Oddbean new post about login | logout The Q3 2023 Twitter Migration report is out: https://www.deweysquare.com/digital/twitter-migration-report/ It shows Nostr is holding steady after Threads tsunami. We’ve got users, interest, and development but we’re stuck in a bitcoin / crypto echo chamber. The problem isn’t the tech directly so much as culture. How can we cultivate millions of communities with their own values and norms. Sure they can use lightning for payments, but mostly people won’t be here because they believe in nostr or bitcoin. In fact for both to succeed we need folks who don’t care about the underlying tech at all.
Should it be a case of "If you build it, they will come?" If or once they tire of the walled gardens of big tech security. It must be organic or it won't be sustainable, they'll jump off just like with Threads.
Ce serait bien mais petit à petit en interagissant ensemble je me suis rendue qu'entre pros dans certaines d'activités nous pouvons construire pour aider la plus des personnes qui sont en souffrance du fait de difficultés socioprofessionnelles ou ayant des troubles liées au handicap psychique ou mental ou faire de la prévention et l'écoute auprès
auprès des personnes en difficultés dans tous les continents. C'est grâce à un nostriche d'Espagne qui a un réseau en Amérique Centrale et Sud qu'on s'est rendu de tout ce que nous pouvons faire ensemble pour apporter notre aide, regard et orientation vers des centres adaptés ou juste un lieu d'écoute pour ceux en souffrance psychique ou mental ou exposé à la toxicomanie ou autres. Nous restent de voir des biais virtuels ou téléphones
way too much bitcoin meme type content in nostr at moment for normal non-tech users other walks of life to be here. only other good stuff foodstr ! this echo chamber atmosphere will change users from other topics keep posting. major "real tech bitcoin stuff content" is still outside of nostr
Probably, need to start with more content and/or user discoverability. Most people probably have been used to how centralized social media operated. 😅
I feel that we need better understanding as a community that nostr is not Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is not nostr. They're both awesome and they complement each other perfectly -- but they are two individual things that stand on their own. You can be on nostr and not be a bitcoiner. Right? Right? nostr:nevent1qqsz9lycqkkg34ce0m2m648krt2c97m69m8rdpxlu267t25mhyuyregppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47srqsqqqqqp4lg6vx
I disagree. Everyone is intrigued by the workings of #money in some way, be it the social aspect, history, being rich or whatever. The current #fiat system however, blocks further understanding by the masses because it is to difficult and they don't want you too. Just be patient. The more people use #bitcoin, the more normal it is for them to try to understand it. We need to guide them. nostr:nevent1qqsz9lycqkkg34ce0m2m648krt2c97m69m8rdpxlu267t25mhyuyregpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqzypmvwx4w8fy378v7a3ruhgt7y2wd5sgn5zamde4wzamdwep798905qcyqqqqqqggtn4nl
People stick around if they are getting noticed. Give likes to posters who are making quality posts on topics you may not usually like. Sports, tech, art etc.
La musique , l'histoire, l'évolution de nos sociétés, modes de vies ,les voyages, les différents modes de vie, la cuisine, la politique, géopolitique, l'économie, la sociologie, l'actualité internationale, le monde des arts , nos classiques , l'architecture, l'évolution de nos sociétés, en termes de lois, de droits ( prévention des risques, travail et sociétés, le monde du handicap, les outils d'adaptation aides techniques et humaines, prévention des risques de vulnérabilités sociales ....
Maybe we all need start posting all types of content that may be going to other platforms now and not filtered out stuff that suits the current crypto narrative. A bigger point: regular users don’t care about the tech. Nostr has been mainly for builders in the beginning but nostr marketing should be more Mac vs. PC ads (benefits vs. features). If you just assume that stuff works (as it should and it already does mainly) then it’s about whom to connect with and what to share. https://youtu.be/1PwiljBN5-8 https://youtu.be/1afdX2yz0-o nostr:note1yt7fspdv3rt3jlk4h420vxk4stah5tkwx6zdlc44uk4fhwfcg8js7g9j2p
The problem is the tech. Why would people move to something new if the new thing isn't as polished as what they are used.
💯👇 nostr:nevent1qqsz9lycqkkg34ce0m2m648krt2c97m69m8rdpxlu267t25mhyuyregpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsygrkcud2uwjfruweamz8ewshug5umfq38g9mkmn2u9mk6ajru2w2lgpsgqqqqqqsuqkpru
I subscribe to a lot of press sites (bots) that I found on nostr band. They stimulate discussion on topics other than Bitcoin and nostr because they report news on a variety of topics.
