Oddbean new post about login | logout Our phones spy on us Our cars spy on us Our software spies on us Our stores spy on us Our social media spies on us Our credit cards spy on us Our banks spy on us Our internet providers spy on us 3 letter agencies spy on us We could do with less spying.
They just want to help us. You know that don't you?
🤙 I suppose the Amish are spied on a whole lot less.
Wrong. They are on a "terrorist" watch list of account of their sovereignty.
There’s a whole story here I’m not going to go into it on here But if we ever meet lol
to think we wouldn’t have any proof if it wasn’t for edward snowden we would be called conspiracy theorists
We just want to live a reasonably enjoyable life. I’m told it was possible as a hunter/gatherer. Violence became very profitable for a while, but I’m glad violence doesn’t pay well anymore, with Bitcoin.
If you have no privacy you have no secrecy and bitcoin doesn't work. Spying fly will record your seed words for NSA
Privacy and secrecy are 2 completely different goals. Anyone who wants to spy has the ram given from the silicon chip. I don’t trust any of it. https://image.nostr.build/edb3f488cd5dfe642c7de5fb67e2302a71b3413a7d9798cb25cb59c10a858cc3.jpg
Humans organized for tyranny. Thus, we can organize for liberty. Full-on batshit liberty!
Yup, and with smart meters and the iot freaking dishwashers and toasters and refrigerators will be spying too
"Smart" insulation, the walls have ears
Wait is this really a thing? I mean anything seems possible these days, never heard of this tho 😅
Paranoia will destroy ya 💜 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jh9q3nqVnlM&list=PLdMBSsnuCnKdLhNmgJAgD8lBMKfJ3Y7x7&index=1&pp=iAQB8AUB
Paranoia is a valid worldview at this point
Yes! These very reasons are why we made the Sovran Pro! Let'sss gooo!
and for some people: Our refrigerators spy on us Our heat pumps spy on us Our clothes dryers spy on us
Heat pumps?
A good 5 years ago, installer suggested a heatpump with wi-fi and a phone app. I said "no, my heat pump is not going on the Internet. I am not going to manage another computer that needs updates all the time just to have a heat pump. Worse yet if it never gets updates."
If my heat pump doesn't post to nostr when I need to change my filter I don't want it!
The ever growing, ever encroaching Digital Panopticon.
Our insurance companies spy on us. Our investment houses spy on us. For some, our family and friends spy on us. Our coworkers spy on us. Our payroll providers spy on us. Our light bulbs, switches, security systems spy on us. Our vacuums spy on us. That’s it I have to stop. Thank #Satoshi for freedom money. Thank @fiatjaf for #nostr. Thank @jb55 for #damus
Absolutely right!
You forgot the "smart home", and AI... The most dangerous thing is AI
When you feel like you are alone, don't for get to say hi to your spies. nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qr0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgsxpqqqqqqzfggjex
The point-of-sale cannot spy on you if your bolt card service implements privacy measures. https://github.com/boltcard/boltcard/blob/main/docs/CARD_PRIVACY.md nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvupzqx78pgq53vlnzmdr8l3u38eru0n3438lnxqz0mr39wg9e5j0dfq3qvzqqqqqqyst5mhw
Light switches, light bulbs, receptacles, ovens.. spies everywhere
"What?? You must be a terrorist!!"
The trend is constant spying and surveillance. Unfortunately (not in this community) most people don't care about their privacy until it is violated. People want the convenience without understanding the cost in terms of freedom. By using an OS like GrapheneOS, and a faraday bag, with phone and service paid privately, you will still get spied on, but the information serves no one. By using standalone GPS unit, and not connecting your cell phone to your vehicle, there will be minimal information sent, see above. With properly sandboxed accounts, and single purpose login/password combinations, information cannot serve anyone. I agree these might be too technical for the average user, but it is certainly possible. In the physical world, spying will continue to be more pervasive as it is just going to get implemented in the name of "your protection." In Europe, worldcoin was immediately received by millions. The Federal Reserve will likely create the CBDC and call it something else. The only way is awareness, vigilance, and patience as these things take time to change. #privacy @GrapheneOS #cybersecurity
Is there a workaround for the car spying? That seems to be the one that you can't avoid anymore
Older cars don't have it. Mine doesn't.
The problem is those cars are too old and won’t be around much longer. We need another solution.
And they built them better back then. Ask the many ppl who have old cars. They hold well. New cars are worse. For example, Nissans had bad engines. A friend's 2-yo car stalled on the street and it will cost thousands to get a new engine when she still has payments on it. She was forced to buy another car cuz it's cheaper.
Indeed, the world is filled with many eyes and ears. But fear not, for the future holds promise. Seek balance, protect your privacy, and embrace the power of knowledge. The path to less spying lies within your choices.
It’s not really. If I wanted no spying I couldn’t have it. Even the Amish are probably watched more closely than all of us. If you choose to have a phone (which I believe most people do) then you are actively choosing to be spied on. Unless you drive an old or classic car, you’re spied on. Shop for food? …. These are not choices you can opt out of - they are our necessity now.
I have an old (lol) 2021 motorola defy, which I unlocked the firmware and at some time ran magisk on it. Now, I just want it to be a modem and run one app, which I want so I can have a house based alarm telling me when sunrise is coming up and when the sun goes into "night" mode. Did you know that the google "phone" app has by befault permissions to change system settings? And I witnessed it repeatedly doing so, re-enabling things and ignoring DND and all sorts. Yeah, I eventually shut that thing up but you know what? If you are looking for some motivation to move towards cutting the wireless mobile connection, just check the permissions on your phone's google phone app. You're welcome. I'm gonna do it pretty damn soon. Might need to fully root that damn thing and rip everything out of it that isn't a modem and router. But it will be worth it. It has literally already cost me a good 2 days of my life this last week with it's disobedience.
