Oddbean

@c713ed05 @a6ff0b2b: along with computational photography, @3d174fcc’s brief question about RAW/48MP photos *is* also something to consider when taking “2x” photos. if you’re not taking the full 48 from the beginning, there’s no way to recover the pixels in the center of the image of a 12MP photo!

@0616686e Like I said, it’s unrelated. No matter how the sensor pixels are or aren’t grouped during capture, the advantage of capturing zoomed-in over capturing at 1x and cropping later is solely related to the multiple frames available to combine during capture when processing the zoomed image that are NOT available later when cropping a captured 1x image yourself.

@a6ff0b2b @0616686e That’s not true - if the phone throws away 75% of the pixels (by binning down to 12MP at 1x zoom), those *also* can’t be recovered later. There are two orthogonal concerns, but they point the same direction: if you capture at 1x and crop after, you both: a) lose the processing the phone does with the multiple frames and b) lose the unbinned full resolution. For the purpose of exposure / amount of light being captured it doesn’t matter, but it *does* lower the resolution.

@a6ff0b2b @7ea45c89 precisely — i think we’re all saying the same thing here — i just wanted to point out that the wording you used might have been a little confusing, since both concerns do matter (as Matt points out), but that you only care about the unrecoverable frames.

@0616686e @a6ff0b2b @7ea45c89 Yeah, I was hoping that Marco was going to continue with his thought, as that was also what popped into my head. The 2x camera on the 14 Pro isn’t a digital zoom, it’s a 12MP crop of the 48MP sensor. If you aren’t shooting Pro Raw (is there another mode available to get the full 48MP?), doing your crop after the fact will leave you with substantially less than 12MP.

@a6ff0b2b @0616686e You can, but only as long as you’re capturing proRAW and have specifically enabled it - @3d174fcc actually asked the relevant question in the section of the ATP show we’re all referencing (whether you always take photos in 48MP proRAW), but it didn’t get addressed.