Oddbean new post about | logout
 he’s unfortunately wrong about this nostr:note1llv39nujm9mj0dayqj37wlxulkealcfwqu4a2zvp40uwcau37tfspglntc 
 Bluesky is federated trash. Nostr, or the general idea of signing tweets and putting them on computers, is our only hope. The base model is here — time to build the wings. 🪽 
 would be nice to have a conversation with an open conversation with him

I think we have too much vitriol among these type of protocols whereas we (hopefully?) align on some of the goals

Or maybe I’m too naive 
 Honestly, I don’t see anything useful in Mastodon, BlueSky, or Farcaster. Equipping open-source algos would be cool, but I doubt that’ll transfer to nostr 1:1.

Let’s not make the mistake of the crypto space by trying to overly build bridges between broken protocols. Happy to take anything good that comes along though. 
 Mastodon was kinda nice before December 2022. After that it became occupied territory. 
 I should clarify that I meant being able to move your signed data from computer to computer… that seamlessness is the foundation for censorship-resistant scaling. Discovery and synchronization of data will eventually emerge and amplify nostr, but that base is why I’m here. 
 Nostr is the obvious choice to anyone who believes in freedom 
 Forget Bluesky #Nostr is the way, here's a quick vid to onboard normies: https://m.primal.net/HnUB.mp4 
 Great vid.  No quite for normies though.  They just don’t care. 
 Interested to learn when Bluesky lost its way and was abandoned for Nostr. 
 The protocol is way too complicated to implement, so there is only one provider and app. It's basically centralized already, and they even hired a moderation team. 
 PDS can be run now. moderation is on bsky server only 
 What is PDS 
 also more than one app, graysky 
 Way too much friction, game over man https://image.nostr.build/6daa276b570565e58de7779e61fb0ce99e1b15a86e7b3e0ff9d130ae312688d6.jpg https://image.nostr.build/9f8e69561a63d17a977bb88ca27853a47d704a2399d5e1c13d2ec8f4340f6239.jpg  
 Don’t be a stranger 
🖖🏻 
 pay my man to show up for me 
 How much? 
 ask him
or are you him? 
 maybe I am, maybe I am not. How would you know? Maybe I’m a little girl who knew everything for sure since Omaha was president. Maybe the whole wild world has gone crazy and only now they believe that you have not been.

maybe it’s a clown world and we are just spectators in the circus.

Are you him? Who’s him? 
🤡 
 you know I have made it very clear I will meet anyone interested at Bitcoin Miami energy conference this year

obvious preference for jack patrick dorsey's presence in person (minus voyeur) 
 To do the music conference again?
Certainly great parties.
Any particular venue?
Opium was great. Is that still open? 
 I said Miami, since there was no decipherable response

score some pods, smoke the resin, and announce your findings=whatev 
 Contrary to the quantum, my saying holds true, and kinda awkward for some standards to be broken by a pot smoking play boy. 
 explain this to me like I am a two year old 
 Not sure what there is to explain.
Me getting laid and what good Jewish culture or whats the argument here?

Guessing and fishing for something I don’t know? 
 another deflection and lack of direct transparent communication  
 it seems you just like to play the quips game  
 Playing mind games, McCain?
Know when beat.
👊 
 by whom?
the empress of japan?
i guarantee you are not SHE 
 Never had any native Japanese pussy.

Any fun? 
 you are a waste of space in this iteration  
 What else is new? 
 misdirection? 
 From Japanese pussy?

Huh? 
 and if you are jack and do not show up to Miami (you know when), I WILL SEE YOU IN COURT
 
 Unless a Jewish lady doing what Jewish ladies do best, don’t dread about the judgment. 
 I don't understand this. They don't just use a key? 
 That second screen is nice and has potential within nostr imo 
 “Custom hosting is in beta for developers” < “custom hosting is the only kind of hosting and it’s baked in to the protocol” 
 Could be a toggle between rec and adding preferred and brings relays into the frame gently 
 B1tc01n. 
 Where do you disagree? I'm honestly very confused about the differences between Nostr and Bkuesky and your views on each of them.

