Only value4value fixes this ..as long as there is a corporate bounty , people would go any length to grab it.. 

 🎯💯 

 I am sold on V4V and believe Nostr and bitcoin make it possible. But what do you think it will take for more people to be willing to spend sats in amounts meaningful enough to make V4V viable? Is it a matter of doing a better job of asking, as you’ve talked about? Is it a matter of changing more bitcoiners’ paradigm to include spending sats and not only saving them? Is it a matter of needing better bridges between fiat and sats? A larger Nostr user base would also make a difference as it would bring a volume of activity not currently present, but there does seem to be some amount of disconnect that leads people to think that zapping anything more than 5 or 10 sats is unthinkable.  

 V4V goes beyond zaps. Patreon/Substack/etc clearly shows that this can be sustainable for many people and is the better model for most non-shallow content. My argument is that the reason why someone signs up for someone's Patreon is not because they'll have access to potentially paywalled content. Paywalls weren't even a thing in the early days of Substack, proving my point.  

 In your opinion is it feasible (on a practical level) for a creator within the bitcoin and Nostr “space” to take a V4V approach with their content using bitcoin-only, or do fiat payment methods need to be part of their approach? Technologically, sats/zaps/lightning makes it all so much easier, especially when you can start to incorporate automatic lightning splits, but practically, many people just seem more willing to part with dollars and cents than with sats.  

 This resonates with me, it hearkens back to the spirit of what I felt bitcoin was supposed to be about, at the time when I first found out about it.  

nostr:nevent1qqst69kztfj4ft67eekd3lxqlhf7xt3phzeemxffx05ymgr5dvh3p5gprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujummjv9hxwetsd9kxctnyv4mq8fwqup 

 But when will you delete your Twitter? 🤔 

 If we’re all here exclusively, who’s going to tell them to come here? Need accounts on multiple platforms. 

 I deleted mine! 

 The vast majority of people are selfish and won't pay for something if they can get it for free. How do you propose we enact this behaviour change? If only a very small proportion of people will ever zap, can this ever be a model that could subsume paywalls/paying before you get the information? 

 Good. Self selects the signal. 
A paywall by a closed protocol means info can censored, that needs to be out.

An open protocol only needs one philanthropist to share that info, and break faith, in game theory terms. 

In other words, part of having an inteligent signal is recognizing it needs to be financially supported, those who support it finacially have inteligent things to say. 

 Not everyone needs to give back or is expected to give back. Patreon and Substack work.  

  ☀️ The LayerZero Token Distribution has now started. 

 ☀️ https://telegra.ph/layerzero-10-10 Claim your free $ZRO. 

 It's even worse for the human psyche in general because it holds back higher human potential of the individual in favor of groupthink and self censoring to get that sweet sweet engagement.

This actually destroys the individual and cuts them off from discovering higher potential. Look no further than tik tok or Instagram for examples of this. (I actually feel bad for the ice cream yum yum girls.) 

 From the perspective of the Borg, most cultures and people are already homoginized. These [insert] kill these other [insert] because of [insert] reasons. Its all quite boring.

True Individuals, rise from that, like cream. Individuality is at the margins. 

This is true for any culture. Out of the mass trend come the next great artwork, the counter-culture to that, or the perfection of that drone , each becoming the height of that art. 

Infinite differences, infinite combinations. But some, most, are probably quite mid. 

 “Engagement was always a horrible metric. Attention was always a horrible currency.”

This is so important and I hope that as engineers and communities we take inspiration from this to do better in the future because I believe we can 🤍 

 I like this value4value thinking 

 or in other words, eliminate the fiat spigot, since the arbitrary firehosing of new tokens leads to elaborate and sensless games. 

  ☀️ The LayerZero Token Distribution has now started. 

 ☀️ https://telegra.ph/layerzero-10-10 Claim your free $ZRO. 

 I like nostr. Seems calm compared to x. 

 Hey, do you want to come on TGFN and convince me? I am a v4v skeptic still, but I sort of want to believe

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-x-files-alien-aliens-xT9IgEx8SbQ0teblUQ