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 They've been trying to demonize gun companies for decades... 

 Well then obviously The Fucking State is in cahoots with Big Road since nearly every damn robbery allows the thieves to escape on infrastructure built with public money.

Logic isn't with these people, and tonrub it in even fucking further, endless amounts of OUR money pays these folks to further ensure that we have no other OPTIONS. 

 How many were convicted to be sentenced to prison? 

 gun manufacturers get held liable all the time.

my employer got held liable to the tune of $600,000 for something a customer did in their own home.

gun manufacturers bad, home heating oil companies bad, software developers bad.

its  a Maoist cultural revolution. 

 There are videos online, they laser the code into the knife when someone buys it.

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 That is wild. 

 Probably  

 this administration, and prolly the next, seem to hold code creators to a diff standard, unfortunately.  seems to be that this admin has some Wyrmtongues pushing that agenda while king theodan withers away at the throne. i also dont think juries have the ability to see the nuance in cyber law compared to other easy to relate to real world examples, unfortunately.  

 The knife worked exactly as intended. 

 The American way, regulate it out if existence 

 Sounds about right 

 Agencies will not hunt down devs of projects that don't give true anonymity or that can be deanonymized giving their users only the illusion of anonymity. 
They probably already have ways to deanonymize Tor and Bitcoin users. So no need to hunt those devs down. 

 When innovation is criminalized, only criminals will innovate?

Trouble is, everything's outlawed enough that everyone is committing crimes, and the crooked cops in charge selectively enforce the unjust laws simply to suit their current whims.

The world needs to clean house and starve the beasts. 

 what happens when he gets out of jail in 64 months, do they put them back in jail due to tornado cash having run and operated for the tenure of his prison sentence? is each subsequent use of the creation by a person on earth a new crime? are you just a criminal in perpetuity for creating software, publishing it, and then a future person uses that software in a way that a govt doesnt like? 

 “They are trying to make the normal seem abnormal and the abnormal normal.”

This applies across the spectrum, pun intended. 

The first step to Marxism, is to redefine the words to manipulate people’s perceptions. 

 WE ALL NEED TO FIGHT IT, EVERYONE IN IT'S CAPABILITY.

You can be a no-one and helping the discussion on any social platforms with some expressing your contrary opinion, or with a meme, or maybe you are an advocate and you could start to move on different layers, or maybe you are a well connected and powerful individual and you can achieve more platforms for discussion and appeal to more people and figure that are in the laws making process..

Everyone need to do his part and take off those cockroaches that are trying their best to shut down privacy and personal sovereignty and freedom 🫡✊🍀🫂💜 

 Gov should be help responsible for criminal activity when fiat money is involved 

 You know … The Federal Reserve and the US Federal Government ought to be found guilty of money forgery and aiding and abetting of forgery. This is only possible in a convention of states, however.

The system is fundamentally flawed such that forgery is a necessary part of it. 

 oh don't give them more justification to put in CDBCs. that's where they're trying to head with this 

 I don't think there's any difference, but I'm not a lawyer. 
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 The State only slightly minds if harm befalls its citizenry.

The State cares deeply if its authority is undermined. 

 Here is how a lawyer without open source spirit might  look at it  :-)  

Open Source code  is free  - thus it is a partner in the any tool built on it or usage there of ! Notwithstanding the terms of self issued licence(s) which states no warranty or support , by virtue of it being free ,  it is a party because ownership didn't transfer through a financial transaction ..

A car is fully paid , and so is a camera - thus the manufacturer is absolved of any further usage by new owner .. ownership is legally transferred. 

 open source means there's no owner to begin with. we can all be owners since it doesn't belong to anyone.  

 That is what you feel (me too ) but in the eyes of law , there is no such thing as "belongs to everyone" unless it is water or air and that too I am not so sure of now a days  (land definitely not)  ..  

anything man made has an owner  - home , car .. if your asset is involved in breach of law - you are on the hook  . That however doesn't mean you are guilty  - you just need to prove your innocence  -  the burden of proof still on you  .. which is a bigger punishment IMHO ..  

 If someone else used my car to committ a crime with it, I am not liable for the crime. 

 Unless there is a connection 

 No one is liable till proven guilty  but you will be implicated .. and the burden of proof shifts to you that you didn't give your car as an accomplice  .. that is the reason you must file a stolen report as soon as you realize you car (or another asset ) is stolen ...  

 There is never a burden to prove innocence. There is the state's burden to prove guilty beyond reasonable doubt.  

 https://www.quora.com/If-someone-steals-your-car-then-commits-a-crime-with-it-are-you-accountable-for-the-crime 

 anonymous algos are new tech. 
law needs to keep up with it. 
how does one refute the need to hold those responsible?
just accept you can get away with crime?
answer is govt needs to respond, with this cat and mouse game. 
if someone sets up a gun ready for assassination of JFK, and a passerby finds it, pulls trigger, does the person who set that up remain innocent? 

 Yup. It's pretty crazy. 
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 Because it’s different when it affects and hurts THE BANKING CARTEL. 

 This is true 

 imagine tcp/ip devs are now responsible for ALL online crimes🤣 

 Good. There was no crime before this bloody internet thing. 

 I think the unspoken idea here is that privacy itself is seen as a crime. Cars have legitimate uses, but in their minds you have no right to evade financial surveillance. 

 They are wrong though, because that's 4th amendment unreasonable search and seizure. They are violating the law of the land. They are illegitimate. 

 Never seen cars being distributed free though :-)  or Cameras  or even physical books  - soft books yes but you cant throw them on anyone to cause a hurt :-) Free porn was always under eyes and is in many jurisdictions - but it got lax now for there are bigger issues  of money .. 

 that's the point =]

they'll be coming for all those things, too. data is power. information assyrmetry. they get to know everything about you and you get to know nothing. you can't make any moves and they can predict all of yours and your reactions to anything they may want to threaten to bribe you with 

 Please don't tempt the courts and lawmakers to take stances like these, they just might do it, unironically. 

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 That's next