FWIW, some of those men would love to go back, but the women dont want them for varying reasons. :-(
With that said, as the son of somebody that was an unmarried single mom until she met my dad, it’s possible, but you have to do some filtering. My parents were married until my dad’s passing, and theh were seen as the strongest marriage by others.
And FWIW, even if the sex *stops*, a husband deciding to replace her with somebody else is seen with some degree of social scorn and shame even in modern secular circles. And there's an implied sense that she *supports* him in various ways and should be entitled to *something* if he opts to leave.
There's just far less public, widespread sympathy for the recipient of a sugar daddy's benefits. Her friends might feel sorry for her, but nobody will treat her the same way as married woman going through a divorce.
There's an implied sense that you were supposed to buy something "nice" with it, but I suspect if they thought about it, they would have realized that silver coins and BTC are nice things to you versus high end purses.
FWIW, there isn't a magical solution given that Africans are *desperate* to make their way to Europe in the hope of living a better life. Just as in the US, the people we deport tend to make additional attempts to enter, so short of imprisonment or death, we're stuck with this problem....
Something something "why don't you do this Ukranians, but to Africans/Arabs/Middle Easterners/Latin Americans".
FWIW, the US goes the closest to this route in terms of partial imprisonment, and people still *try* to come here in the hopes that they'll find work because earning first world money is better than nothing. And nobody wants the optics of dead people in the sea in sunken ships or coated in blood at the frontiers.
And I'm *very* hazy about hyping up the idea of killing these people because I look like a foreigner, and the people who are generally anti-immigrant are also anti-*me*.
Somebody will argue that it's morally wrong to make such a distinction between two suffering groups.
FWIW, it's only North America, Europe, and Australia that have the attempted financial capacity to absorb some immigrants. The Middle East is basically only workable with oil and few citizens, South America isn't that rich and the same could be said for most of Asia.
FWIW, I read a story about Nigerians that ended up in Brazil because the boat they were using as their escape method ended up there instead of the US as would have preferred. Despite being more organized than back home, most longed for the States. The happiest, IIRC, was a mom with kids who seemed somewhat content about being somewhere *better* than home. The men wanted the US.
Put it this way, immigration from the rest of the world doesn't make me feel less foreign per se because it doesn't make me *white*. It's not the presence of other people, but the ability to be seen as equivalent to the middle class natives with no negative stereotypes.
*wow*
I guess it's weird to see somebody actually move away because foreign black people showed up, but I live in NYC Metro where foreign black people are a sizable chunk of the black population. You'd never see FBA people openly say up here, "I can't live around these Caribbeans". If anything, I've met a few FBA types that looked up to us as "better".
TIL that Susan Rice is also a fellow Caribbean.
FWIW, those three aren't that different from the types of middle class people that I'd see in my old neighbourhood waiting for the bus or at church. Kamala is a ten percent of the Jamaican moms or aunts where I grew up.
*White people don't notice that effect because we all look alike to them.*
Meanwhile, I think we can figure out who's the foreigner within 30 seconds. :-P
A friend noted that in NYC, I'm "Haitian", but in Seattle where he grew up, I'm just another black person. It's partially why I've never really warmed up the idea of leaving New York, and I'd prefer Canada where the bulk of the black population is composed of black immigrants, especially from my part of the world.
When you've paid stupid amounts of money to make it here, and you see somebody showing up and screwing up your deal, you tend to take it somewhat personally, especially if they're from a different ethnic or religious group.
I noted my cousin's harsh tendency toward fellow Haitians trying to claim refugee status during the Trump era because they were afraid of being deported from the US back to Haiti. His view was that it wasn't Canada's problem to solve if the US didn't want them.
FWIW, I felt far more sympathetic given the current state that Haiti is in right now...
FWIW, based on my grandmother's nine grandchildren, only two have married white people and those two were probably the most white adjacent out of all of us as they grew up in the Upper West Side in Manhattan. One cousin married a FBA, another married a fellow Caribbean. And so far, four great grandchildren are products of FBA relationships, one is FBA/Hispanic, and two are mixed race.
From what I've seen, we're melting into the FBAs.
*Quinceañeras*
Nah, we celebrate Labour Day and Sweet 16s. Not us. :-)
With that said, it seems that the neighbourhood is going down, and your dad is bailing before things get worse. I can't blame him or anybody else for doing the same thing.
