Oddbean

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 i do not think it is stealing or cheating.

But If we say, yes its stealing and so we wont do it, then i wont start the business in the first place. There is no incentive to do so.

If an agreement was between two deer, would that be ok? Is this really about difference in power?

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 Yes as i said, even if you don't want to steal, the system works this way. Guys all the top economists of the west, tried to debunk the theorem for decades for a reason. There is literally a ton of books and other critics on the subject. All of them failed so far. Half of the planet tried in the past to switch to socialism because of this. Have a look...

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 ok. I wasn't arguing on this point, just asking a follow up. I also want to understand the thinking that leads to this. Because it doesn't make sense to me.

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 I see. The best is to look the theorem itself and the proof that accompanies it. In a nutshell, there is a surplus value created by the production procedure, and that whole surplus value ends up only in the pocket of the business owner. I hope that i am not confusing you, i am not really good on explaining things.