Your enthusiasm for Nostr is noteworthy given your significant involvement in Bluesky. 
 Bluesky is built around the desire by people to avoid each other. Nostr is designed to bring people together. 
 I'd say this about mastodon, not blue sky. There are no private accounts or posts on blue sky. Not even dm's (yet?) 
 No, but they are heavy into blocking by default there. So much so that people define their personalities by it.
https://image.nostr.build/0855e6d131307945890b11fd2e247c4f2526c3073a03e25e822ca44e3b927944.jpg 
 they just being people. much better to block than ban imo. is this different on nostr? 
 Yes. Blocking here doesn’t exist. If I mute you, you can still see my posts and I can still choose to see yours. On Bluesky if I were to block you, not only would I appear to not exist to you, but any posts you had written as replies to me or tagging me would be removed from your feed as if you had never posted them. It’s basically a form of censorship where other random people can hide your posts so even you can’t see them. 
 seems broken imo. people block for all kinds of reasons, that version leaves no room for recovery. maybe they'll reconsider it.

https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/1809

or maybe a fork is needed 
 The only fork Bluesky needs is the one you stick in it after it’s done cooking. 
 ✨💜💥🥊 nostr 🌿
✨🧡💥🥊 bitcoin 🪨

pretty powerful together :) 
 BITCOINERS CARE ABOUT FREE SPEECH AND JUSTICE. AND THEY UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY. THE NEXT GROUP TO JOIN NOSTR WILL BE JOURNALISTS AND HUMAN RIGHT ACTIVISTS. AND DEMONETIZED YOUTUBERS OF COURSE. 
 TLDR
I get easily bored
just read 1st and last paragraph

I love bit-tech 
Twitter bitcoin
world parliament 
 big* 
 P.S. make it legal 
 He's right regarding the fact that the community here is almost indistinguishable from the bitcoin one.  
 he is 100% right, people here only want to talk about bitcoin and nostr 
 I dont think bluesky will replace twitter but at least people there talk about other subjects 
 people here can talk about ANYTHING they want but they chose b1tc0in lol  
 It's just not just the fact that they only want to talk about Bitcoin, Even if someone brings up a different topic, everyone tries to steer the conversation back to Bitcoin in the replies. Everything have to revolve around Bitcoin. Personally, I don't mind it it just feel like a Bitcoin subreddit. I mean, I'd rather scroll through other social media platforms because they discuss a variety of topics. The only thing that bothers me is that they don't seem to understand why Nostr isn't taking off and becoming mainstream. Well, one reason is that it's all about Bitcoin, and let's face it, 98% of the world couldn't care less about Bitcoin. I get being passionate about something, but really to an outsider all this 'orange pill' and 'normies' talk sounds like cult languag 
 I think it's worse than a Bitcoin subreddit (except for the fact that Reddit went to shit due to no longer being FLOSS and due to moderation).

Subreddits are individual sections for people that talk about all sorts of topics. You talk about stupid things, you make jokes, you make memes and you ask topic-specific things about what you wish, including Bitcoin.

This is like a whole fucking social media platform for people absolutely obsessed about Bitcoin. You "estimate" that "98% of the world couldn't care less about Bitcoin", but even the 2% that do don't need to be more obsessed by it than by any other tool they use.
I use many tools. I'm not constantly talking about any specific one of them.

Most people who are really passionate about a topic, which is admirable, are interested in something which is rather wide, things like programming, mathematics, art. Even when it's more niche, they usually don't think everyone should be as focused on it as they are.
Money isn't really something one would normally be this obsessed about and the constant focus of one specific currency very understandably make people wary of Nostr. 
 yeah.. because no second best. no third best. lol 
 Wait, what about #bitcoin? 
 Nothing wrong with bitcoin, it's a currency that a lot of people are passionate about and also a looot of people (the majority of the world) aren't interested in Bitcoin. It doesn't make them stupid or ignorant; it's just something they're not interested in. I'm sure you're not interested in a lot of things other people are passionate about. 
 bluesky is a ridiculous smurf circlejerk even at the code level. 
 He is write, it's full of people of the corn. 🤣 
 the replies to this are the reason why people are wary of nostr. 
 What u mean tho 
 i agree, im hoping for nostr-bsky bridge for drama action lol 
 My NOSTR is about Sex, Art, and some Bitcoin. 
 nostr:nevent1qqsrmrvry40qweqdh9m5p8g6phtd73352w40nv5rf06ht5v7h3mnv4qprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yct5dyhxxmmdqgsxu35yyt0mwjjh8pcz4zprhxegz69t4wr9t74vk6zne58wzh0waycrqsqqqqqp27qgee  
 lol I love that one 
 Not really wrong 😂 
 I talk about sailboat hiking and adventure , so you’re right >< 
 BlueSky is more hacker news friendly.
Nostr is more stacker news friendly... 
 Hemm, is there deep-technical difference between two platforms. 

