Oddbean new post about login | logout Why everything has to be a conspiracy? The food industry is so evil that the CEOs sat down and hatched a plan how to make us all sick, probably buying stock in drug companies to fix it? This sloppy thinking does not pass through the razors. It is complicated (Occam's razor) and much better explained by stupidity (Hanlon's razor) than malice. People are confused by this, because they see emergent behavior. Yes, everything has sugar, because sugar sells. There's no conspiracy, the companies are selling people what they want. So don't want what is not good for you. I know that it's much more fun to believe that there's an evil with a face and name causing all our troubles rather than saying people demand this and market supplies. People can't agree on a date of a meeting with five people. But world wide conspiracy flourishes, it's kept mostly secret (except of you, right? You're one of the few that know about it, because someone tweeted about it). Conspiracies are for people who want to complain and find whose fault something is. Much better approach for each individual - identify what's good for you and demand it. And don't get fooled by emergent behavior in complex systems. It might feel planned, but it just appears out of trillions of interactions. Yes, it's magic. Soros, Gates and Klaus don't have much more say in it than you do.
Soros, Gates, Klaus funded the opps but I get it. When people have shared interests they don't need to conspire.
This is the most plausible explanation for sure. But that doesn’t mean that there are no conspiracies. Incentives to conspire also occur by emergent behaviour. So does the recently new field of behavioural science, that studies how big groups of people behave to different stimuli. Then there’s the iron law of institutions and the fact that all these powerful people do actually meet up frequently, are obsessed with influencing behaviour and all seem to have aligned incentives to increase the power they already enjoy. So yes, let’s not get fooled by randomness. But let’s not dismiss the fact that conspiracies are also a natural part of
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There are conspiracies. One very famous and well documented is demonetization of silver.
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You must be a WEF agent on a mission to spread anticonspiracies!
True....I'm spotting a growing tendency here, and that's trolls. Could bots be made for NOSTR also?
Few would claim that *everything* is a conspiracy, but when powerful people work together, they inevitably take action without letting everyone know.
Sugar, fat and salt. Hit the right ratio and you have created a powerful drug. The intent is not to make you sick, just hooked. The result is you get sick.
And why would you want to get hooked? You can get hooked on heroin, are you a customer of a heroin dealer? Probably not. There always need to be two sides of a deal. It would be evil if you had to buy their product. But we don't.
Why would a dealer (food) want its customer to get hooked? I never tried heroin. If I did, I’d be probably hooked by now. We are wired to take advantage of (naturally rare) food that packs high amount of sugar/fat/salt. We feast on it as much as we can because it used to be rare. Honey is a good example. As to buying their products… YOU don’t. I don’t (anymore) but what about the other 8 or so billion people on the planet? Imagine I got you hooked to heroin as a kid…
Everyone is responsible for their actions. And every trade has two sides. If I was hooked on heroin as a kid, I would blame my parents more than the dealer. I have even less strict attitude towards food companies. They are offering and I am choosing, I am very picky and I am at the driver's seat of my life. I don't know about other people, maybe they are happy the way there are. If not, it's only them who can change their lives, not even their friends and definitely not the companies.
I’d blame my parents AND the dealer. Even more so when the dealer has access to information proving that what he is doing is harmful to a child. Everyone is responsible. Let me put it this way… congratulations for your judgment and self control. I wish you to look at those who are still lost with compassion.
Somethings aren't deals. It is about Access and Agency. And yes there are concerted efforts to minimize certain access to key information wich would change your perception and M.O. If you don't know a better road. You'll never search for one. And yes it is all about bottemline breaking point management. How many times can you whip a mans back before he starts to fight back.
Equally silly would be to believe that everything is an emergent phenomenon.
Conspiracy literally means that a group of people get together and speak on how to harm others. Con (with) Spire (breath) Your above statement qualifies as conspiracy. The important key factor is that by killing their customers they are not interested in a future with those customers. These companies specifically engineer health and colors to psychology engage their customers with phrases like, "Balance your consumption." Another sign of Conspiracy is ESG. The only financial incentive is for Easy Money from Investors of Large Funds. Otherwise the focus would be on the well being of customers and thus profits.
Exactly! Think conspiracies are just wild theories? Take a closer look at the everyday. The fast food industry has carefully crafted products high in sugars and salts to keep us coming back for more. The tech world has meticulously designed features and interfaces that tap into our psychology to boost screen time—they even wrote books on it. These aren’t just ideas; they’re real-world examples of coordinated efforts. Conspiracies, it turns out, can be hiding in plain sight.
Occult means exactly this. As in Ocular.
