Oddbean new post about login | logout If we can't have honest, divergent opinions about the state of Nostr without people being abject assholes about it, then my bearishness will 100% prove true. Being able to openly discuss issues with each other without purely strawman, insulting replies is vital to the success of any project like this, even more so because its success relies on social networks. Read through the replies to this and enjoy a healthy response to criticism 😅 nostr:note1ygx5q3waycfxk9gswrghhfpjkr4r6mlkkekvyhdgep0we0pzuaqs4f5j8g
NostrBros are super annoying. I’ve stopped listening to a lot of Bitcoin podcast because it’s just Nostr Nostr Nostr.
The way you feel about a protocol has absolutely no correlation with the outcome of said protocol. People are going to use it because it doesn’t have monetization through attention-seeking incentives. People are going to use it because it allows for integrated apps that can leverage the social graph with no walled gardens. And all of this will be true regardless of how people feel about their interactions with posts or comment sections because it’s likely that people continue to understand that the majority of opinions aren’t worth reading or taking into consideration to begin with.
It would be an honest discussion if you had started it on nostr. By engaging on twitter, you've pretty much picked your audience and its replies. If you seek the truth, you need to confront people head on, not cowarding out in a closed platform.
Just wait a bit longer. You seeing what they're trying to pass into law in the EU? It can (and likely will) get a boat load worse before it gets better. And it will only get better if there's an unstoppable alternative. The printing press, bitcoin, nostr... All a long line of attack and defence of personal freedoms. Pretty short sighted to be bsarish IMHO.
This reply is the rebuttal. The jokes and the laughs are the rebuttal. The fact that we use it and we're deleting our other social media accounts in favor of it is the rebuttal. This place is a one way door for those who need it. And more and more people will find need for Nostr as centralized services squeeze them for more, and more, and more. Nostr is the Schelling point for online social graphs.
Here’s what you’re missing: there are people who are crazy enough to never go back to using a company controlled social media platform. There will always be shit posters of last resort. I’m 100% certain that if it dies out, it won’t be because people trust Twitter again. Either something significantly better will be created, or Nostr will continue to succeed for people who understand its value.
..short time preference is on display
classic blue check move to make it all about _how_ the criticism was made matt made a simple observation about the irony of you complaining about nostr engagement given your lack of X engagement if you have a genuine useful argument to make about nostr engagement then make it
note10qdue4dfy9uc0xxuh94rg8yx747l363s3qg3zn5hzw2zxewq7u8q8lu9s0 So I thought I would also throw my hat into the ring in the debate here. I do disagree on my expected outcome of Nostr but that's more my interpretations of where/what I expect to be in the future. Things like limited discoverability (no algorithms), a broad list of clients - many incomplete, and the need to filter out spam or curate is going to be any decentralized social media protocol's burden to bear. They can be improved, and criticizing them is valid, but that's kinda what I signed up for when I chose to enter the wild west of any non-centralized platform. Things like data and processing power requirements handled by clients are still considerably under streaming HD video, so I can get they're inefficient but I feel like in the world of our bloated web it's not really noticeable in most cases. The IP thing is a fair point, but it sort of is what it is. You can proxy your IP, but anywhere you go on the internet it'll be available to any server you're communicating with. Somebody shares a link in a twitter DM and they got your IP same as if the DM you an image on Nostr. Honestly Nostr users are probably safer than the average Twitter user from that sort of stuff because we're all at least somewhat tech savvy. Which brings me to what I think is the biggest hurdle for Nostr. I can't see 'raw' Nostr getting popular with your average Joe, period. Key pairs and user chosen servers are a bit to far beyond the fray of what you can expect somebody to familiarize themselves with. I can pretty much guarantee 99% of the world will never know what a Nostr relay is. That said, with it's openness I can imagine it has a chance to continue to grow. It's already the case now, but especially when Ditto (by Soapbox/Alex Gleason) is finished we can be a part of the activity pub network, and if AT is ever opened up I'm sure we'll be a part of that too. Throw in content like RSS piped in, and that solves the problem of a lack of content and allows us to both simultaneously be in our own little corner and chatting with 'normies' on threads as if we were also a threads user at the same time. Not to mention there's always a chance to have a "Threads" on Nostr, something that has a easy to join interface that hides private keys and such, but still allows users to interact with other Nostr users. TLDR: I'm personally bullish on Nostr because it's very interwoven with the decentralized/federated space as a whole and doesn't need to take over the world to succeed IMO. Sorry for the very long post. Basically summarized a previous blog post of mine and wanted to get my whole philosophy on it condensed.
I mean, a lot of these people come from Twitter and people being dicks is a staple of the Twitter experience. That said, maybe some more comf heavier opt in moderated relays will have a product market fit.
Make sure you checo out my dope meme-age when you are checking out seths quote . nostr:nevent1qqsg97g9khp3tc4e2uyna0vg8fy9x280dra55ht8n67xd4l5ysft7ngpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygqunhxcl5kjlwre6mcz6mx9dth06a9fv79wfpp5krcdu73ps5hhqspsgqqqqqqst57acu
Also I showed mercy , I want that entered into the record: nostr:nevent1qqsv24d5j9965kdl9trzujv2jmu83rdy2249jccxf8gqx4ckm7w4l6spzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygqunhxcl5kjlwre6mcz6mx9dth06a9fv79wfpp5krcdu73ps5hhqspsgqqqqqqsjprt00
