Oddbean

@BunnygirlAbductor @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @Christmassy Merry Dude Do you remember the Florence Nightingale quote? The observation that women lack sympathy? Coming from a woman, that indicates agency, but also spells out a lack of integrity.

@Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @Christmassy Merry Dude @BunnygirlAbductor In other words, you might say women lack agency, and may or may not have integrity, but a woman in a moment of self-reflection would say, and would indicate, that women have agency, but lack integrity.

>a moment of self reflection Literally impossible for 90%+ of women. You're trying to understand women in the terms you would use to understand men. I'm not telling you to lower your standards of what you find acceptable from them, but I am telling you to temper your expectations of whats likely.

>In other words, you might say women lack agency, and may or may not have integrity, but a woman in a moment of self-reflection would say, and would indicate, that women have agency, but lack integrity. I really don't think it's a conscious thing. Women don't feel about you the way you feel about them, because they've evolved not to as a coping mechanism. Historically, they're part of the spoils of war. When a tribe was conquered, some men were kept as slave labour, most killed. The women were carried off as booty by the victors. That mean's the man on top of her later that night, is the same man she watched kill her father & brothers in the morning. That's why they've a totally different psychology. Men are the romantics of the sexes. Man built the Taj Mahal for the woman he loved, Helen of Troy's face launched a thousand ships out to war. Everything- or at least most- a man does in life, whether it's get a degree to get on the ladder to become an executive, become a tech bro or start a business, ultimately he's doing it to win the affections of the woman who will bare his children. Once you understand it in it's proper context, it's easier to not resent them for something that's not really their fault. youtu.be/j95uDFgEpt0?si=kOQ0U1HGwaA2TRDf

@Junkies_R_Us @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @BunnygirlAbductor Women have also killed themselves after being raped, an incident which spurred a rebellion against the Roman kings before the republic, and men were taken as slaves too. I don’t buy it. For every example there’s a counter example, and in the mind of every man’s heart is a woman who will exercise her feminine agency in a compassionate relationship with him. Denying them agency is lowering standards as men, and excusing their behavior. When a woman gives her life for her children, that can’t be seen as anything except agency. When she takes a risk or makes a sacrifice for someone she loves, that can’t be taken as anything but agency. The narrative that women *don’t* have agency is used to excuse women who encourage their sons to chop their dicks off, or are whores their entire youth, or hold shitty beliefs, and in general, do shitty things. It’s a coping mechanism for ZOG, and I simply don’t buy it.

i never said they don't have agency, they do, in the context of their nature. does a dog have agency? yeah, limited to within the context of its nature. you're assuming men & women's natures are identical, they're not, they're complimentary opposites.

@Junkies_R_Us @Christmassy Merry Dude @Remi @mullvad @UnityOstara @BunnygirlAbductor then this just applies to men as well and men don’t have agency “except within our limits.” Well what are those? It’s so vague as to be useless.