Oddbean

Derek, I appreciate you. I know we sit on different sides of this but I like that on nostr we follow each other and talk about it even if we don't agree. I posted it because I think it's worth discussing. I find it interesting that these "glitches" seem to only go in one direction. Have you seen it go in the other direction? Not being sarcastic here but tone doesn't carry well online. Second, I do think small scale fraud/cheating is possible and in an election that was as close as the last or this that can have big impacts. Last there are videos of people in leadership positions within dominion gloating about how they rigged things. So could it be faulty hardware sure... could it be more ... I think so. I don't expect you to agree and that's life.

It's cool man. We good. I haven't seen anything going the other way because I don't really pay attention to this. If it comes across my feed I'll commet on it. It's all just so tiring and mentally draining. After the last election where Republicans claimed fraud and every single instance of fraud was done by a Republican voting for Trump, it seems like it's projection as normal. Could there be more fraud on the other side? Yes. We just haven't seen it yet. IMO, since Trump has been claiming fraud for months, he's been setting the narrative. If you say something enough times, people will believe it. Even if it's not true, they'll question it. This is all that is happening here, IMO. Remember. Dude is a liar, a criminal, a grifter, etc. He always has been. What makes this any different than his past actions? If people tell you who they are, we should believe them. So, question it and look for answers? Absolutely. That's what I did here. From my experiences, to me, this looks like a legitimate technical issue. It could be large scale or it could also be a few faulty units. People return mobile devices all of the time because of bad LCD panel batches. I have. I remember buying a cheap Acer tablet for my son from Walmart. It functioned just like these videos. I returned it. Maybe this is what needs to happen here 😂 Go back to paer ballots. My technology backwards county still uses paper ballots. They're just counted via machine. Machines that I helped install back in 2006-ish.

Understood and agreed on the dude is not a good man. I would say it's hard to have a good character person that high up in politics nowadays. I am also tired and I have also bought my share of cheap android tablets and have had screen issues. I mentioned this in another thread but worked at a place where 50% of online purchase attempts were fraudulent so in a system with this many people I expect it. Part of modern times unfortunately. I don't expect either side to fix the country so most my energy goes towards btc. Not sure that fixes everything either tbh but more hopeful. Appreciate you and your thoughts.

Dereck you can’t possibly believe there was nothing fraudulent from the D’s in the 2020 election. You are much smarter than that. Answer me this. If in one of the most critical counties in the most critical states, the losing Republican candidate was suddenly getting a last minute surge of votes, and the Dem validators were shoved out of the room, the door was locked, and ONLY the republican checkers were in the room, and the Republican candidate ended up winning with a landslide of last minute votes. The when the Dems contested it, after literal physical altercations with police trying to get in the room to do the ONE job that is required for them to do. Then it goes to court and instead of getting verification and a simple count, it’s declared “legitimate” because they could see through the window 40 feet away that the vote was being tallied by a room full of Republicans… Tell me you don’t have a problem with that scenario and that you would just trust them. I cannot believe you are that dense because I have too much respect for you

I think that Democrats skewing towards mail-in at the time gives this credibility, but I think there were too many anomalies to dismiss the entire thing. It doesn't look right to me. It goes both ways though. In 2016, it was the other side calling fraud. I say this as an outsider who isn't a fan of Trump outside of entertainment value. One thing I will never understand is the persistence against voter ID, which would theoretically protect everyone involved.

Yup, holiday would be a step in the right direction too. Unfortunately I have lost all faith in voting due to lack of real change between parties. No matter who is in, things have been trending down for all people, except those in government.

The neocons in the Republican Party rigged the Florida count in 2000, and the neocons in then Democratic Party rigged the Pennsylvania vote count in 2020. The only reason why you can't come to terms with that reality is this irrational identification with a party label.

We don't really know. It's so extremely rare. For example in my state, Pennsylvania, 39 cases of voter fraud were identified or 0.000039% of the more than 100+ million ballots cast over the last 30 years.

I think you will always "find" what youre looking for if you look hard enough. And i think voting machines are garbage. Combine those things and you have people who have been told "they're going to cheat to win the election", "finding" ways that they're being cheated via garbage voting machines. And social media adds gas to the fire.