“The Nostr platform, which our scans found holding a steady but small following as an X alternative, may be unknown to those who are not engaged in the cryptocurrency development communities. It is challenging to measure Nostr using web traffic because it's a decentralized social media platform. It's also debatable even inside the Nostr communities as to how to track Nostr from within the network in order to identify unique human accounts rather than spam or bots. We will keep watching the Nostr space, especially looking to see if it breaks out of its “crypto niche” in which it now lives.“ The Developer Migration: “As Musk and Yaccarino continue to express the ambition that X will become a single “Everything App” — and moved in that direction by making it more difficult for outside developers to work with the platform — third-party application developers have moved to greener pastures. In addition to this more developer-unfriendly environment, there is an increasing trend and interest by developers in the emerging “open social web” and developing “open social protocols” such as ActivtyPub (which powers Mastodon), the AT Protocol (that powers Bluesky), and to a lesser extent the Nostr protocols.” nostr:note1yt7fspdv3rt3jlk4h420vxk4stah5tkwx6zdlc44uk4fhwfcg8js7g9j2p
"the problem is the culture" ... What? #nostr culture is the best experience in social media and no I will not stop talking about Bitcoin nostr:nevent1qqsz9lycqkkg34ce0m2m648krt2c97m69m8rdpxlu267t25mhyuyregprpmhxue69uhhqatzd35kxtnjv4kxz7tfdenju6t0qgs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47srqsqqqqqpdv5a78
I agree here. We need diversity and also methods for people to create content streams that align with specific interests. Nostr = btc is fine for a starting place but it needs to be broader than that to go mainstream. Conversely we need nostr apps that are more than Twitter like timelines. Apps with private relays were cohorts of people can work on things with specific intent. We are building a nostr slack for that use case. Devs who want to help on this project are free to DM me anytime. We are also looking at a Reddit alternative with a beautiful UI where topics and communities of focus are easier to find and cultivate.
We have a difficult image problem to overcome. Most people on Bluesky who have heard of the Nostr think it’s full of Nazis and crypto bros. They usually block anyone who mentions it.
Try this for diversity. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin, Crypto or Nostr. @Urzeitshop 😉
From a design point of view, a solution must be 10x its predecessor, or existing users won't migrate. Nostr is 10x for privacy lovers and those with something to lose; for others who care about comfort and ease of use, the duper mine effect of algorithmic social media, or the size of the audience, Nostr cannot appeal to them just yet.
I recently started this account to post insta/tiktok type viral videos. Trying to get more carried content on nostr. nostr:nevent1qqsvn5kaf3st0ls29n3l099whpnnxkurttprrk3qa60650crhrh53lqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqzyppgyklmtpwk44qqv77y9gdjdc3sfr6s8yat6zzjme6j9yjrmprtvqcyqqqqqqgp3zlgr
Err varied
zap.stream could aspire to pick up twitch streamers, who want an alternative space. Things like that work well for normie onboarding. They might not be interested in the whole nostr thing per say, but things that work.
thanks for sharing this @Rabble - I love how this topic has been close to your heart, and you have triggered many great inputs and ideas in this thread and over time as well. But more so, its really nice to see so many agreements and disagreements and people just debating about this openly without attacking anyone.
That's why I'm here trying to hold down the other side of conversations. nostr:nevent1qqsz9lycqkkg34ce0m2m648krt2c97m69m8rdpxlu267t25mhyuyregppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzqak8r2hr5jglrk0wc37t59lz98x6gyf6pwaku6hpwakhvslznjh6qvzqqqqqqy6k8qtz
To be clear. There’s nothing wrong with an enthusiastic bitcoiner community on nostr. In fact it’s really important to sustaining nostr. What I’m saying is we need to make it easy for other kinds of communities to and find their space. Some people care about knitting or Brazilian Jitsu, coffee, or drag, or tons of other things. Think of all the subreddits. Right now you join and see mostly people talking about bitcoin. We don’t make it easy to find the other people and content. The communities features help. Getting more kinds of content helps. Working on discovery helps. Making tools for enabling folks to enforce community boundaries helps like ability to opt in to shared mute / follow / content warnings. And some kind of algorithms for finding and recommending content and people. We can solve this.