Oddbean

@BunnygirlAbductor @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara I simply disagree. I think they have a lot of agency, more agency than a lot of men. Men cope with their lack of integrity, saying they have no agency, but low agency people are not good systemic, collective liars, like women are. Many feminine habits are founded on deception. Low-agency people are not good liars. It's a descriptively incorrect statement to say women are low agency.

@BunnygirlAbductor @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara Yet they are. Look, it's the same as if you walked into a room and said jews own all the banks. You'd get a lot of eyes on you but you'd still be right. If women didn't have agency it wouldn't even be okay to fuck them. It would be like fucking children. Considering how ruthlessly women behave in their relationships with men and each other, it is not fair to say they have no agency, rather that just excuses their actions. Considering they can actively and enthusiastically participate in a system of oppression means they have agency. The fact there can be queens and matriarchal societies means they have agency. Women have agency and men excuse their actions out of necessity to get along and the manipulation by women of their competition with other men. It's an extremely selfish relationship between men and women and it is orchestrated by women. They have no care in the world for anyone else despite having the capability for it, and it is time men stop excusing their behavior.

@BunnygirlAbductor @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @Christmassy Merry Dude Do you remember the Florence Nightingale quote? The observation that women lack sympathy? Coming from a woman, that indicates agency, but also spells out a lack of integrity.

@Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @Christmassy Merry Dude @BunnygirlAbductor In other words, you might say women lack agency, and may or may not have integrity, but a woman in a moment of self-reflection would say, and would indicate, that women have agency, but lack integrity.

>a moment of self reflection Literally impossible for 90%+ of women. You're trying to understand women in the terms you would use to understand men. I'm not telling you to lower your standards of what you find acceptable from them, but I am telling you to temper your expectations of whats likely.

>In other words, you might say women lack agency, and may or may not have integrity, but a woman in a moment of self-reflection would say, and would indicate, that women have agency, but lack integrity. I really don't think it's a conscious thing. Women don't feel about you the way you feel about them, because they've evolved not to as a coping mechanism. Historically, they're part of the spoils of war. When a tribe was conquered, some men were kept as slave labour, most killed. The women were carried off as booty by the victors. That mean's the man on top of her later that night, is the same man she watched kill her father & brothers in the morning. That's why they've a totally different psychology. Men are the romantics of the sexes. Man built the Taj Mahal for the woman he loved, Helen of Troy's face launched a thousand ships out to war. Everything- or at least most- a man does in life, whether it's get a degree to get on the ladder to become an executive, become a tech bro or start a business, ultimately he's doing it to win the affections of the woman who will bare his children. Once you understand it in it's proper context, it's easier to not resent them for something that's not really their fault. youtu.be/j95uDFgEpt0?si=kOQ0U1HGwaA2TRDf

@Junkies_R_Us @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @BunnygirlAbductor Women have also killed themselves after being raped, an incident which spurred a rebellion against the Roman kings before the republic, and men were taken as slaves too. I don’t buy it. For every example there’s a counter example, and in the mind of every man’s heart is a woman who will exercise her feminine agency in a compassionate relationship with him. Denying them agency is lowering standards as men, and excusing their behavior. When a woman gives her life for her children, that can’t be seen as anything except agency. When she takes a risk or makes a sacrifice for someone she loves, that can’t be taken as anything but agency. The narrative that women *don’t* have agency is used to excuse women who encourage their sons to chop their dicks off, or are whores their entire youth, or hold shitty beliefs, and in general, do shitty things. It’s a coping mechanism for ZOG, and I simply don’t buy it.

i never said they don't have agency, they do, in the context of their nature. does a dog have agency? yeah, limited to within the context of its nature. you're assuming men & women's natures are identical, they're not, they're complimentary opposites.

@Junkies_R_Us @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @BunnygirlAbductor then this just applies to men as well and men don’t have agency “except within our limits.” Well what are those? It’s so vague as to be useless.

I ain't reading all that The bottom line is that you can expect better of women but you're going to be disappointed every time. If there's no man to override her animal urges she's gonna ruin herself, period.

@BunnygirlAbductor @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara Is the definition of rape 'when you violate another mans property?' Then the child doesn't even need to consent. This seems like the more absurd reduction. https://5dollah.click/media/8670191e-8117-4d70-b6d8-77ac27d6b375/image.png?name=image.png

@BunnygirlAbductor @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara Women might need men to be their "better half," but I'm sick of any notion that women are by and large 'good people,' or that they don't have the ability to choose to be better. At the end of the day, "no agency" posting feels like simping. I KNOW we can get better out of women, but they don't want to give it to us.

i’ve been with over 40 women; i don’t think they have agency and neither does Scripture. they can’t help themselves. https://i.poastcdn.org/59b420d793c83ada0243fb6fef6d11ed415d6d3f545acb4d766f98dcf3dd88cb.jpeg

@BunnygirlAbductor @Griffith @Christmassy Merry Dude @:bible_wh::confederate_flag: 巫女波 RMIV:sonnen... @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara women have agency but not as strong as agency as men, hence why it's easier to manipulate them and why they naturally gravitate to the strong of persuasion. Ideally this was put into place so wives would be obedient to their fathers then their husbands in the nucular family, but now theyre sadly obedient to the state and their vices just as many men are

In the past accepting responsibility for something she'd done could have resulted in the woman getting kicked out of the tribe and dying on her own. That's why they can't even think owning up to something and instead lie/deceive automatically, instinctually. It was/is a survival trait for them.