As newbie and deep learn nostr, IMHO, need understanding to both of you talk about further development to engage more bigger community not only bitcoiners. Nostr needs time to build a strong and diverse community, especially by attracting influential content creators around the world. If they join Nostr, boom for lightning network. So ya, it’s about Momentum matters 💡 
 Bluesky is full of circlejerk pronoun people with diagnoses in bio who talk about nothing else than how much they hate Elon Musk.

Yes, there's a lot of repetitive bitcoiners here on Nostr, but theres NOBODY that police my language and NOBODY that gives me the old Twitter diatribe about how I'm an evil, Bad Person because of my views.

Fuck Bluesky and all of the Stasi-wannabes it's populated with. 
 Imagine wanting to talk about stuff that isn't bitcoin. 
 Meat, how to cook meat can be quite an interesting subject other than bitcoin... Also family and child rearing. 
 Everything relates to bitcoin

The water is all around the fish just like the technology of money is all around us. It’s an i escapable reality. Like nature. It just is 🧡 
 Such as Bitcoin Jujitsu 
 But Bluesky is so… fetch! 
 Horrifying stuff. 
 INCONCEIVABLE!! 
 Rookie 
 I do that all the time. I don't care about BTC all that much. It's not a large part of my life. It's just another tool in my toolkit.  
 Exciting times ahead with the #BTC halving! It's crucial to keep an open eye with the current trend and 100x your position, check out this amazing vip group from RCL for long term maximizing positions you wait to see the latest trends unfold! #cryptocurrency #bitcoin

Source: https://rebelcapitalistshow.com/

Vip group: https://t.me/rebelcapitalistshow 
 Nostr is so much more than just a protocol-based social media and the application of Nostr in the real-world is still developing over time. But we could enhance the use-cases. 

Use-cases are the bridge between deep-tech and the people. From an execution perspective, it's your intermediary between devs and sales/marketing, and often a graceful and purposeful way of penetrating the market. 

Numerous initiatives have been undertaken on use-cases for Nostr, for example Coracle's focus on Christian community growth and user testing in the US and Australia. Similarly, Madeira (Portugal) has spearheaded localized community development efforts, fostering grassroots adoption of Nostr and Bitcoin applications by nurturing developer talent. Other initiatives include live streaming for indie performers and cooking enthusiasts. 

As we expand the use-cases, Nostr will naturally diversify. 

An idea to have a Bitcoin and Nostr conference for children - basic programming and just tapping on their creativity on use-cases. Children have boundless imagination and are way more creative than adults - Picasso, Einstein, and many others have pointed this out. And children tend to have a can-do positive attitude and just genuinely curious. And these kids, especially those in under-served communities will become adults in 10 years time, and will have to figure life out. Having these platforms to explore various careers and create various solutions for their community might be a game changer for them. 

These are just examples of use-cases and it merely scratches the surface of the myriad potential of what Nostr is - which makes it difficult for it to be an apple-to-apple comparison to anything out there right now. 

Eventually Bitcoin and Nostr will just be base layers. The conversations will revolve around use-cases, grassroots applications and solutions. It will revolve around people, community and how it makes their lives better. 
 
 I'm okay with people who want to talk about things other than #Bitcoin. I welcome them. 
 Me too. When there are myriad topics and types of people is when nostr wins. 
 Only want to talk about #Bitcoin? That's BS. People also talk about Nostr 
 Farcastr = "red social insuficientemente centralizada."

Seguimos

#Nostr #Venezuela #ElSalvador #Mexico #Argentina #España #Bitcoin #Amethyst 

nostr:nevent1qqsw7skrspf3vjy6dpjv4zse6mh2lytz0yd0ylwujucwf327ksasdgspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyzprg8ug9dh2hnft5lc7ly92m9su7p6279deaaz2p8ua928ml0n2yqcyqqqqqqgq4ae74 
 Sometimes you only find the conclusion you're looking for in order to dismiss a truth you don't want to reconcile. 
 I have found other things to talk about. Photography, music, coffee, and my favorite-- #pickleball 
 What does it mean if the most free social protocol, where anyone can talk about anything they choose, is mostly full of people openly talking about Bitcoin?


nostr:nevent1qqsw7skrspf3vjy6dpjv4zse6mh2lytz0yd0ylwujucwf327ksasdgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qygyzxs0cs2mw40xjhfl3a7g24ktpeur54u2mnm6y5z0e6250h7lx5gpsgqqqqqqsmlq0ap 
 https://m.primal.net/HpbV.jpg 
 All roads lead to #Nostr. 
 I'm glad there's another option for bitcoin haters. 
 I'm using Nostr to log my home construction project. 🚧 Would rather log it here than on a centralized service. @lililo 
 it is very bitcoiny