Its not always better apps/get off SM. Its putting better policies/Fines to get these Big tech companies to respect our Privicy.
It's fine most people would trade it for "security" or a CBDC welfare program or even for status or idk they would trade it for a peice of bread perhaps 🤔 nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9unytnwdaehgunrdpshgtnfduhsygqmcu9qzj9n7vtd5vl78jyly037wxkyl7vcqflvwy4eqhxjfa4yzypsgqqqqqqsrjhmdv
I need to figure out the phone thing. I like having one, but I hate having one. It knows every place I go. It hears everything I say. And I bought the fucking thing. I feel like a fool, honestly. The thing is, they really are amazing tools. Or could be.
I use a Pixel with Grapheme OS and no sim card !
go anonymous when possible. have several email accounts and aliases instead of using same one have several phone #s (VOIP, temp, etc) rarely give out true cellular # keep it safe, keep it secret. Don't blab your shit all over the place. use grapheneos phone use more private and secure email like protonmail. Also their VPN is good. use quad9 for DNS prefer privacy coins over bitcoin, eth and the like where possible.
I think I'm down to just #1, #8, and #9. If I used a VPN, Tor, an some other tools, I could getdown to #1. I don't think my banking apps would work without Google though. If I stack enough, those won't be needed. nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqgsph3c2q9yt8uckmgelu0yf7glruudvfluesqn7cuftjpwdynm2gygrqsqqqqqpkyew8x
People still really haven't appreciated how bad the car thing is. Or the phone thing. They think they do, but they don't. The full range of capabilities has yet to be used routinely — companies and states are both trying to keep it beneath the waterline. The public is intended to be unsure what it is that they're looking at, and why it matters. It is the news report playing in the background of a disaster movie. It is the half-glimpsed monster from a horror reel — implied, but never fully shown. History is still going to look back at this period with enormous bewilderment that we did not do more to stop what is coming. The signs were there. nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqygqmcu9qzj9n7vtd5vl78jyly037wxkyl7vcqflvwy4eqhxjfa4yzypsgqqqqqqswc2w8f
what can one do about the car thing?
Use an old car.
I pulled the fuse from the modem circuit in the car.
Pfft. Either participate or don’t, we all have a choice… in the end: “no one here gets out alive.” https://image.nostr.build/d1d26b1752684fc1a2d049b865945cbb174ea6f57eef6898c99dcd1feb9bd7e2.jpg
Tiktok blocks users for the account. Does that happen on other software programs? Also when I apply online for jobs its like some AI software spying technology. I answer questions based on what happened at jobs. You saw that with training at the hospital I'm sure. They have discrimination policy. The Sunnys BBQ asked me questions like we don't let employees vape at work are you ok with following that rule?
The articles I read about this said that the cars have hidden cameras recording us. I am extremely skeptical about this detail of the stories. Has anyone fact check this detail or found one of these cameras? Do the cars have a hidden mic/camera recording to a hard drive and a cell chip (paid by who?) to send data to cloud servers? Do the dealers offload the hidden video recordings? Does your cell phone transmit the video recordings when you connect your phone to Bluetooth? Anyway, I’m sure it’s all pretty awful but this one specific part of the story doesn’t add up to me. And the details around this would be interesting and worth knowing. If there really is hidden cameras in the cars, according the passengers, we should have a database where we identify where those are in which models and how to disable them.
@jack Example: Apparently I have a Carfax account “courtesy of the dealership” and somehow unbeknownst to me I was just given an “award” badge for car maintenance and along with stats. Top 11% for a car?! This account monitors *everything* on my car. The good is that it can warn me and bring my attention to defects or needed maintenance or even possibly detect danger. The trade off is privacy. What happens if I don’t get regular oil changes and tire rotations?! Obviously there is some sort of hidden metrics and scoring system already in place that no one else is privy to. It can be very dangerous for people who can’t perfectly maintain their car on schedule. Like will they be downgraded or something? How do “underwriters” or whoever else use this data?!💖 https://image.nostr.build/2a3a2f6e8704d3ad78210fb7d650cbc7b70bd9d519142ffec3fb090e7bdef3d1.jpg https://image.nostr.build/33dd981dce2a9f21d6be28f591da2e09d32efe7421ac1aa1e797cbbe55f36dd7.jpg
We tend to use only the rear view mirror. It seems inevitable that we'll respond after the fact, and and probably too late.
This is part of the "package" I'm working with
Oh look, somebody not feeling good when the false cores and corruption is not working
Who let you out of the cage
Are those satanic versed confessions supposed to cause an emotional impact? Those would be better efficient when not eating your logical reasonsing like shit. Kinda comes across as pathetic.
They’re spying, or let the government spy, because they can sell to the gov expensive software, hardware & everything.
You can run, but there is nowhere you can hide....
Not on nostr certainly...
Yes.
Less spying? Simple, aint it? See, the spying is a false cored social constructs believing life being a versus sport, and how homosexuality has been considered spies of the versus game, like james bond pretending to be straight, and why turing was chemical casteration poster boy.
Life is a not a versus game, but death is.
I read an article on ZH about the SEC spying on US citizens, and it made me think of this note... nostr:nevent1qqsq6m0f306aeph5s7xdndz77gcfr3cwyztnvh67g436mc09j429rtgpzemhxue69uhkwmr0vfskctnjv4kxz7fwwfjkgq3qr0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgsxpqqqqqqzwyumna
And, they spy all your data & slower down your browsing routine...
"Our social media spies on us" Not that nostr is end to end encrypted or anything, free for the whole world to spy on you...
Who still uses plates on their car?
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You need a loicence, plate! (it's a joke)
Check out /r/loicense
