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 Here is my case if you want to hear:
- I opened a Mutiny wallet. There is 0 balance. 
- I don’t have enough money inside Wallet of Satoshi (<100.000sats). 
- I send some satoshi to my Mutiny via on-chain.
- I swapped them to lightning.
- I try to recieve money from wallet of satoshi still gives the not enough money error.
- I transfered some satoshis to Wallet of Satoshi. Now the balance in WoS is greater than 140.000.
- I transferred back them to Mutiny. It left around 40.000 sats in WoS and transferred rest to Mutiny.
- when I try to transfer what I have in WoS to Mutiny, it gives the error: I need to open a channel this is not enough etc…
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At this point I understand this lightning stuff is still over my head even though I write software in Python and stuff so not a clueless guy in when it comes to computer. Anyhow I guess we’re still early :))  
 We understand this scenario and we try to describe it in the post above.  
 Thanks for the answer. I also understood some of it but not the part the 40k left (39.999 to be exact) in the WoS account. That was strange for me and still didn’t get it. But at least after that transaction I had some  both in my inbound and outbound liquidity. Anyhow like I said I think I’m over my head now. Thanks for the good product and effort. Everyday it makes it clear for all of us how it is important to spend yime and effort for this stuff. @ODELL , @Deleted Account  , @MartyBent are usually vocal about this aspect and it is sometimes easy to ignore when you found yourself a comfort zone. But as they say Freedom is not easy and it needs to be fought for continuously. 
 Wallet still needs a lot of work.  Expensive and I felt like I lost a ton of sats and to intimidated to keep using this wallet as I feel like it is a constant sat eating machine.  No thanks.