Some people have motives to sell us more food or sell our attention. Other people sell healthy food, information on how unhealthy the food is. Some platforms are designed not to grab our attention and sell it. For every force there is a counterforce in the market. Everyone is discovering what works for them. This world view of evil conspirators trying to kill us takes away our responsibility. No one is forcing me to use big social or eat seed oils. They have business plans, I have my plans. It is all more like a bazaar, yet people seem to imply there's a single hierarchy with a plan. Even the big corporations and states compete with each other.
ESG is profit motive - it is pure regulatory capture.
Profit for who? Depopulation and Communism is also a profit motive and a conspiracy against the free market. When a business cuts it's own throat in order to gain favorable status in lending it's not profit.
It does not cut it's own throat. It works the same way as other standards - it is taking out competition. Access to loans is only late addition, although it by itself is enough motive in fiat economy. Getting access to money printer for negative interest rate is worth a lot of money, sure they can hire a few people to write some ESG bullshit paperwork, it's cheaper than whatever they make on interest only. But the real thing is capture of the market. Big corporations enforce this bullshit through network effects. Want to be a supplier to IBM? Sure, show them your ESG project. Want to do consulting for a bank? Oh sorry mate, even though you are single contractor, we can't accept suppliers without ESG. Because we want to keep our ESG certificate too and if we contract with non ESG entities, we lose it. Basically ESG is creating special market with privileged access with cheap credit and cheap competitors out. And they get preferred access to money printed by the state (budget)
Aha! Your last sentence suggest the real truth in that it's not just capitalism. It's fascism -- not the trendy, "I hate you so your fascist.", but the genuine collaboration of state, central bank, NGO and large corporations which is not free market capitalism. This is conspiracy. It's the intention of not only market capture but the elimination of people and their businesses and their wealth. As long as the central bank is involved it is Marxism and fascism shaking penises at the swap meet. The motive isn't profit. It's dominion. Profit is useful for the free market. Dominium is useful for domination, population control and usurping the abilityb of other humans to equily engage in the marketplace. Here the result is graffiti, inferior products, shit services from theb government and slavery the serves a few conspirators. So my question would be, "Where is the line between the extremes?" As the line is the functional part that is organic and merely needs good relationships to operate. This line is not conspiracy, fascism or market capture. It's the natural line of excellence and superior operating entities. It's the Chinese symbol, Chung or the balance of yin and yang. It's the Temple of Solomon (sol + mon which is Sun and Moon). Also known as the Dharma. Conspiracy is outside of the line. It's the intention to sway or disrupt and it always fails after petty victories. Not recognizing the conspiracy is ignorance on the part of those who blindly consume. There is no market capture in inferior products. It's just ego and dominion or masculine energy manipulating feminine energy (or disguised as feminine energy). Here's a great example of fascism: And literally the Fascii is in the room symbolically resting between the ancient sail of the Phoenicians who were masters of sailing, bringing cocaine from Central America, copper from North America and telling wild tales thousands of years ago about sea monsters and a flat Earth. https://www.worldhistory.org/img/r/p/1000x1200/16186.jpg https://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/stories/images/nri/20151021/articles/821E40C3-061A-F05B-64646FA45425ECAD/821E40C3-061A-F05B-64646FA45425ECAD.jpg https://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/stories/images/nri/20151021/articles/81B2E5F4-F6A4-F5C8-6EAAEC0330C7FF87/81B2E5F4-F6A4-F5C8-6EAAEC0330C7FF87.jpg This is from the US National Park Service: https://www.nps.gov/articles/secret-symbol-of-the-lincoln-memorial.htm "The fasces was carried by the lictors, or attendants, and was characterized by an ax head projecting from a bundle of elm or birch rods about 5 feet (1.5 metres) long and tied together with a red strap; it symbolized penal power. When carried inside Rome, the ax was removed (unless the magistrate was a dictator or general celebrating a triumph) as recognition of the right of a Roman citizen to appeal a magistrate’s ruling. The discovery of a miniature iron set of fasces in a 7th-century-bce Etruscan tomb at Vetulonia confirms the traditional view that Rome derived the fasces from the Etruscans. The Roman emperors, beginning with Augustus in 19 bce, had 12 fasces, but, after Domitian (reigned 81–96 ce), they had 24; dictators, 24; consuls, 12; praetors, 6; legates, 5; priests, 1. Lowering of the fasces was a form of salute to a higher official." -- https://www.britannica.com/topic/fasces https://cdn.britannica.com/24/107524-050-DD0AD2D1/Fasces.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2M79KiziS5c/UmDSltAPL_I/AAAAAAAAAwk/z6Up_T_kQ4w/w580-h382-no/MerkelvorUSKongress.jpg Never under estimate conspiracy. It's only a theory projected by government steering operator. Symbolically it is occulted by the masters over the slaves.
Conspiracies ( usually ) are for thoose who seeks explanation, they are directly associated with perception of any issue we cannot resolve in short time period so we need association for better grasp. Is easier to name something as plot than believe something is really what it is or conduct a comprehensive research instead and understand is more complicated that you think and world is a very nasty place and often times confusing.
