It says that these don’t make economic sense as massive, market dominating corporations. It means that on a bitcoin standard they would be far more distributed and competitive and the value provided would be catered to more specific and smaller audiences and would change more based on locale and other factors.
If you think that it means we can’t have what Amazon offers without a giant, corporate, unprofitable, VC backed institution to suck up the whole market and push everyone else out, then I think you are misunderstanding the nature of value and how the market provides it.
To the contrary, Amazon is *destroying* value, because there is a better and more economically sensible optimum for providing the service. Evidenced by the fact that without being subsidized and killing 1,000 competitors while losing money for a decade on cheap fiat loans and VCs, it wouldn’t have lasted. It would’ve had to provide net value *much* sooner and at a smaller scale.
Well then Amazon might not be the prime example for this problem then.
The frustrating thing is that we can’t know without ever having had real interest rates during that span. Although interest rates during the 90s were far closer to floating. It wasn’t until the early 2000s that the price controls got really bad.
I don’t like Trump, and I have very little faith in govt ever being a positive force. It’s at least never moved anywhere but in the wrong direction for my entire lifetime…
But, an RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek, Elon, and Ron Paul cabinet with the balls and conviction to try and fix things is really hard to not think would be awesome.
lol, this was a late night musing. Judging by the vitriol you responded with it’s clear you care WAY more about this than you should. Simmer down Mr Cheerful.
19 minutes isn’t a long block. Thats actually extremely common. It’s the 1+ hour blocks that are rare, but they also happen... most often when I need a transaction to go through quickly.
Man, having Alby Go plugged into my Start9 with Alby Hub is just the coolest and cleanest implementation.
The wallet is so basic, and having one tap zaps finally on iOS even is just awesome. It works fast. It stays connected and I haven’t gotten any errors yet. And I can read everyone’s Nostr zap notes because I get zaps straight to my sovereign Lightning wallet.
If this is a preview, the future is gonna be lit AF. 🔥
I believe he’s alluding to the fact that we don’t own our devices or what we can do on them these days. I mentioned iOS so figured that triggered the thought. Could be wrong tho 😆
Best thing was just remote wallet use and then my own personal mempool.space
But using it while away from the house has always been frustrating and slow. But with NWC and then with Holesail having the full app soon I think that problems gonna be solved.
I use my Start9 a lot but I can easily see my frequency if using it double very quickly with these new tools integrated.
Cash App is super underrated. I’ve gotten a bunch of people into using Bitcoin simply because I was able to show them how easy it was with their Cash App. I just tell them how to get their address or Lightning invoice and then send them some. The rest of the process is self evident
The first mention of it is in a 2013 bitcoin talk forum post. Then it became the photo meme we all know and love, and maybe 2-3 years ago I finally made it into a video meme… and that’s the end of our history lesson. 😆
Stale? You mean lack of updates? If that’s what you mean, then don’t worry stuff is definitely on the way, it’s just a big improvement so lots of edges to clean up.
Ah I don’t think there’s much activity on the GitHub page. Everyone hangs out and stays updated in the Keet room. It’s active every day if you have questions or want to know anything.
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I still don’t think these things are at odds with each other. But I’d love to see Nostr clients integrate either the pear stack or pubky to drop the “barrier to relay” dramatically.
Everyone is so opinionated and aggressive about shit that is so unimportant sometimes 😂
I can’t imagine why it would be a problem to use either. Sure mainline is way bigger, but there’s also reasons to potentially have a new ecosystem and set of tools for certain things. But of course it’s still way smaller than the one with 25 years of history and network effect. Especially since they haven’t yet turned their attention to the tools with simple UX to replicate and distribute the DHT yet, because they’re still trying to prove out the applications to get developers interested. Resources are limited, everything is a trade off.
I think we are forgetting that all of the above are VASTLY better than centralized, permissioned platforms, and that what we build on is largely a matter of preference and what exactly you want to do with it… imo.
The best way to find out when the establishment is hiding something or when a "conspiracy theory" is true, is to carefully read the "fact check" that is pushed everywhere.
If you know what to look for you'll spot them quickly. How many times they add an unimportant or needlessly specific detail to a claim and then only refute that detail. Or that throughout the entire thing it's a series of mild caveats with no hard data, or obvious hand waving like "both sides were there" without addressing the difference between them or going out of their way not to mention the massive discrepancy.
