But should the easy solution be. 

If I see a note, and I quote it, the client should rebroadcast that not with my quote? Isn’t that just a thousand times simpler?

It doesn’t solve everything, but gets rid of some issues. 

 Thoughts on this @Vitor Pamplona ? 

 We already do that. :) others should do too.  

 Yeah, but clearly the client @fiatjaf is using isn’t. lol now I I’m curious what he’s using? 

 *cough cough* nostr registries *cough cough* @Laeserin *cough* *cough* 

first as an answer to centralized nips repository. Next as an answer to trusted relay operators and developers. Close will be our answer to DNS. Thoughts @Vitor Pamplona?

https://wikifreedia.xyz/nip-event-register/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl 

 I am on board. We just need to keep moving on the right direction.  

 Can't wait for clients to run on notes. 

 I see you @keet dont tweet.
This is what i'm referring to
https://github.com/vitorpamplona/nostr-web-server/tree/main 

 Find better ones how exactly?
Is there a central trust list? 

 thats exactly what we're trying to move away from 

 Gotta do your research. Find each of your relay's operators, read their privacy policies and terms and conditions. You need to know who you are "in business with" and what they are and are not doing with your data. Don't delegate that due diligence to anyone else. 

And always remember, if it's free, you are the product. 

 This is not easy for non tech people.  

 We have to make it easy. Or we are not building anything new.  

 I love that you separated the relays into sections, is it possible to have a drop-down menu I relays that work in each section, that we can choose from and research or have a star system?  

 Yep that would be awesome to have.  

 If you connect to a relay, that relay knows you connected (your IP address) and what questions you asked.  This is EXACTLY like a web browser.  Everytime you go to a website, that website knows you connected (your IP address) and what questions you asked (the URL).

People who insist on hiding their IP address use VPNs or Tor.  This works perfectly well with nostr just like it works for the world wide web.

Trying to avoid connecting to some relays just makes nostr dysfunctional. This problem is outside of nostr, and nostr clients are just making the problem much more complicated than it needs to be by coding connect-based relay access control lists.  Just tell the user to use a VPN or Tor if they are concerned about privacy.

As for AUTH, that makes more sense to me. You shouldn't just AUTH to a random relay. But fetch a note... I don't see what the big deal is. 

 Agree on Tor and on Auth. But we don't have a good/easy solution for Tor yet. Most people just use their regular connections on the go. So, I see as a massive privacy risk.  

 Does reading from a relay and not writing to it offer any changes in privacy? 

 It depends on which filters you send and if you have to auth or not. We just have way too many filters bundled in one subscription to risk. Gotta redesign that part of the code :( 

 This is another * use case for proxy relays like filter.nostr.wine which can implement inbox/outbox without leaking your IP to untrusted relays

* the others being performance and spam filtering

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 how does one build trust with a relay? does each relay have an about page that is accessible in a consistent way?

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