Often with emergent phenomena, we can't really tell why exactly something happened, in a level of detail. Why did Bitcoin trade at a certain price yesterday? There are many inputs coming to this, but real answer is that supply and demand met at a certain price. Everything else is guesswork and storytelling. There might be some truth to it, but it still only is a tiny thing that influenced the price. The price in this case is the information. That's the output of the inquiry, yet people still seek stories.
Back in the 70s I remember a family friend who was an exec at a national meat co. And when asked why chicken was being injected with water he nearly had a new one ripped by the indignant wives when he said because the public demanded it. It was no sense. Who sat around thinking I really need to ram this carcass with water.
Dear God do you need to watch about 500 Jake Tran videos...
I feel it's very good I have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm talking about an old youtube channel that has spit out hundreds of documentaries on the subject of proven conspiracies. This is a very screwed up world we live in.
Kellog’s conspired to replace meat and eggs with cereal, so people would masturbate less. Rockefeller conspired, bought, shamed and schooled away natural medicine because he found a way to patent drugs from his oil reserves. Reality is not black or white, it’s more complex than we can imagine. But to think there isn’t conspiracies, or to attack those interested in them, is taking the simple way out. ”The only good is knowledge. The only evil is ignorance.”
Yet I don't eat cereals, eat meet and eggs, and I definitely use many natural medicines. Condpirators vs Juraj 0:2
After this comment I lost interest. You can't just project the personal to the whole in this way! Great for you buddy! What about all the victims of these plannend and manipulated events and actions.????? It's like saying: All the world goes to shit. But at least I finished my thesis on Plato's butt jokes.
Trudeau conducts a lot of business behind secret closed door meetings. I dont doubt that hes stupid but what is he doing behind closed doors? Discussing his favorite recipe? Or is he maliciously conspiring against me?
What about all the other meetings behind closed doors. Who wins, whose conspiracy will win? Because of computational irreducibility (Wolfram), we don't know, we have to let everything play out. All the people behind closed doors have their plans, and even that they have a lot of power on paper, we actually have huge leverage. It is super hard to control many (and there are many competing for the control), yet we can easily figure out how not to be controlled.
Truth is in the middleground. Probably most of the times. It is true for example that basically 99% of the doctors in the world will tell you red meat and saturated fats will kill you, and you should instead eat cereals, and that cholesterol, any kind, is also going to kill you dead... how much do you think that influences the daily food choices of average people? I think very. Who trains doctors into spreading such massive bullshit? Who trains the trainers?
But who chooses the doctor? Why would you choose a bad doctor?
I wish that was relevant... again, "bad doctors" are 99% of the doctors out there, and most of them act in "good faith". They truly believe what they preach and would swear by it. Do you think a normal person, someone that has not read Bitcoin Standard, Anatomy of the State, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration just to name a restricted few (that is like saying 99.9% of the people out there) is able to understand zip about anything? Let alone discriminate a "good doctor" from a fiat pawn? But looking on the bright side, we are slowly growing in numbers, there are dozens of us, dozens!!
Why aren't people alkaline in their bodies? We know now how to starve (manage) cancer. Easy answer, there are no economic insensitives to inform people how to change their life styles. The profits in high-carb and sugar foods and subsequent the pharmaceutical treatments needed to fix the decease they cause are just enormous.
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I have a problem with this oversimplified barrage of words. For something that is way more refined and complex. To blame the uninitiated for their erronious interpretations of events. Arising out of chaotic interaction as emergent behaviour or masterfully plannend and manipulated events seamingly being random. I always keep in mind what my father said on the issue: 'The barkeep trust his guests as he does himself' Who can truly understand the manipulation and malice that comes with certain positions of power if oneself has never sat at such tables? Compassion for the ones removing ancient programming from their minds is what is needed. Baby steps and mature conversations. Are needed to guide these just wakening souls. It's a scary world out there. And a group of small and weak people will do horrible things. To stay in power by manipulation and yes Malice! And Looking away from Malice and trying to explain in hypothesis that stupidity and unawareness is to blame. Is in my opinion the true evil intent! And in recent years has been called 'the agent smith effect' anything not to destroy your own worldview. Or to at least contain this form of 'craziness' Just remember how easy it is to suggest something to an individual in the form of hypnosis. And how easy this is on a mass scale with an algorithmic information device in every bodies hands. Or maybe I have read to many coldwar books and declassified documents. .....
Yes, everything is not conspiracies. But to think there are none is pretty ignorant. Emergent systems are fascinating, and the participants are still responsible for their actions. Instead of making immoral choices and claim that "everyone else does it". The people you mention have much greater opportunity to influence the system than others. And they do it behind closed doors. Harmful or unlawful? From Oxford Languages: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
