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SaberhagenTheNameless | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +4 
 I think everything you say is reasonable long-term if historical trends continue...

But as for the exposing yourself to loss on the scale of minutes comment is kind of silly. I don't think short term is the same. For example there are years, months, weeks, and days where Monero outperforms Bitcoin. Most of 2020 and all of the year of 2022 you would have made money if you swapped into Monero (it shows this in your own chart). The last 5 months straight (before September) Monero outperformed Bitcoin this year.

For swapping short term it is anyones guess which will do better. Sometimes you will be up, sometimes down. It pretty much cancels out on short time scales.
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Cyph3rp9nk | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Bitcoin makes all its upward movements in just 9 days a year, it is statistically proven, even less days, if one of those days you are in Monero you have screwed it.
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SaberhagenTheNameless | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +6 
 If you mostly save with Bitcoin and have a small stash of Monero that you are constantly using up and replenishing periodically, your exposure when this happens is fairly negligible

I'm not telling you to do this. I'm just saying it really is not a big deal in my experience. 

I experiment with the tools you mentioned too like ecash, lightning, and coinjoins. Each one has it's own advantages and downsides. I like the simplicity yet strong privacy of Monero personally and that is what I use the most for transactions.
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Sovereign Bear | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +6 
 It is unfortunate that anytime I want an easy private transaction nowadays, I never consider Bitcoin at any point. It's only ever Monero.
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SaberhagenTheNameless | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +3 
 Exactly. Time is also money. 

I'm losing time finicking with keeping to best privacy practices of lightning and maintaining it going forwards (running your own node, CJing before/after opening and closing channels, choosing who I want to have receiver privacy from: a proxy node wrapping invoices for me or the general public. Hopefully will get better once BOLT12 gains more adoption). Same thing with coinjoining with the addition of high fees. Ecash is the best UX of those, but I have the possibility of being rugged 100% of my money (accidentally or intentionally) hanging over me especially at these early stages.
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Sovereign Bear | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +6 
 I shut my lightning node down earlier this year, the risks and difficulty of setup and maintenance just wasn't worth it to me, especially as the value of Bitcoin went up.
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brito | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Don't even know what you are all talking about. Monero is really so simple by comparison and we get full privacy without questions.
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Kanzan | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 and this is not a good thing

but monero *is pretty fucking cool