FWIW, the loud party reference is why we *never* considered having a family BBQ. Stuff that's tolerable in a black neighbourhood would never fly in our mostly white neighbourhood which is what partially scares some of the non-white buyers away. Day time party is acceptable, but definitely, no loud music.
I was going to write up a whole thing, and then I remembered how Northeastern and Canadian Haitians look down at their Miami counterparts as kinda trashy. OTOH, New York and Boston Haitians look at their Canadian counterparts with shame in the sense that they live in a place where they speak French, and yet somehow haven't become filthy rich.
FWIW, the Canadians partially solve for this problem by requiring their immigrants to meet a skill profile, or for those being sponsored by family to be financially supported by their families with a financial penalty for state support. The stories of family members going on welfare and the government billing their sponsors makes sponsoring the questionable cousin less enticing.
Haiti is a case where because there's crap for opportunities even before the state's implosion, you have lots of poor people struggling that basically view leaving as the only solution because they have zero hope of securing the few middle class jobs in the country. And the few people with middle class jobs view leaving as their backup option in case they lose their jobs.
In the 1980s, the latter would just overstay their visa. Now they just wait perpetually on line for some first world country. The former sell everything and become boat people, or they hope that somebody from a pays blancs sends money back home so they can pay bills and eat. With the capital imploding, even the latter will forgo waiting to try sneaking into the US.
I remember when NYC was the capital of the Haitian diaspora.
Now it's Miami. IIRC, the Haitians in Florida are mix of people from Miami and the Northeast. They wanted somewhere cheaper with less extreme weather, and oddly, for some Haitians, Atlanta feels like "home" if they grew up in the mountains.
Bonus is being away from the other Haitians that you don't like.
*EU is getting a bunch of Senegalese, lately.*
Stable enough to avoid being the top story on the news, but insanely high unemployment. So you send the men off to Europe, and shame those who didn't make it. Seriously, I've heard the stories on BBC about how those who don't make it are seen as *useless* and mistreated by their families, especially if assets were sold to pay for their trip...
There's a reason why hospitals in the Bronx wouldn't put Dominican patients in the same rooms as Puerto Rican patients...
Coincidentally, there's a reason why Caribbeans live in black neighbourhoods and not Latino ones. :-/
With that said, I suspect it's because they're used to meeting bourgeois types, um, crude about these issues compared to other people within our own ethnic group. They're basically meeting white people that "season their chicken". I suspect one could argue that our immigration policy should select for that, and I suspect that's why East Asian immigrants are well liked in North America....
Either the German media overhypes things, or immigrant groups somehow manage to not be as insane toward each other in the US. Haitians aren't going to light up the Jamaicans with pitchforks around here.
OTOH, maybe it's because if one chooses to commit felony assault, you win a free trip back home. It's not worth bashing somebody if it means you lose everything.
In contrast, here so many want citizenship ASAP to avoid the risk of deportation. Everybody is afraid of that risk given how hard it is to get a green card, and the fact that you have family members relying on you back home.
There's a reason why lefty types wanted to re-imagine policing and all those other buzz words. They knew that black cops would be just as awful as white cops.
I remember that!
IIRC, he stopped doing that set when he noticed that some white people liked it *too much*.
It’s the middle class black people dillema.
Isn’t she basically the AfD but “for the left leaning Ossis?”
OTOH, does anybody in the West vote for Der Linke given its past, or there people who vote for it because they’re too leftist for the SPD?
Somewhere in SPD HQ, the comfort of knowing that AfD was stealing CDU/CSU votes has faded as some of their base is going to slowly defect to the Iranian Ossi.
I suspect that trick works for happily married women.
The ones who didn't marry well may feel differently. Well, more so about the former while the latter is probably unlikely in both cases. And I suspect the former is assuming a more idealistic version of what could have happened.
Yeah, there's a reason why everybody started off with no speed limits on the highway, and within ten years, somehow speed limits became a thing.
Only the Germans could really pull it off without being a death trap. France tried, and well, France was a raging death trap filled with speeders until recently.
Wait, you just found out?
Supposedly, it was a Hamas rocket that failed. Then they overhyped it and claimed it was Israel, the media ran with it, and it lit up the so-called Arab Street and the jeune leftists.
*some of the longest, flattest stretches of road in the world, with virtually no traffic. Canadian prairies.*
I drove from Alberta to Drumhellier a few years ago, and as somebody from a coastal plain, that was a little surreal at times.
Mom used to take tuna and mix it with mayo and something else to make a pate of some sort that was perfect for sandwiches.
Zero clue of how to replicate that.
