Oddbean new post about login | logout I'd say the 20 lbs of muscle I've put on since I started doing my routine in September suggests otherwise, but you do you.
Okay so September to December 20lbs of MUSCLE, not total weight. So what is your total weight increase? Like 30-40lbs? We don't only gain muscle, by definition. So let's say 20lbs in about 4 months, 5lbs of pure MUSCLE each month. Just over a pound a week, that's nice! I assume if you have 20lbs of only MUSCLE to build then you may be a beginner.
My diet was exactly the same when I went from 225 to 165 when I started Carnivore as it has been today when I went from 165 to 185 after working out starting in September. It's kind of funny you think you can make assumptions based on very little data such as a workout time.
I believe that time is a huge parameter. A) There's a MRV for a session, micro, meso, and macrocycle. More volume will not always return more/ better results. (SRA curve) B) Sets must be done within the range of 7-10 RPE to stimulate hypertrophy. Yes we can argue that Sets as low at 30% 1RM can stimulate hypertrophy, but only in absolute beginners. It ends up being junk volume, contributing to fatigue but not stimulus. C) Rest intervals lasting longer than 120seconds are significantly less stimulative to hypertrophy. Ideally rest is 60-120sec for hypertrophy. So what exactly were you doing for 4 hours? If the weight was light enough that you could be actually working for 4 hours then it either has exceeded your MRV or it wasn't heavy enough to stimulate hypertrophy. If your weights were heavy enough/challenging enough to elicit a response but you made it last 4 hours then your rest intervals would have been like 120minutes between sets. That much time would mean it's no longer stimulative because it's a new session. Since we're talking about hypertrophy and not athletic performance lemme ask, Does ANY competitive bodybuilder train one session for 4 hours? The fact that you went from 225 to 165 then to 185 tells me a lot though. For guys jacked at 225 they couldn't lose 60lbs. If they're 225 and 7-12% bodyfat.
The results are the results. I can see it in the mirror & on the scale. You'd initially said my workouts weren't generating muscle development. On that assumption, you are wrong.
Research in the lab and what's done in the real world by everyone tell me otherwise.
My lived experience tells me your initial assumption is simply not correct. I'll take that over any of the 'expert' knowledge. I can see it, I've added 20 lbs+ of plates to my reps over this time as well.
Bruh. Mike israetel is literally a scientist. You should research him I'm 227lbs this morning 9%bf and I OHP more than you weigh bro. I'm happy you're in bitcoin and I'm happy you're exercising. That's what matters.
You can move as many goal posts as you'd like to try and win your argument but the reality is your initial assumption about my muscle development is incorrect.
I'm literally defining the parameters.
Guess your definitions must not hold up then...
Okay. What do you compete in?
You really need to stop with the goal post moving. Your initial assumption was incorrect, just have your ego deal with it and move on.
I mean you simply don't understand lol
If I don't understand then how am I gaining muscle? Logically you make 0 sense to me.
I belive the human body is an adaptation machine. It’s adapts to its surrounding environment.
I guess that makes two of us. This situation makes zero sense to me as well. It's not like I'm trying to be like oh fuck this dude, I'm like buddy you're mistaken. Like everything says that's not possible, it's not my research. It's not my opinion. If you have 4 hours, go for it. It's by definition cardio. Or multiple separate sessions. I brought up competing because it's a way to truly measure. Like how do you know you gained muscle? Are you getting a dexa or doing floats? I think it's you said appearance and that's for sure a factor, but idk man. That's subjective. All in all, you're gaining, having fun, and into btc so that's what matters. I'll still see you on stage though 😉
Well it makes no sense to you because you only factor the time I spend in my workout and try and draw a conclusion from that single data point alone. It's honestly pretty ridiculous & definitely would be considered unsound science if you were running a study on it.
Bruh. I already explained.
And I've already explained to you that I've gained 20 lbs of muscle. This should have shut you up but you've since quadrupled down on your retarded assumption.
Bro.... what. I've stopped. I stopped a while ago. I was giving you props for being happy. I asked how you measure 20lbs and you didn't say lol. If you go 165 to 185 in 3 months you will gain fat. The body Must be in a calorie surplus to build muscle and that surplus adds fat. Bruh
This dude is a bodybuilder on carnivore and he does 3-4 hour workouts. Must be another perk of the carnivore diet? https://youtu.be/zq1VD2mC5sE?si=1X9wevpxYwHKEDDQ
'If you can do it for 4 hours then it isn't challenging. Definitely not stimulating muscle or strength development.' This is an inaccurate statement because what I'm doing is stimulating muscle & strength development in my body with my workout routine. If you want to argue efficiency, then fine, feel free. I'm not gonna pretend like I'm 100% certain the exact workouts I'm doing are 100% efficient. I'm building muscle, I enjoy my routine & my health is as good as it's been since I was in college 20 years ago. All I really care about, TBH.