those lines). 
You can only go so far as an atomized individual in such a broken and fucked up society. Asking individual men to just 'bootstraps' themselves into creating functioning communities and then calling them incel losers for failing to do so is absurd. 
 @a0026d72 @Springtime for Zeon (Woggy Mk II) Heartiste guys used to criticize an idea called “oneitis.” The idea that one girl, and one girl only, is right or perfect for you, and no others can do it. This is wrong, and they would point out that for a man to win, he has to play good odds. 
If your odds are 100,000 whores on tinder for one vaguely wife material, or 100 bar sluts for a viable girlfriend, or 10 office ladies with HR hanging over your back, your odds are not good.