Oddbean new post about login | logout >I also suspect most people aren't nostr-only ... I think there are more reasons. Because nostr doesn't give them enough stimulation high they need from other algo platforms that can be more predictable. Proud to say I've never used twatter but I can imagine the desire, that and most other big-tech platforms. They leave because the overlords do something they don't like but quickly forget when things over here don't stimulate their addiction enough. That and the whole what are the odds it'll be me that gets banned or whatever risk vs. reward cycle. I'm also a very light social user, maybe like 30 mins/day besides chatting with our team.
I think the 'people use twitter because they're addicted' can be a bit disingenuous, people on twitter also have meaningful interactions with people, there are communities there etc etc... (you know the things nostr aspires to). I'm not saying that the addiction / ragebait thing doesn't also exist, but that's not the whole picture.
> Because nostr doesn't give them enough stimulation high they need from other algo platforms that can be more predictable. I still stand firm on this however. The term addiction disregards there are social positive interactions that result in more stimulation. Yeah I think twitter probably has plenty of positive real world social capacity and germination. I don't mean to assume it's all unhealthy. I was a Facebook communities person, I made almost exclusively real-world connections personally and professionally. I'm arguing over the lack of commitment because of convenience, the urge to fall back to old habits when things "calm down". The people you mention are also likely not the people I'm targeting. Because the same could be said for why I'm here anyway.
I've never used Twitter either. Unless, you include clicking on links from nkstr posts to be using it. Also, I think it's a matter of ignorance, as well. Heavy centralized social media users may take a trip to nostr only to subconsciously refuse to acknowledge the realization that they don't need social media to be as big a part of their everyday lives as they imagined. It's sad, tbh. Nostr needs to have an abundance of clients in all markets if it wants to succeed.
The best thing about nostr is that it has probably made more people leave social media entirely
Those are my feels, lately. I like our eReader idea, but I'm increasingly aware of the fact that I suck at social media. It's a whole thing. Rule one of social media: always agree with whatever the richest man in the room is saying. Rule two of social media: always agree with whatever the second-richest man in the room is saying, unless it contradicts the first man.
Rule three: don't write snarky things like that. They don't like that. 😅
But that's pretty much all I do and I have a lot of fun!
They can all go flux theirselves if they don’t like us. Truly.
I've been told I'm not agreeable enough. Other girls are nicer. 🙄
I still use the Fediverse loads, never been into X or whatever. I keep going with this as technologically it’s interesting but those that have even heard of Nostr see it as right wing. I can only assume that means there’s more 0s than 1s in the code. I just want to be loved… lol
Fair enough, yeah. I rely on follows to share other fun pleb things so I can see whats going on out there. I remember looking at some of the other popular platforms after the whole Parlor thing and was like wow this is just bad. I'm sure they were overloaded with attack bot accounts to make it look worse than it was, but almost every reply to a post contained at least one racial slur. Now I'm a degenerate who can appreciate edgy stuff so it was kind of funny at first, but it was too much to want to be around. It was hard for the first few months to get a good follow list, but now I'm pretty happy although I'm sure I'm missing some fun stuff on occasion. It can be really overwhelming for new users.
one of the most interesting things about nostr is it makes a BIG difference to your experience who you follow that's why i only have like 108 or so... they give me a second level reach into other things that are interesting but too noisy or don't interest me often but when my follows respond to them they tend to be interesting
Yeah I'd like to get there too! Also I'm glad to be one of your 108 follows :) I should probably go for some pruning, I know I'm missing a lot of dev discussion I should be part of.
yeah, i think without any more devious methods of filtering stuff the best one is to pick good people to put replies into your feed and then if the replies are interesting they lead you to maybe something interesting, more often than not... i think my philosophy of nostr following is more respectful... helps me keep stuff out that would make me mad and gives me enough to keep it interesting enough i'm still overdoing it
Not always, imo. Sometimes posting a note or comment is just a means of gathering information. It's that simple. I've observed many Nostr users who display this kind of behavior; and they're usually accounts with a relatively smaller follower count. The people who come here for the social aspect seem less active since I showed up nearly three months ago (yes, only three months). I think it's obvious that many are growing way too bored too quickly and are realizing that they don't need social media as much as they originally believed. That's a win, imo. Many are rediscovering the value of face-to-face interaction. Also, I've seen plenty of people say that nostr has no algorithm, yet, they fail to realize that they've all played a hand in making the "nostr algo." Nostr algo = block and ridicule anyone who notices and publicly calls out imperfections within both Bitcoin and the nostr protocol clients... and then whine about it. The topic of a person's reasoning behind their social media usage is evidently far more nuanced than I had originally believed. So my opinion may seem somewhat erroneous, but my personal belief is that nostr isn't a "good social media" (as I don't believe there is a truly good one) it's just the least worst. What Nostr DOES have the potential to be is the next INTERNET. That NEEDS to be the focus. nostr:nprofile1qqsfeg9aw3g8gtt2yqcecr3af3nee8syd2wuwr5w74wzjp0zgpfrgzcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsler5rm's opinion. nostr:nevent1qqsq40n2x2qtgyeznaw6mnqcupegeppqasxwx0rrl4fjppj9swx98wqprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7q3qnjst6azswskk5gp3ns8r6nr8nj0qg65acu8gaa2u9yz7yszjxs9sxpqqqqqqzqdz2w8
They didn't leave social media. They just went to other platforms, or they mostly post elsewhere and just dip in here, sporadically. A lot probably even went back to X.
i guess it all comes down to how we define things — i still wonder how nostr will be defined; it's often presented as a social media. is that right? maybe it's not? or is it simply a form of communication, i.e. the internet? isn't communication the basis of social interaction? these questions become much too abstract for me lol anyway, thank you for the detailed and thoughtful response, as always~! ^^
They didn't leave social media. They just went to other platforms, or they mostly post elsewhere and just dip in here, sporadically. A lot probably even went back to X.
i guess it all comes down to how we define things — i still wonder how nostr will be defined; it's often presented as a social media. is that right? maybe it's not? or is it simply a form of communication, i.e. the internet? isn't communication the basis of social interaction? these questions become much too abstract for me lol anyway, thank you for the detailed and thoughtful response, as always~! ^^