A simple example from the other day:
The Claim = "There are zero cases of autism or chronic illnesses in Amish community because they are unvaccinated"
The Fact Check = "Some Amish get vaccinated too. There are definitely cases of Amish having cancer, chronic illnesses, and autism."
What they DID do:
• Used "zero cases" as their very easy metric to shut down because its an impossible claim, rather than addressing the obvious point of the claim, that there's a vast difference.
• Pointed to some specific person saying this thing and the loose information they had to back it up at that specific time. "He based this off interviewing a few dozen Amish, NoT SciEnCe." Rather than again, actually talking about the issue or looking at real data.
What they did NOT do:
• They never discussed the vast difference between the two populations.
• They never shared investigations or brought up information about whether there was actually a difference between the vaccinated or unvaccinated Amish, even disregarding the difference from the wider population.
• They shared the same old post-hoc uncontrolled studies of vaccinated populations, without any data from the Amish or a less vaccinated population to compare to, in order to justify the same old "it's safe" narrative.
Basically it was a lesson in political framing and narrative posturing. The fact is, either they directly refused to bring up the hard data and actually address the issue, OR they couldn't find any real data to support their "fact check" (ie. they had zero facts to actually refute the problem posed) revealing the legitimacy of the concern, rather than it being a falsehood.
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It's important for us to understand that everything you read from everyone has a degree of unreliability. The "conspiracy theorists" are incentivized to believe and find info that proves that every disease since the beginning of time was caused by Big Pharma. While the establishment is going to twist and caveat everything into confusing nonsense and simply try to make anyone who says anything that deviates from The Narrative™️ seem crazy, strawman their claim, or associate them with someone with no credibility. This is universal.
It's often in the defense that you will find the threads you should pull on. It's what they DONT refute. What they refuse to provide data on. Or the issue they avoid talking about that will reveal where they have no foundation to stand on.
For the people who know what to look for, you'll find the "fact checkers" themselves to be one of your best resources for finding out whether or not they are completely full of shit.
Happy Diffie-Hellman Day!
On November 1st, 1976, a paper was released to the world titled "New Directions in Cryptography" by Whitfield Diffie & Martin E. Hellman. Marking the first practical protocol for safely exchanging cryptographic keys over a public channel. Initially conceptualized by Ralph Merkle, and then actualized in the Diffie-Hellman key exchange. https://i.nostr.build/xNdwKrRhtMTFkDk1.jpg
Dereck you can’t possibly believe there was nothing fraudulent from the D’s in the 2020 election. You are much smarter than that.
Answer me this. If in one of the most critical counties in the most critical states, the losing Republican candidate was suddenly getting a last minute surge of votes, and the Dem validators were shoved out of the room, the door was locked, and ONLY the republican checkers were in the room, and the Republican candidate ended up winning with a landslide of last minute votes. The when the Dems contested it, after literal physical altercations with police trying to get in the room to do the ONE job that is required for them to do. Then it goes to court and instead of getting verification and a simple count, it’s declared “legitimate” because they could see through the window 40 feet away that the vote was being tallied by a room full of Republicans… Tell me you don’t have a problem with that scenario and that you would just trust them.
I cannot believe you are that dense because I have too much respect for you
If you have 1,000 hardware wallets and only do multisig, then you can actually make your wallet safe against brute forcing because there are so many different combinations that you’ll never generate the same ones. There’s like a million different possible combinations 🤣🤣
This is not unlike my own setup actually. Honestly a burglar would spend weeks just trying to figure out what TF any of it means and where all of the wallets are and which seeds even have anything on them, and that’s literally if they managed to get ahold of everything somehow 🤣🤣
Like Satoshi said, “there’s not really any reason to ever delete old keys”…. so I never do 😆
Happy Whitepaper Day!
Apparently a lot of people dress up as scary creatures and give out candy in celebration of the Bitcoin Whitepaper. Seems weird but I’m all for however you want to celebrate! 😆
The ONLY reason I can’t use @fountain_app exclusively for podcast is because of how garbage the podcast index is at searching my own show.
If I search “Bitcoin Audible Whitepaper” then despite 100s of results not a SINGLE episode of my show is even there. If I search the same in Spotify, the episode with the whitepaper is, obviously, the top result.
