Oddbean new post about login | logout If nature causes a woman to get pregnant, even if she is raped, then nature/natural law forced that situation. Why execute the baby for the father's crime? And if the mother does not want to raise her child then it can be adopted by someone who wants it.
Men rape women to support the patriarchy that lead until now. Witness the last 5000 years and see what men did to the world. I’m for matriarchy. Women lead now and kindly, I don’t care about your ignorance to what happens to majority of rape victims nor to your ignorance of being adopted. Kindly: educate yourself or remove yourself from my feed. Ima not stupid to fall for that dimension of nonsense again. https://image.nostr.build/a913bf0e258e20995d1aa42df54f8b4669f92a974d70b3f04d610e2af7cac2e3.jpg https://image.nostr.build/103e9b7e8542eab13f9e1aa1d98f0cf469dd2d62ac0ced8aa3db5d304d8515fb.jpg
The majority of rape victims are men though 🤷
Evil gonna evil.
WTF bro..
If a woman gets pregnant, that was caused by nature, right? Pregnancy doesn't always occur. And isn't it unnatural for a woman to murder her own offspring? Even if a woman is raped, I'm sure there have been many cases in human history where the mother kept her child and even loved it and was grateful for it. And probably many where the raped mother gave her child up to others, and perhaps regretted it, and perhaps not. But why punish the child for the sin of it's father?
Generational curses … I You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.” Exodus 20:4-6 ESV
Wrong, it was not caused by nature..
If i shoot you, you die because of nature, right? I see some flaws in your logic..
"If I bomb you and your baby explodes out your belly, it's nature right" Pro lifer logic whilst supporting the deaths of 40k kids is mind boggling to me.
I dont understand what you commenting on 🤔
it's not meant for you - just a general observation of pro-lifers
Neither one of your examples has to do with nature, the shooting of someone or bombing someone. You're trying to make analogies to what the rapist did. What I am saying is the natural part is what a woman's body naturally does after a rape; sometimes she conceives and gets pregnant, and sometimes she doesn't. That part should be left up to nature/God is what I'm saying. We humans shouldn't be deciding who lives or dies, especially not an innocent life. And This is not some arbitrary, man-made law. Do not murder is natural law. Fundamentally, all humans know that murder is wrong.
From my vantage, the choice is naturally the woman's, the question need naturally be answered by the woman. Naturally the woman and her embryo are one, she harms no other with her action concerning herself, and naturally the man that raped her, the thief has no say nor any other. Outside of that let God do something and stop trying to mimic or better put mock God by setting controls into redundancy for others from your understanding of your particularly individual vantage point. Yes, coming from a natural law stand point, it's none of our business. Thanks, much peace enjoy the ride.
Responded elsewhere on this but generational curses exist biblically if people read that … It’s all in who one follows as God so I try to get their sacred book 📕 prior to asking
Yes, who's your daddy? I don't know, can't keep up with all of them and really don't care. I wasn't be condescending, the term "natural," was invoke from the question posed. So I naturally spoke from what's known from that vantage.
See you resort to barbaric condemnation even though you have ZERO idea who I am. 😂😂😂 You’re a bully & not used to others intelligent enough to respond. Or you’re so used to browbeating others who just shut up. Why? Cause you’re annoying & disrespectful AF. You’re just a big hat no cattle 🐮 Never been the woman who takes a beating. Kindly: I fight better than most men anyway. Fax 📠
Do you **not** HEAR the irony below 👇 Then you have the audacity to accuse others of blasphemy. No really: you can debate the Bible without being condescending. Or didn’t you read that in your Bible study. 📖 “ Outside of that let God do something and stop trying to mimic or better put mock God by setting controls into redundancy for others from your understanding of your particularly individual vantage point. “ Yes, coming from a natural law stand point, it's none of our business. Thanks, much peace enjoy the ride.
There's no profanity here (which I never see flagged anyway), so what is hateful or harassment about my opinion? nostr:nevent1qqsttgpyzseyjl7v50nj3l83u28hlkt84lze9vy3swlc622qvqgzaecpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsygrkcud2uwjfruweamz8ewshug5umfq38g9mkmn2u9mk6ajru2w2lgpsgqqqqlqqvn2uav
The label isn’t right, probably should have marked it as “other”.
I'm curious how nos.social uses kind 1984. in the algorithmic feed client I'm developing, kind 1984 is useless because topical user lists provide all the raw data necessary to rank posts. I think kind 1984 can be useful from the relay perspective for programmatically banning users who post despicable content
We use it for content warnings. And Apple requires it for any app in its AppStore. I agree it’s more useful for relay operators. I’m also less sure of the value of a content warning after having done some research in to them. The 1984 events tend to piss off a lot of people, so they’re not having the intended effect of making the Nostr experience healthier.