It's interesting that ZH takes a relatively conspiratorial view here while left leaning types were never fond of him and assumed he was corrupt from his time as the Borough President of Brooklyn, and normies have assumed he's just another incompetent mayor incapable of solving NYC's troubles, especially in terms of crime.
Lefty residents who didn't vote for him see this as their prayers because it's their best chance of removing him from office in the hopes of somebody that will be more amenable to their perspective.
FWIW, the same people that would argue that NYS is run by terrible machine politics would generally turn around and argue that the US Department of Justice is probably the least affected by said machine politics.
Marriage *selects* for men who can earn more when married.
Men who can't do so are either in the social class that doesn't marry, or they're more likely to divorce when their income doesn't grow to meet the needs of their spouse.
FWIW, the stats for married black men versus their white counterparts is rather depressing, but definitely explains some of the bad financial and wealth stats floating around about black families...
OTOH, I think we need more white guys to marry black women. For, you know, reparations.
They have turkeys in Germany? I always assumed it was a North American bird that's mostly in Anglo American cooking.
I'm assuming that the birds are imported at some insane price point? I'd jokingly tell you to sneak onto a DoD base and buy from there. :-)
In contrast, you have e black kids renting homes on AirBNB, hotel rooms, or using low use catering halls expecting family events as party venues.
One went wrong when some kids shot each other over the summer. :-/
FWIW, illegal immigrants have been in NYC for *decades*.
The difference is that you're noticing it because there's no more cheap basement apartments and overcrowded houses in the outerboros anymore.
As my friend noted, he’s seeing more Hispanic men sleeping in the subway with the implication that they’re refugees who have either lost their housing or new arrivals that have been kicked out of shelters.
There’s a sense that Camp of the Saints turned out to be true in a limited form, but it’s hard to stop the flow without being hilariously racist about it.
I’m somewhat sensitive and biased to that for not quite obvious reasons.
FWIW, as I've noted before, you didn't quite notice it because there weren't reports in local media of it. Yes, there were illegal immigrants in various neighbourhoods, but they all had some type of home and employment. We're noticing the issue now because they're being bused from other states, and they're seeking state support.
In my drunker moments, I’ve wanted to argue that the CIA et alia need to start infiltrating these mosques to influence their adherents with more liberal and secular values, but I suspect there’s not much of a market for Liberal Islam with some of these types.
FWIW, there's a small plurality of Haitians that would kill for a pays blancs to take over and fix the country at this point. Mind you, I suspect they're looking at things from a very idealistic standpoint. Germany* isn't going to fix Haiti and turn it into the 17th Lander overnight, and the inability to do this is what creates some of the problems.
*Some Haitians liked the Germans because they're not a previous colonizer, the Americans are seen as awful interlopers, so that leaves the Germans as the next best option.
Haiti's been a nominal democracy with elections since 1994, so it's not quite despotic rule. FWIW, the real problem is kleptocracy, especially in a country where the easiest way to make money is to *loot* the government via corruption. Sometimes the foreign aid promises don't quite materialize, but when it does, $X is allocated, $Y is looted, and $X-$Y leaves very little to get anything done.
That reminds me of adult actress Mia Kalifa saying pro-Palestinian argments online while having a tattoo of a group in the Lebanese civil war that was anti-PLO and sometimes allied with Israel…
Palestinians who happen to be Christian versus Christians who happen to be Lebanese.
The confessional state is strong in Lebanon while it doesn’t seem to deliver any real benfit to Palestinians.
So the Christians rise up in terms of education and make it through normal immigration channels while the poor Muslims, especially in the Sahel just bolt for Europe?
With that said, you somehow manage to visit the hidden spots that most of us in the States never think about visiting. We focus on the big cities and the obvious stuff, and you're visiting hidden gems that Europeans keep to themselves. :-)
As a few people have noted, NYS legalized marijuana with the most cumbersome process ever to open a store, so illegal stores have popped up selling openly with nearly minimize enforcement from law enforcement.
So a state with an awful trafficking problem decided that prostitution should be something that takes place with minimal rules and regulations?
The problem is that advocates for sex workers tend to hype up decriminalization as the solution to minimize interaction with the state while not realizing that we want state interaction to make it as easy as possible to capture the bad actors.
*where I live, but we have no whores*
I suspect local regional capital will have some.
OTOH, maybe I'm getting older and no longer as interested in viewing, but Munich didn't seem to have the seedy side that Berlin has, or even a Cologne or Frankfurt...
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