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 Honestly everyone but Trump here is pretty solid on a lot of things.

As far as people who have comparable fame, who would you rather see on the list? nostr:note1rhn82fq74ws0gc4yecdgwxhxgfh7j42tsfax36skldnu485dacjstfccey 
 none of them personally run a node. bitcoin does not care 
 actual developers instead of talking heads and politicians. 
 I just noticed snoweden. Probably the only one I would keep on that list but meh.  
 100%. The only one I recognize as a real one 
 I liked this until you said “meh” about Snowden. That mother fucker is a legend and risked his life and freedom to tell the world a million things that we would’ve spent decades guessing about and being called lunatics. We owe him a fucking insane amount of gratitude. Hard disagree. 
 Oh, I wasn't saying meh about Snowden. I could see how that could be misconstrued. 

The meh was mostly because the rest of the people on the list are...not really relevant besides Cathie Wood at least to me. I could care less what Politicians think about Bitcoin. I'm not gonna vote for them anyways. I haven't really listened to a lot of brand personally because I kind of find him annoying, but that's just personal taste.

 
 I don't really know who I would have on that primary stage though. It's just kind of wild to me to see a bunch of Bitcoiners who are supposedly trying to fight the state snuggle up to and simp for politicians. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯   
 Ok that makes more sense. I mean from a purely “what awesome things do they have to say about Bitcoin perspective” they are mostly so-so, but I think it’s more about having tons of people who hear how it’s that #Bitcoin is deeply attached to tons of ideas and perspectives that they hear all the time. As much as it feels “watered down” for people who are deep in it, I think it’s a super important part of getting people to “get it.”

I think a lot of people discount that understanding or opening up to bitcoin requires *many* touch points. Having people like this discuss how it’s important to issues they cover is a big touch point for a huge number of people. I know it’s fun to complain, but I think it’s a lot more valuable to others who don’t have our perspective than people realize. 
 I guess when you frame it like that, that's completely fair. When you're already balls deep in the Bitcoin then seeing shit like this is a little bit disheartening but More people will hopefully "get it" when they see their favorite politicians or influencers talking about it. I guess 
 lol

Bitcoin2024 conference is like “just the tip” for all the bitcoin virgins or those who just started playing the bitcoin game. But long time bitcoiners get annoyed because we’re already balls deep and have both been boning super hard and then got raped through a couple of cycles and who the hell gives a shit about this amateur hour after that? 🤣🤣 
 I thought the ETF would be a gamechanger. People think Trump will change the game.
The thing about Bitcoin is nobody changes the game. 
 Well they do have a bunch of developers, but this is literally just the most well known people and it’s not the conference for in depth developer discussions, this is for a far more general interest audience.

I have my own complaints about some of their choices and it often feels shitcoin tangential, but I don’t know what issue everyone has with just generically well known people. Also Snowden is a legend and Russell Brand is fantastic, listen to him all the time. 
 Bitcoiners (Saylor and Snowden excluded, maybe Cathie too) 
 I like Russell Brand a lot, he’s solid on a ton of issues. 
 I’m not saying the others are bad people necessarily, just that they aren’t first and foremost Bitcoiners. Brand is an entertainer and the others are politicians. 
 Yeah but the Bitcoin conf is literally the most general audience conference there is. Thats their target. Is to get people interested to want to come learn more and meet big names. 

Makes sense to me, just don’t expect some in depth cypherpunk discussions, detailed technical dev work, etc. 

B24 is like the Bud Light of Bitcoin 😆 
 Fair enough, good analogy 🤣

I don’t really care one way or another, and don’t get me wrong it’s excited that high profile people are getting into Bitcoin. I just think that we should hold these people to a high standard in order to get a platform at the biggest Bitcoin event.

It’s obviously completely out of my control. 
 Exciting* ☠️ 
 Trump is pretty damn solid.

Worked hard to secure the border despite constant attacks from the left

Reduced taxes 

Ended wars with a period of unprecedented peace, the Abraham accords

Many other notable accomplishments. 
 Trump is a doofus, believes tariffs are good, did the exact opposite of “drain the swamp,” and fully endorsed Fauci and all the absolute horror and embarrassment of 2020.

Imo, The only good thing about Trump is that the establishment hates him and he *might* pardon Ross Ulbricht. 
 The swamp literally tried to kill him on July 13th.. must be doin something right. 
 Tarrifs are good. If you Google it, it'll tell you otherwise though. Dive deeper. 
 If you learn basic economics you will find they are absolutely not. Tariffs are consumer taxes. 
 Unfortunately, it isn't basic. 
 Trump is running on reciprocal trade.. meaning if another nation applies tarrifs to our exports he will respond in kind.  It's true that this can potentially raise prices but it may be the correct move geopolitically.

Watch him go full strategic bitcoin stockpile and remove capital gains on selling or using your bitcoin. 
 No idea how it is people don't understand this.  
 There is an exception IMO.

In a perfect libertarian country when a foreign state heavily subsidies an industry so they can sell their products at a loss in your country, that can be seeing as an attack, and tariffs must be set in place specifically to that product only. 

Can be happening in the EV sector, China subsidizing really hard directly to the manufacturers, but the US is also doing it indirectly with the subsidies to the consumer. 
 Warp speed and record high money printing were notable indeed 
 One of these things is not like the others 
 IYKYK 
 Who ? Why not just say instead of being cryptic. This could mean any of them lol 
 Oh come on, this should be obvious 😆 
 The woman? 
 Snowden 
 What is the next level of mainstream? 
 But did anyone think Bitcoin2024 was not going to be the most generic version of bitcoin though? I literally never expected it to be anything other than that 😆 
 The real bitcoin entrepreneurs out there - The larger their company is able to adopt bitcoiners globally, the more famous they would be. 

Everything else is just distraction 

 
 Sometimes I wonder if you people actually want "hyperbitcoinization" or not. Life doesn't look exactly the way you want it too. Learn to enjoy the trip a little  
 Why's that?  
 Brand, RFK, Vivek and Trump I'd rather be replaced, for they are secretly anti-BTC. 
 Politicians and bitcoin, no good combination 
 If hawk tuah girl shows up, we’ve made it to the big leagues 
 🤣 She does the Keynote 
 I could see her hitting up nashville... seems like she fits in 
 If @TheGuySwann gets a pic with her it’s an easy 21k sats for him 
 She can rate who gets a solid hawk tuah... 

 
 Isn’t she from Nashville? 
 She sure looks like she might as well be... (Said in a Tennessee accent) 
 Michael Taylor and Co are solid? Come on ... 
 I don't know but I'd get rid of Russell Brand for a start 💀