This has been going on forever and it’s so fucking annoying. I’ve contacted the guys who literally made the podcast index, and have tried to sort this out on maybe a dozen different occasions in the past 2 years, and it’s still complete trash.
It’s impossibly retarded. Like I CANT search my show on it, at all. It makes every other thing about the app almost useless because I can’t even direct anyone to it. Literally every single time I want to share my podcast, I have no way to get the link from the Podcast Index. Which is just so stupid to me.
The problem I'm referring to isn't with @fountain_app, its the index they connect to for aggregating podcasts. And i still just haven't figured out why its such an awful search system or what is even happening. That's what makes it suck. Fountain has been great for me in every other regard, but the podcast index project has made it unusable for me because of one really stupid and fixable barrier that just isn't getting fixed.
That's what im referring to in the OP. The podcast 2.0 index is the thing that has the problem, which is making @merryoscar have to rebuild the whole thing and implement something different.
If i could figure out what the hell is happening with the podcast 2.0 index I'd LOVE to just get it fixed, but i've been trying for a very long time and it hasn't changed in at least 2+ years.
They are having to build their entire own index to fix it. Sucks because if we could just fix the podcast 2.0 index this wouldn't be an issue. Causing a ton of unnecessary work
Doesn't need to build something different, just fix whatever the indexing problem is with the one that's already there. I just don't know how unfortunately.
Paper is the only current option. However a secure voting system isn’t that hard either. There are numerous proposals that would work, transition would simply be difficult. But it’s not even necessary, simple is better for something like this and there’s nothing wrong with paper ballots. You just have to distribute the operation of verifying better. Simple proof is a great example of how good it could be
Sure, there’s more than just open source to the problem. But anything else is meaningless without it being open source and verifiable first.
It’s the equivalent of taking paper ballots, having ONE person count all of them, then put them in a pile and burn them all. Then saying that it’s been verified because the guy told us what they were.
It doesn’t fix democracy because the idea is already fundamentally broken. But it does stop a viciously stupid and brazen fraud that makes things worse for no reason and is really easy to fix
So people think that they should get infinite free support from paid employees that crowds out people who actually bought the product when they made a custom device and downloaded a free, open source, secure, custom OS that took years to build and get working properly and they think they are entitled to someone else's time and assistance because... why exactly?
@Start9 you guys should change it to $100 a year honestly. You really want to keep the communists out of the group. Just sayin.
$100 pays for maybe an hour or two of someone's time. Literally. That is a painfully cheap price point to get *lifetime* support for someone who is using software someone else built and gave them for free. People acting like the internet doesn't exist, jesus christ.
There's endless free support from hundreds of helpful bitcoiners on Nostr and social, but I don't expect Start9 to fund it for no reason.
We can just go to BTCSessions youtube channel or search the web or peruse the github or stackoverflow or whatever. There is literally no shortage of places where we can all get tons of help with these devices and the open source community around it. I am also happy to help, but I'm not *obligated* to do so, and I certainly don't think Start9 is after they built an awesome OS and made it open source and available when they pay a lot of money to their employees and have very precious and limited time to devote to it.
And sorry, don't give me the "$25 would've been fine" because people would've complained about that too. The simple fact is no one is obligated to pay a high price for support to help random users who provide nothing to them, and nobody should expect them to.
The only proper response is "thank you" and moving on. They owe nobody anything. LESS so because they already gave us *enormous* value entirely for free despite them probably spending a few hundred thousand building it, maybe more. It being open source is *less* of a reason to demand something from them, not more.
TL;DR
Open source is a COMMUNITY, not someone building something for us for free and then dedicating their life to support also for free, while we all demand more from them. It is US who are obligated to give support to each other if we want it. Start9 owes us nothing.
I agree in some respects, except that the whole point was to dump it on somebody else. Many of the ATH payments are VERY likely total bullshit that got the next guy to pay $500K thinking he caught a great opportunity.
I don't know of a good way except to call them out publicly and label them what they are.
Also important to build strong communities that refuse to accept that shit and then outlast the fools who get swindled by them.
There is no short term solution that doesn't feel like hacking at the branches, imo. But long term I think consistency of message, calling them out, and showing and reminding everyone of the outcome over and over is the only decent option on the table.
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