Oddbean new post about login | logout If setting up a relay is too much work, Nostr will never work. We might as well just keep using a centralized Twitter, because nostr won't be much different. We have to figure out a way anyone can do.
I very much agree with your first statement. But... Just using nostr as a Twitter clone shouldn't need a server to run a relay. (And I don't think relays should be on phones, generally, since it has a pretty bad effect on battery and network performance in my understanding.)
A free & easy experience should be subpar to some degree, and everything else should be enticing enough to either learn it, pay for it, or both. The old paradigm needs to be replaced. The local relay hasn't been a bad ux from my experience. I had a few quirks at first, nothing unexpected though. It's only gping to improve from here too.
I don't think it should be sub-par. Limited, maybe, but not confusing, convoluted, and poorly documented.
At the rate of innovation, those things are inevitable until something resembling "what works" can emerge. I'm kind of glad there's a shortage of documentation at the moment, because most of what does exist is already outdated. Old information is worse than a lack of information sometimes😅
You don't have to have it on your phone. You _can_ have it on your phone. You could also just put the data someplace semiprivate, like our project team relay, or run a relay on your PC. Nostr without relays really is just another Twitter.
Well, I think I get that idea now, but, it's a big ask for normies, I think.
We're still early days. It'll all be quite seamless. Even the phone relay setup could just be a button you press in your client, or it could auto-setup, when you install a client. That's probably where Damus and Amethyst will be or are. Users actually can't differentiate a client from a server, if you make the interface very smooth.
Most people have multiple servers running on every device and don't even notice.
Won't having as many relays as users cause a problem that people need to be subscribed to an almost infinite number of relays?
Only the relays your follows use.
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