Nostr as it stands is a soup with too many cooks. Segregate the communities, build your echo chambers and flourish in isolation without individuals who you struggle communicating with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
literally the base case: test relay with n=1 whitelist.
Why doesn't anyone see that as the simplest solution to navigate? We don't need a stupid Rube Goldberg machine to partition the relay soup with crazy cryptography. Amethysts hashtag feeds but select relay sets.
The problematic incentives that come from smashing all relays together into a single pool with a "single" community. You need to be angry and scream to be noticed.
what I'm more saying is we need closed communities. yes decentralization, yes gossip/outbox etc. A melting pot is nice but we need closed communities to help encourage a focused & thematic discussion.
Nostr groups are a mess and i argue the simplest implementation is select the relay(s) for a specific community you want to be in. Will UX be difficult? Maybe, but just like a feed where only posts with a single hashtag comes through, you can do the same for relays.
Always optional. Like a faucet, you & the relays choose what level of openness you want.
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Paper1: "we've release such and such dataset"
hmmm. Yes, dataset is interesting. Who else has cited it to see what has been done. Oh! 30 citations. Interesting. What kind of scientific advancement has been made?
the 29 citations:
"there have been many ongoing efforts to organize {field}, such are {paper1}. Like them, we too have released a new fantastic dataset!"
Much science. Much progress. Such insight 🙃
No incentives to verify, and then we get this:
https://theconversation.com/what-allegations-of-alzheimers-research-fraud-mean-for-patients-187911
in one sense - Cuz pROgrEs and ImPaKt.
in another sense, the science version of working with old code and the related thread.
Those are just two possible reasons that come out of a very entangled situation of bad incentives.
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Consider the possibility, video -> article conversion:
- a lecture, a tutorial, a podcast
- broken up into sections (youtube - chapters, Q/A from a podcast)
- if a diagram or ppt slide exists, identify and extract it
- create article, sections composed of text and/or diagram/ppt slide with terms and concepts linking to their own articles for definitions. Actual text cleaned up and rephrased into a readable form.
possible? Quite.
soon? Perchance.
GM
Slowing down the riff, breaking it into parts. Makes for a fun practice exercise 😎
https://v.nostr.build/rouJjn0pZIG90KOY.mp4
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Ffmpeg does 95% of what i need for video editing. Bash history saves the commands so i dont need to remember, anything different and LLM's got me covered for the syntax.
Carcinogen - cancer causing agent. Social carcinogen, social cancer.
Any platform or individual that brings social cancer: Ragebate, hate, brigading, algorithmic engagment driving users to the extremes etc.
Addiction - maybe nostr, but nostr's a pura vida addiction 😅🫂
and thoughts on community security? Literally the only person who actually engages me on this topic is nostr:nprofile1qqsyeqqz27jc32pgf8gynqtu90d2mxztykj94k0kmttxu37nk3lrktcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejz7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsz9mhwden5te0d4kx26m49ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5hspyest0 because he vehemently opposes a perspective I have but we gucci otherwise.
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If you want to be an asshole be an asshole on your relay, but you can still be on my relay if you follow my rules.
Specialized communities wont come to nostr if anyone can comment on their content because of the chance of vandalism. Nostr itself is an echo chamber and anyone veering from the average perspective is ganged up on disencentivizing others away.
switch relays for specifc topics, or groups multiple relays together for different communities. Just like amethyst uses lists to follow hashtags you can do that for relays.
Famous user posts, incoming reboost cascade. I get it, I already saw it five times.
you can of course have any mix of relays you want and relays that have loose moderation tools thats perfectly fine and now boosting is less annoying if you're cross posting across communities. Reporting is actually actionable because it holds moderators/relay operators accountable for user behaviors because no one likes a community garden where anyone can shit there as they please.
its not about "forcing" an echo chambers, its allowing a gradient level of openness.
And that's fine, let the prebiotic soup be the starting point. You learn the landscape make frens and find where your tribes are, you can worry about how to configure your relays after, especially if you're following others who have already done it.
Because nostr is better. Mastodon's (and likely all centralized social media's) capability is a subset of nostr's capabilities, you can have any level of openeness you care for.
this probably explains it most
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cc nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gprpmhxue69uhhwetvvdhk6efwdehhxarj9emkjmn9qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2yhtlun nostr:nprofile1qqsw3znfr6vdnxrujezjrhlkqqjlvpcqx79ys7gcph9mkjjsy7zsgygpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz8thwden5te0dehhxarj9ekh2arfdeuhwctvd3jhgtnrdakj7qgkwaehxw309ajkgetw9ehx7um5wghxcctwvshspg7dju nostr:nprofile1qqspz8vkaeknfpudjkhmlegtr7qwsyjk6anzw6u2ypx7x3sc2ftzgtspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68y6trdqhxgeg9t5nzw on ReasonTV. The interview that put nostr on the map for me and got me on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2JbHWd_BM
Multiple communties per relay is a mess especially private groups/communities. This is the simplest and most bang for your buck and doesn't need to be perfect. You can have hashtag feeds, why not feeds where you toggle what rooms you care to be in?
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Paper1: "we've release such and such dataset" hmmm. Yes, dataset is interesting. Who else has cited it to see what has been done. Oh! 30 citations. Interesting. What kind of scientific advancement has been made? the 29 citations: "there have been many ongoing efforts to organize {field}, such are {paper1}. Like them, we too have released a new fantastic dataset!" Much science. Much progress. Such insight 🙃