Good luck to get your mom using lightning too haha what the fuck is this argument
It’s 1000% easier for the plebs to load a nice automated swap wallet for bitcoin Monero is dead stop wasting your money
The data says otherwise monero is used way more than bitcoin which is dieng as payment option nostr:nevent1qqs89sjren6yd3uvalst63tl2335ren57q307ywdc2u9vea0kk03sxspg3mhxw309ahhsarjv3jhvctkxc685d35093rw7pkwf4xwdrww3a8z6ngv4jx6dtzx4ax5ut4d36kw6mwdpa8ydpkdeunyutzv9jzummwd9hkutczypsd2dn47p77a8naw7gsa7jydqkc0j6nyvfm5e4c73zf6ey3wg5kkqcyqqqqqqgkxd0mt
Yeah I forgot, to receive funds lightning you must have funds before. Your "swap" won't work on-demand until youre using a custodial solution.
Pleb grandmas don’t need their own channels, side chain swaps, ecash, fedimints all coming online this year and will be built for advanced users and grandmas alike. Unlike monero where if you don’t understand it perfectly you can’t use it at all. It’s very simple- if we want to beat the bankers, we have to take away their customers. Your not going to do that with some anon-LARP token
Lightning maximum capacity is 5k Bitcoin in fact last time I saw was only 1k Btc, Imagine ecash the only mint audited I saw had 1k USD of liquidity. This is the real larp Lightning is not taking customers of anyone.
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Comparison between transactions of BTC vs XMR nostr:nevent1qqs9ls5pyt0ujslnq3v05r4f0rdy0hfay3aumh2u0n6jzxhuazxdyrgpg3mhxw309ahhsarjv3jhvctkxc685d35093rw7pkwf4xwdrww3a8z6ngv4jx6dtzx4ax5ut4d36kw6mwdpa8ydpkdeunyutzv9jzummwd9hkutczyq6x2x5njtf5h7wsvn3e70qshmhhfd0z3ecscpejgvtmdp7y40t7sqcyqqqqqqg9u4v3x
Meanwhile lightning and ecash https://image.nostr.build/93b075e6035ec30b25955ef26c7dbffbb1b9cd5ef60222cf1539255e5836b07f.jpg https://image.nostr.build/3b3a571a0a6178c5c993104213861c1d7ab1789467701bcff7651d70d180954a.jpg https://image.nostr.build/95e27daf5a57c5ac807d2461bc72283c409a03371002171749d292fa798595a1.jpg
there are 11 rollups listed on l2beat.com that each have more money deposited into them than the lightning network. out of these only two of the rollups can really be considered non-custodial at this point in time, but those two have capacity equivalent to 209,240 BTC and 96,572 BTC respectively, compared to lightning's 5,207 BTC. and a huge chunk of the BTC on lightning is held inside custodial wallet providers. so lightning isn't just losing against monero in usage, particularly non-custodial usage, it is also losing against rollups.
Every day Monero is getting more ground. https://image.nostr.build/635f3e6aa1382c84ed64504bbfe99c3391e844caf2626f2e24e9d10fe33af0a6.jpg
I think it's because bitcoiners don't trade their sata for shitcoins
Cope
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No one is arguing yet they continue https://image.nostr.build/969ab8fa401da5038041a2dd84ada3d03dea8f9e7f7f77b35804e5feeacadbf3.jpg
Huh. I had no idea Monero was that active. Pretty damn cool. I would be fine with Monero being priced against a Bitcoin standard. Seems the core of BTC doesn't want payments on the L1 and scaling is a problem on L2's at the moment. Monero is an obvious choice in that case, since Bitcoin is taking the role of SoV.
Ah yes, ecash. It has the ruggable properties that Monero has been missing! 🥳 https://image.nostr.build/8023c863b312e96c929fa313c941ef8bd2e9d3fd74a28d53458bb50ba9ddd481.png
What perfect knowledge an user needs ? Just get monero.com wallet. Addresses are changing everytime you receive and you additionally can use Tor just by launching Orbot.
How easy is it to run a monero node and provide your own chain data?
Easy as running any node. Running an executable nothing more.
As easily as running a Bitcoin node https://apps.umbrel.com/app/monero https://image.nostr.build/fc68b9a303ec340f24f9a02fd909bb69a0a311e90a91211ef897903ce8aa0711.jpg
I don't know where you became so confused along the way, but every custodial bitcoin scaling solution is banking. doesn't matter if it's a fedimint or a centralized sidechain stapled to a lightning dex. those are all custodial and they are banking. you are cheerleading for people to put bitcoins into a bank account where they can be stolen or frozen. grandma does in fact need her own channels, or it's not her money. you support banking.
'Unlike monero where if you don’t understand it perfectly you can’t use it at all.' What's there to understand? Create a wallet, put xmr in wallet, use it as needed. Far simpler than all you listed. And built-in privacy. Its gets no simpler than that.