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 I understand network effects man. Why Meta, Apple, Google, Microsoft have the upper hand. The network effect is massive to overcome. My argument is nostr does not need marketing to overcome them. All it needs is time. Same as BTC. The network effect of the dollar is the absolute biggest one on the planet. Just like nostr, Bitcoin will not overcome it's network effect for potentially decades.  
 Yup. Nostr and Bitcoin are singularities with large pull, because on open networks your competition is helping you grow rather than stealing energy from you like a zerosum system.

Nostr and Bitcoin are positive sum 
 Bitcoin has the luxury of time far more than Nostr does.

Why?

Because fiat money is actively collapsing. The need for bitcoin is stronger, and while it’s a more significant change (money is the base language) it’s got time on its side.

Nostr on the hand, if it doesn’t achieve some sort of escape velocity in the next 2-5yrs, is going to be relegated to the fringe because centralised providers are “good enough” for most people, and/or other networks will emerge (see the work TBD is doing for DIDs, and there’s much more).

The mistake is to think their paths are equivalent. They’re not. Bitcoin has a century to win. Nostr…a decade or two. Or somewhere thereabouts. 
 🤝 Well I'm building a relay to help nostr flourish. Thank you for entertaining our conversation and your insightful replies. We're in this together even if we may disagree on some things.