I'm turning into a list maximalist myself. my vision is that topical user lists can be shared and copied among users and everyone can customize their feed by tuning in or tuning out of various topics
Yeah we need to do more experiments as what we have right now works but isn’t great.
agreed. the number one thing we need right meow is a way for newcomers to see fewer bitcoin posts
Yeah and in general make it much easier to find other kinds of content they are interested in seeing.
I'm focusing on the exclusion side at the moment, but there should be a way to choose topics to see more of as well https://image.nostr.build/79e910cfbcd0735ec5fca472d7f8fc4afb449dcda3cdc6ab764acddded40fb54.png
proof of concept in the works: https://image.nostr.build/bc4209f71578ade0338e7bfa42ca31c64312c5da62b1a506220e4dee02cdadd4.png
Apple is an utter disgrace and the Nostr specifications should never have pandered to its whims. A much better way to report content would absolutely be possible (although not the kind of content which you reported: that was a terrible decision on your part, as there was nothing about that comment which would get it removed under any reasonable policy of any kind). I have given suggestion on this issue myself and might actually work on it in the future, but the current 1984 kind isn't it. (It is, however, the appropriate kind number for its purpose).
don't be a faggot if he hurt your feelings just mute him and move on
I'm curious how nos.social uses kind 1984. in the algorithmic feed client I'm developing, kind 1984 is useless because topical user lists provide all the raw data necessary to rank posts. I think kind 1984 can be useful from the relay perspective for programmatically banning users who post despicable content
We use it for content warnings. And Apple requires it for any app in its AppStore. I agree it’s more useful for relay operators. I’m also less sure of the value of a content warning after having done some research in to them. The 1984 events tend to piss off a lot of people, so they’re not having the intended effect of making the Nostr experience healthier.
I'm turning into a list maximalist myself. my vision is that topical user lists can be shared and copied among users and everyone can customize their feed by tuning in or tuning out of various topics
Yeah we need to do more experiments as what we have right now works but isn’t great.
agreed. the number one thing we need right meow is a way for newcomers to see fewer bitcoin posts
Yeah and in general make it much easier to find other kinds of content they are interested in seeing.
I'm focusing on the exclusion side at the moment, but there should be a way to choose topics to see more of as well https://image.nostr.build/79e910cfbcd0735ec5fca472d7f8fc4afb449dcda3cdc6ab764acddded40fb54.png
proof of concept in the works: https://image.nostr.build/bc4209f71578ade0338e7bfa42ca31c64312c5da62b1a506220e4dee02cdadd4.png
Apple is an utter disgrace and the Nostr specifications should never have pandered to its whims. A much better way to report content would absolutely be possible (although not the kind of content which you reported: that was a terrible decision on your part, as there was nothing about that comment which would get it removed under any reasonable policy of any kind). I have given suggestion on this issue myself and might actually work on it in the future, but the current 1984 kind isn't it. (It is, however, the appropriate kind number for its purpose).
We use it for content warnings. And Apple requires it for any app in its AppStore. I agree it’s more useful for relay operators. I’m also less sure of the value of a content warning after having done some research in to them. The 1984 events tend to piss off a lot of people, so they’re not having the intended effect of making the Nostr experience healthier.
I'm turning into a list maximalist myself. my vision is that topical user lists can be shared and copied among users and everyone can customize their feed by tuning in or tuning out of various topics
Yeah we need to do more experiments as what we have right now works but isn’t great.
agreed. the number one thing we need right meow is a way for newcomers to see fewer bitcoin posts
Yeah and in general make it much easier to find other kinds of content they are interested in seeing.
I'm focusing on the exclusion side at the moment, but there should be a way to choose topics to see more of as well https://image.nostr.build/79e910cfbcd0735ec5fca472d7f8fc4afb449dcda3cdc6ab764acddded40fb54.png
proof of concept in the works: https://image.nostr.build/bc4209f71578ade0338e7bfa42ca31c64312c5da62b1a506220e4dee02cdadd4.png
Apple is an utter disgrace and the Nostr specifications should never have pandered to its whims. A much better way to report content would absolutely be possible (although not the kind of content which you reported: that was a terrible decision on your part, as there was nothing about that comment which would get it removed under any reasonable policy of any kind). I have given suggestion on this issue myself and might actually work on it in the future, but the current 1984 kind isn't it. (It is, however, the appropriate kind number for its purpose).
Yeah we need to do more experiments as what we have right now works but isn’t great.
agreed. the number one thing we need right meow is a way for newcomers to see fewer bitcoin posts
Yeah and in general make it much easier to find other kinds of content they are interested in seeing.
I'm focusing on the exclusion side at the moment, but there should be a way to choose topics to see more of as well https://image.nostr.build/79e910cfbcd0735ec5fca472d7f8fc4afb449dcda3cdc6ab764acddded40fb54.png
This is completely inappropriate. There is no harassment and no profanity in that comment. It is not aggressive and it is stated respectfully with no personal attack towards the OP or anyone else. An opinion you disagree with is not profane and it's not harassment. It's what civil public discourse is about.
