Oddbean new post about login | logout I respect what you're doing Vitor. Bleeding edge freedom tech, it's a beautiful thing to see. Edits have the potential to unleash a decentralized army of fact finders. I'm less convinced on the rationale behind changing kind 1 in the protocol. Why not keep kind 1 for all reply events?
Mostly because we already use other kinds to be replies in other nips. Kind 1 replies are rarely used outside kind 1 clients. And they break many clients when they are used in other nips. So, it's really not something new that I am proposing. It's just a formalization of what already happens.
Let's take long form content for example. Aren't the replies to that kind 1 events?
Yep, and many clients show the replies without showing the head article in a broken experience.
I can see your point now
If kind 1 clients must support every other client just to display replies correctly, then we are making their life more difficult. It's not an issue for Amethyst because we implement everything, but it is a pain for any new dev. :(
"note edit maximalist"? This must nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7anfw3hhytnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qy2hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn00p68ytnyv4mz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uqzq3svyhng9ld8sv44950j957j9vchdktj7cxumsep9mvvjthc2pju2hq5qc 's fake account.
Nope. Lots of people love edits, @fiatjaf.
Even more people love Instagram.
Yes.
What would it take to build something like community notes around kind 1010 edit events? A simple way to up or downvote perhaps?
Maybe a DVM could get all the edits and LLM summarize them as a new kind? Then people following that DVM would see the community notes summary by that key. In that way, people get the freedom to choose their own summarizing algorithms.
That's fun to think about, but I think it's more in line with the nostr way to build a system where the humans are the algorithm. The existing reaction kind should be enough as long as there is a standardized way to up and down vote, like '+' and '-'. With that standard in place, my client can then show me the top voted suggested edit, with votes filtered through my web of trust.
Nice! Yep, or use the reactions to refine the answer.
But I believe the power of community notes is that those who don’t normally agree, this time agree. That prevents the power of the mob from simple majority rule or “”democracy. Also, community notes members have a vetting/waiting period. To reduce and prevent bots. How will you implement that type of protection against bots? Would people need to have made a certain number of posts and likes and comments before they can use this particular up vote or down vote reaction?
Perhaps you could make a new specific comment event called “context” or “aside” which basically starts a a sub thread on a given event about the context of that comment, as opposed to continuing the in line conversation. This could be used as a community note, or any other type of context appropriately.
Did you miss the "filtered by my web of trust" part ?
So your web of trust overlaps with people you generally disagree with? Or what do you mean by your web of trust?
We're not trying to re-create Twitter on nostr. Edits combined with WoT can be the tools for something totally new that doesn't exist in social media
Lol don't be mad because you don't get to dictate the direction of this protocol