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 They think we are a meme away or a decentralized protocol away from finally defeating the government and living in a libertarian fantasy world where people don’t initiate violence and everyone is high IQ and moral.

That’s never gonna happen of course, so we gotta engage with politics if we want to win. OPs would be like “save yourself” “no one is coming to save you” nah I don’t want to just save myself, I want to wield political power to make my community, city, and country great. Because if we don’t someone else will nostr:note1afxwcwaz84m4y0cptvgavql9qf55s4seyupht876p7s7vzzwj6ts57ygs6 
 Most never work local … hence why the world is this way. Spoke on this many times. It does work.  
 Get your knee pads ready. Nobody gets political power without selling their soul and getting completely turned out by the machine. 
 Thankfully we have Trump and others willing to take one (literally) for the team. 
 Sounds like a major political fantasy. Trump is a known liar and grifter, billionaire socialite elite (and shitcoiner 😂😂) who has tricked a bunch of desperate and delusional people. Hope you can claw your way out of the matrix. 
 You seem to be misunderstanding the political play and the expectations people like myself have of Trump, and that’s ok. GN 
 Maybe you’re just bad at articulating yourself. 
 Maybe you have reading comprehension deficiencies 
 I could tear apart your shitty writing / thinking but I don’t care. Good luck with those lame political aspirations and pinning your hopes on professional liars. I’ll be focused on things I can control and providing value. 
 Like I said, you misunderstand people’s expectations and are missing what’s to be gained. Yes, please do that 🙏🏼 
 You really do suck at communicating though. Saying absolutely nothing substantive over and over. You really should be a politician! 
 Trump derangement syndrome is hard to overcome bro we get it 
 Totally 
 Very disagree on this: Statism is based on lies and propaganda, so it can't survive the Information Age. If we say that mass adoption of the internet was around 2010, we can say that humanity got forced fed information for 100% by the government it's entire history until just 14 years ago.

Since 14 years humans can talk to each other at scale and the government propaganda systems (mainstream media and public education) are collapsing. Think about how much the overton window has shifted in just 14 years, heavily accelerated over the last 4 years.

I think you are stuck in recency bias and can't imagine a drastically changing world. Better open your eyes: Mainstream media is dying, fiat is dying and libertarianism is growing exponentially. Even in erea's with a socialist culture like Europe. 

The renaissance proved to us that society can massively change through technology and the internet (+#Bitcoin and #Nostr) will be magnitudes more influential than the printing press. We are literally living renaissance 2.0. Imagine living through the renaissance and licking the boots of your oppressor instead of printing books. That's you if you vote!

What do you think  @HODL? 
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Government has only gotten bigger over the last 14 years, so idk what you’re talking about. This is why people don’t take libertarians seriously and why they don’t have any political power. 
 Obviously there is a delayed reaction, knowledge won't instantly change things. There is a good case to be made that Covid was peak statism. The long term downtrend in interest rates broke (harder for govs to fund themselves), the unipolar world became multipolar and 'mis-and disinformation became a thing (signals loss of control over propaganda). 

You take me (as a libertarian) seriously, because you answer me, and political power isn't relevant if people don't believe in politics anymore (where we are heading).

I wish you good luck through the Information Age, because it's going to be hard time if you can't see the changes. And in the mean time, VOTE HARDER! Because decennia of voting brought you here! 
 Kill the inner orange piller . Or it’s going to get worse for you 
 Not only a strawman, a very tired and unoriginal one. If you cannot understand the ethical reasons to stay away from politics, at least understand that it is a waste of your time and resources. Best you can do for yourself and your loved ones is to separate and protect yourself as much as you can from the whole sordid mess. 
 Is it tho? You must be new here and haven’t seen all the retarded “politics don’t matter” takes.

I can walk and chew gum, something the ops can’t manage 
 Wondering about spooks in Trump’s camp is not a retarded take, considering how he got rolled by Pompeo and the rest in his first administration. 
 I never said that. I guess the straw man argument complaint was just projection 
 Based