Why are some people so bothered by free speech? We see how big of an impact censorship at Twitter had in the 2020 election vs. free speech at X during the 2024 election. I hope that people who used to work at Twitter don't bring those old, anti-speech, anti-liberty ways to #Nostr. That's really not progress. nostr:nevent1qqs9qxpm4pwe8r7alu68u4kwyjum0le4utwlkcm7wa3dcac932rw85cpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchsygywus5sex9jpv5ejyutxgh5vm4zp36kpr6k326neug5j2lekt5ynspsgqqqqqqswkxts7
That Rabble mf is frothing at the mouth for censorship.
> Why are some people so bothered by free speech? To be clear, free speech absolutely would include profanity as well. Yet, reporting profane content as "profane" would be right. I'm not advocating for censoring profanity. I'm not even advocating for reporting it. I'm saying, however, it would be factually accurate. Just expressing a stance on a political issue, however, is neither profane nor harassment. > free speech at X during the 2024 X is not a free speech platform now. Far from it. Elon Musk promised to only censor that which was illegal, but the policies of the platform are not maximally permissive, surely not to the full extent that the law would allow. It's true that many that were censored before no longer are, but that isn't that much of an improvement if other people are censored or shadow-banned instead. Of course, X wouldn't be censorship-resistant regardless (like Nostr is), but that is a higher threshold than just being a free speech platform: a criterion which Reddit arguably used to meet (but, clearly, no longer does) and which platforms like Minds arguably meet today (within the constraints of US law, because they do have to follow the law of their country).
My theory is that they want to slowly impose an hegemony of civil law and disrupt the "social intercourse" so we can fight between ourselves without remorse
What do you mean by "hegemony of civil law" in this context?
Civil law, as parallel (maybe opposed) to natural law, by Saint Thomas Aquinas https://mises.org/mises-wire/catholic-theologians-prostitution-should-be-legal
That lefty purple hair guy appears to have a lot of influence over nostr's development. I predict bad stuff. He also appears to have deleted his comment, unless I'm just slow in loading everything on my end.
it's not just an opinion it's an accusation firstly that men who have sex with the speaker are rapists, because they don't seem to mention anything about sex WITH consent and social security is a ponzi scheme, and is already running out of money, and if it's for a woman who is single with children... are you so sure she didn't get pregnant by a "rapist" to have a child so she could get money to not spend on actually raising this child, and put them into the sausage factory called The Department of Education to be miseducated and barely able to do math by the time they finish?
How about you worry about your own body? So what if they want to kill the embryo? So what? Better than 2000lb bunker buster bombs on schools and hospitals or are you okay with THAT kind of abortion?
That Rabble mf is frothing at the mouth for censorship.
Well, Trump isn't favorable to freedom of expression either. He wants flag burning to be punished. But, in the US, flag desecration is recognized as part of the constitutional right to freedom of expression. In my own country (Italy) flag desecration is, indeed, illegal. That is a defect in our laws, an unacceptable restriction to freedom of expression which shouldn't exist in any free country. Italy (and many other country) should imitate the US in this, not the other way around, and those who advocate for censorship shouldn't be regarded as if they were upholding free speech. https://www.thefire.org/news/trumps-proposed-constitutional-amendment-banning-flag-burning-would-have-unintended
My theory is that they want to slowly impose an hegemony of civil law and disrupt the "social intercourse" so we can fight between ourselves without remorse
What do you mean by "hegemony of civil law" in this context?
Civil law, as parallel (maybe opposed) to natural law, by Saint Thomas Aquinas https://mises.org/mises-wire/catholic-theologians-prostitution-should-be-legal
What do you mean by "hegemony of civil law" in this context?
Civil law, as parallel (maybe opposed) to natural law, by Saint Thomas Aquinas https://mises.org/mises-wire/catholic-theologians-prostitution-should-be-legal
Civil law, as parallel (maybe opposed) to natural law, by Saint Thomas Aquinas https://mises.org/mises-wire/catholic-theologians-prostitution-should-be-legal
it's not just an opinion it's an accusation firstly that men who have sex with the speaker are rapists, because they don't seem to mention anything about sex WITH consent and social security is a ponzi scheme, and is already running out of money, and if it's for a woman who is single with children... are you so sure she didn't get pregnant by a "rapist" to have a child so she could get money to not spend on actually raising this child, and put them into the sausage factory called The Department of Education to be miseducated and barely able to do math by the time they finish?
How about you worry about your own body? So what if they want to kill the embryo? So what? Better than 2000lb bunker buster bombs on schools and hospitals or are you okay with THAT kind of abortion?
How about you worry about your own body? So what if they want to kill the embryo? So what? Better than 2000lb bunker buster bombs on schools and hospitals or are you okay with THAT kind of abortion?
