Oddbean

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 Phoenix is good for a basic Lightning wallet but it doesn’t give you a permanent address for receiving zaps.

Alby is in the process of going self-custodial so they’re not adding many new users at the moment.

Depending on where you live some options for you are:

Custodial:
Strike
Primal
LN.tips bot on Telegram
Stacker.news

Self custodial:
Zeus with a Zeus Pay address 
Mutiny (the latest TestFlight)

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 Is it safe to put my private key into Mutiny to set up a wallet that is automatically connected to my nostr account?

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 (I lean pretty hard to the full nym, self custodial, kyc-free approach whenever possible)

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 It’s a little bit of work because you have to set up Mutiny + and then join a Federation but once you’ve gone through those steps you should be all set. 

@Deleted Account Did I miss anything?

https://blog.mutinywallet.com/mutiny-new-design-people-oriented/

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 How do I identify a high quality federation? Does mutiny have an official/starter kit kind of thing? 

Perhaps a question for you, tony?

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 Yes, the key is only stored locally on your phone.

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 OK thanks - I've listened to a handful of interviews with Tony and Ben on CD & bitcoin.review and they don't seem like type to rug social media account handles lol

And mutiny the wallet is completely open source right? Not that I could review the code but presumably a handful of people here have

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 Yes, @Deleted Account and @benthecarman are here if you run into any trouble. 

Sometimes Tony gets salty with me but you just wanna give the guy a hug when you see him. 🫂

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 Lol sounds great

I'm looking at the "freedom one" federation which looks recommended by tony, Odell, Ben, and a couple of other familiar faces so let's go with that...

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 It also looks like a lightning address is only available to paid users, which I'm definitely gonna do but I would imagine is friction for new nostr users... Or is there another way to send and receive zaps using Mutiny without the paid test flight configuration?

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 Trying to set up Mutiny for self custody lightning and a zappable profile. Am I missing anything? Happy to pay for the service because its already so smooth and sexy, but is this the only way to be a semi-self-sovereign nostr noob?

nostr:nevent1qqsrg3l2qyygerzza79m7jjlrgl3q5jznqdgqc84zdzlcvvjcrrqzscppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzp4le4janp4zjsyasy8pg5fg974stc9j7ss75gftktsm67068hgs4qvzqqqqqqy3ypgrp

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 There is also Zeus. I personally use custodial LN wallets for nostr, don't need to have self custody just for a few sats.

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 That's a fair point. But which one (since Alby isn't taking new users, wallet of satoshi shut down, strike is KYC, and it looks like Primal.net needs me to make another new nostr account) lol

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 I use minibits. https://www.minibits.cash/ it's ecash/LN been working great for me. Before minibits I was using Zeus (self custodial)

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 Not yet, we'll have a free one eventually

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 Gotcha. I just tried to send about 1M SATs from Phoenix tonmynnew mutiny acct via lightning but it hasn't reflected any change. Is it waiting for a channel confirmation? If so, it would be good to indicate that to the user waiting for his funds to arrive ;)

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 FYI – I’m trying to pay the Mutiny+ subscription fee but it can’t find a route.

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 Mutiny node connectivity issues? I feel like it's usually that when multiple users can't connect to a LSP sort of thing... Right?

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 OK, I finally got it working after a bunch of tries and waiting an hour.

Can you shill me a federation?

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 I tried joining Freedom One, but have yet to receive the channel opening payment so I'm feeling less trusty, more verify-y at the moment

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 Where’s the invite code for this? I’m not seeing anything under Discover Federations.

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 There was a button/CTA to join a recommended fed, this was second in the list. What if you go to the settings sidebar and click federations?

Try this invite code

fed11qgqzz8mhwden5te0vejkg6tdd9h8gepwvchxjmm5w4hxgunp9e3k7mf0qyqjpj2ykt73ullqfj58lxjh67y5ed53zm8vvfjvk5h65ufz3a8v2nxky9wuce

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 There we go. Took me a few tries, so there’s definitely some friction to work out in the process, but I finally have a Mutiny+ address!

thedaniel@mutiny.plus
https://image.nostr.build/8548c97926c256ac889d8853dca15903fd58bfde887c1c99a52c79caed822185.gif

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 And once again zapping a mutiny user from alby seems to always be temperamental.

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 Hopefully it went through. Always shows me the orange timer logo here in Damus.

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 Yes, it worked! Zaps from @sudocarlos and @jamw came in, plus a test from my node. 

Once the onboarding flow gets easier, this is going to be one of the best ways to get zapped. Very fucking cool, guys.

🙌⚡️ https://i.nostr.build/6GKMn.jpg

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 Excellent 👍🏼

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 Did it work?

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 Not yet, hopefully this becomes a free feature at some point. I agree, it isn’t very newbie-friendly at this stage.