I appreciate your response, i just think if you had an extended dialogue with @SeedSigner he might have a different opinion about whether using a secure element is “additive”. It was invoking this argument that to me felt like a lack of steelmanning the Seedsigner perspective. 

Even with coldcard you’re probably storing an unencrypted analog seed phrase backup somewhere right? Steel plate or otherwise, so the argument that having seedQR laying around as a point of insecurity doesn’t feel fully thought through IMO. 

As a tool, Seedsigner offers a unique FOSS DIY solution that can play an integral role in many highly thoughtful approaches to cold storage. I won’t casually accept framing that the project is somehow lesser than coldcard (as implied by your statement that secure element is “additive”) when in fact many would disagree with this framing. 

Love you bud 

 It's all tradeoffs. SE comes with a lot of unacknowledged, ongoing trust in the company implementing and distributing devices that incorporate one (or more) SEs. I feel as though there is frequently a lot of nuance lost in these discussions that end up favoring the inherent marketing of SEs being "secure". I admittedly have a unique, less common perspective given my personal experiences. Both of you have made significant & valued contributions to SeedSigner over time, in different ways, so I havr nothing but love and appreciation for you both.