there's many elements to this not really possible

a relay block list would be a good one, so you never send to relays you don't trust

the most important events that you don't want leaking are your app data and DMs, this is also about relays and their actual codebase and policies implemented therein

many relays just give those events out to whoever asks for them, it is a critical element of a functioning system IMO that at least relays make a decent effort to not leak your metadata events

the absolute level of invisibility to your enemies cannot be achieved without centralization, which means your enemy has a proxy to attack you with 

 I'm not viewing this in terms of enemies... I just want to have pleasant exchanges with people. I don't think he's an attacker, but if an exchange is unpleasant, I don't want a repeat.  

 yeah, there is a weaksauce attitude towards actually blocking shit in the dev culture of social networks in general

this is a product of the mindset of Reddit and what a fucking army of remote controlled retards they are

i point this out to people who build these clients, to like, you know, not have fucking revealers for muted shitheads... but they ain't listening, and it's really fucking obvious if you don't want to hear it you don't... fucking... want to hear it

makes me so crazy i could scream sometimes how obviously these people have been conditioned to the "if you have nothing to hide" meme 

 Haha remote controlled retards, I love that, I'm stealing it 

 No nip can "solve" it, once your notes are out on the relays, nobody can control what other people can view. It's a trade off to also ensure you can't be censored  

 I like not being censored. I don't want anything that compromises that. But I also think fences make good neighbors. 

 The hostility is all is your head bro.

I apologize for teasing you. That I did do.

(but did you really need to get pissy just because someone tells you "you're not in control?") 

 I didn't get pissy. I said, basically, that nihilism is dumb. I then see you making an assumption about me and broadcasting it. What does that look like to me? What are you here for?  

 Its up to you isn't it?
you decided on violence.

and what I said wasn't nihilistic.
again, that was just your interpretation.

so
sorry for the misunderstandings 👋 

 My brothers in Nostr, you are both at a point of reflection.

We study ripples in a pond. We know where a rock broke the surface, but we don’t know from where it was thrown.

Comte is trying to sharpen his sword (his mind). Kanzan says to sharpen your sword is at least partially out of one’s control. The God/Universe decides the quality of stone one can find to use for sharpening. 

 Cheers bro.

I'm saying its all God in the end.
Even "my sword"

Thanks for jumping in. 

 https://coinos.io/login

Go there. Only a username and password (just save it if you don’t want to lose your sats). No other info. Go to receive (looks like arrow pointing down into palm of a hand). Copy address that will look like *********@coinos.io 
go to your profile (not sure what client you are on) press edit. Lighting address. Put it in there. Now I can zap you.

if you are on Damus mobile, there might be one extra step. I’ll wait. 

 Okay I think I did it. Took a minute but found the perfect avatar with green energy and crazy eyes 

 Congrats, I just zapped you. Sweet 

 Nice, I see it. One sec, I'll send it back 

 I don't think my zap back worked. Phone asked for an app for a one second before the popup disappeared. But... Maybe. Are you seeing it? 

 No, it will show in coinos that you sent. This is a separate thing to handle. What app are you using? You will want to look for NWC Nostr Wallet Connect. When connected, you will send from that wallet (maybe receive) can’t remember. @Vic does NWC just to send sats or to receive also?

once you find where NWC is in your app, go to coinos and press the home button. Next to your balance you will see a gear for settings. Press it and it gives you the NWC info you will need to supply to the app.

lot of ways to do this, im just walking you through one. 

 nwc is for sending 

 K I think that's what I need. Need to find where it goes in amethyst... 

 long press the lightning symbol on a note to configure NWC in amethyst 

 I can never help once we get to the android side of things 

 Ahhh thanks. Was about to say I couldn't find it 

 Ehhh... I see three options but none looks like NWC could stand for that 

 Got it maybe kind of... Pasted from clipboard, saved, sent... Now the little circle progress bar thingy is going but stopped right before completing the circle 

 I'm getting rich here with all your zaps, but it doesn't seem to want to let me zap back... 

 Restart the app and try again? If I had android I could help more. If it takes NWC then it should work no matter. 

 This is how far it gets. The little purple circle. I just restarted the whole phone, no effect. I think I must have missed something in setting it up

https://image.nostr.build/0a8e5ff951225fbd5aa44e16535df4cc609893b25fd8786c1bae94638815151b.jpg 

 I don’t think there is much to miss. Maybe @Vitor Pamplona knows how Coinos and Amethyst are currently working together. 

 Maybe the guys at nostr:nprofile1qqst4qyeqenw7zm0fwjsty68h6cnys5jre2xd8ngqpjv5a2j26s78fspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm0d9hx7uewd9hj75a0pev can get you sorted? They are usually pretty responsive. 

 Yeah good idea. Hey nostr:nprofile1qqst4qyeqenw7zm0fwjsty68h6cnys5jre2xd8ngqpjv5a2j26s78fspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm0d9hx7uewd9hj75a0pev help me out. I'm using Amethyst and sending zaps isn't working, though receiving is 

 Calling in the big shots @Derek Ross I don’t have android Amethyst. Does Coinos NWC work on amethyst or are we missing something? 

 Huh. For some reason that fact makes me like both of you a little more.  

 he didnt like me pointing out that he doesn't understand Unit of Account 😂

But frankly, I find it kind of strange that people want to curate the information that they are exposed to.
like unless somebody is stalking you, you can just not respond, right?

 

 Lol your mute list is hilarious. 

 do I have one???

I've always been sort of proud of not muting anybody!

except spammers I guess... 

 I can't even find the list... But don't tell me, I'm trying to get zapping working. Just restarted the phone, cuz that's all my dumb ass knows how to do 

 I mean who has muted you 

 lol
is it a who's-who of Bitcoin Maxis?

how do you find that list?? 👀👀 

 Not sure if this link is going to work…

https://nostrudel.ninja/#/u/npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa/muted-by

but go to nostrudel, add relays, look yourself up, Scroll to the far right of (About, Notes, Articles….) You will see muted by 

 It works. Looks like nostr:nprofile1qqs0npwnpyvheqz7zuvuwvv9k460c0hyqlturds40hhfn34vufvehwcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszymhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4ej7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcp20sua got muted by guy swann... There should be an award for that 

 I've been muted by... Ben justman. And a few npubs with no name.  

 he mutes me too, welcome to the club! 

 Looking at his timeline, he seems alright... Cool mullet. Ohhh maybe he didn't like that time I referred to mullets as a neck bush. That's not even that bad... He makes wine, so do I sometimes. Huh. Oh well. 

 influencoors gonna influence 

 well, he doesn't seem to now, not really sure now i know ben carman does but i thought i had a fight with him at one point... maybe i just unfollowed him lol, maybe i even muted him? lol 

 I’m sorry I showed you all what’s behind the curtain 😂 

 pfft
bunch of snowflakes

but i must not have the whole list. I don't see utxo. or maybe he saw the error of his ways... 

 Yeah I don’t know 

 did you not get my response in DMs?
maybe your client doesnt support giftwrapping? 

 It’s weird. I got a notification that you reacted but couldn’t see it in this client. I’ll check the other.